70 Monte -Clean w/ Protecto Plate

[69LM1]

Gotta move it out, bought another project (a 73 z-28). 2 owner 70 Monte Carlo. Great sat nite cruiser. Blue/Blue. All Original. Never had the engine "hot rodded". Bench seat. Just tuned it up and she runs perfect. I found the original owners manual and the PROTECTO PLATE in the glove box!
(wow, how many of those still hanging around!)
When I was tuning it up/cleaning the engine bay, I also found a 70 retro magnetic "hidden" key holder, and yes, it had a set of working keys in it.
Body:
Nice body w newer paint job, good for a driver/weekend cruiser. Next to no rust (two small quarter sized spots on each fender, under chrome trim, fixed).
Interior:
All original interior, all in excellent shape. 1 4" rip on drivers side seat. Headliner near perfect. Needs the vinyl top put back on, but I have all of the original chrome.
Engine:
350/350 (300hp?, thats what the air cleaner said) Virgin. 77k miles. Still even has the factory stickers! Runs great. Heater core was disconnected when I bought it, I would assume that it leaks. AC is all there and hooked up. Air only blows cool. Very clean and complete engine compartment (still has the smog tube attached to the air cleaner). Hubcaps, but I have a set of rally's that I can throw in.
All in all, a VERY original unmolested monte, that would make a great weekend cruiser, or with very little effort, a great original showcar.

3500.00 FIRM, sorry no trades.
Thought I would list it here before ebay.

Near New Orleans, LA

Contact Rich for more details at:
504-913-3618

Will post some pics tomarrow (monday) evening
www.nois.net/monte.html (http://www.nois.net/monte.html)

[Mr70]

I've gotta ask this.
Would it by chance have a button in the turn signal stalk,similar to Cruise control,but actually RPO CD-3 Electro-Tip Windshield Wiper Delay?

[WILMASBOYL78]

Only you would ask that question!!!...

wilma http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[69LM1]

Nope. Just a regular turn signal. Were these 350's actually 300hp cars? With a 2 barrell? This is a clean low mile car. I just got a 73 z-28, so the monte's a goner!
Rich

[Bill Pritchard]

Rich,

300hp 350 had a 4 barrel QJet, not a 2 barrel. Check the stamped code on the block to find out the true identity of the engine.

I can tell you a thing or two about 73 Z28's if you have any questions.

[olredalert]

-------I believe that the two-barrel 350 was rated 255BHP, but it might have been 250..........Bill S

[69LM1]

The tag was kind of ratty on the cover. I'll have to look again later as well as check the engine codes. I bought the monte as a cruiser while I was restoring the gold 69 LM1, just something to play with in the mean time. Then I came across the 73Z, for a few dollars more. It is not a numbers matching car, but for the price I figured I can always get my money back. The auction number is: 4527239905
The interior is ugly, and it needs a few things, but overall not to bad. I know the rear spoiler is incorrect for 73, but I really like the short spoilers better than the large ones anyway.

Rich

[MosportGreen66]

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-------I believe that the two-barrel 350 was rated 255BHP, but it might have been 250..........Bill S

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In 1970 the L-65 was rated at 250 hp, 1969 was 255

[Kurt S]

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In 1970 the L-65 was rated at 250 hp, 1969 was 255

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Nope. In 69, the L65 was 250 hp. The LM1 was 255.
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[69LM1]

OK,
The engine code/Suffix looks like
V0319CRE, which is according to www.chevy-camaro.com (http://www.chevy-camaro.com/chevy-camaro-chevy-engine-suffix-codes.asp?group=2)
is a 350/300 horse car, but it also shows a 4 barrel application for that code.
Here is what is unusual, it is a 2 barrel air cleaner, and I am sure that it had a 350/300hp sticker on it? I guess the only rational explanation is that the intake was changed sometime in the past?

Where were the build sheets in Monte Carlo's (if they are regularly found?)

Rich

[DaveC68]

I've found them in the springs under the front bucket seat as well as behind the seat back "shell" of the bucket seat.
(I know your's is a bench, maybe in the springs under the bench seat too)
But I've almost always found them in the springs of the bottom half of the rear seat.

[69LM1]

No VIN on the pad and it is to dark to get under the car and look by the oil filter tonight (to make sure that it is a matching numbers engine). The intake has a casting number of 8288752, but I do not know where to look for the date code. I have attached a pic of the intake/carb.




Rich

[SuperNovaSS]

Isn't the engine code on the POP?

[69LM1]

I don't know squat about the monte's. I just think they look better than the chevelle's (alright, all you chevelle guys don't start sendimg me hate PM's!). My mechanic has a 70 monte with a 402, 12 bolt, buckets and a shifter and it is cooool.
Anyways, here is the trim tag info:

ST 70 13857 FL 2199313 BDY
TR 767 25 A PNT
03D

The 03D I get as 4th week in March, but that and the body number and paint is as far as I can tell.

Rich

[69LM1]

Here's a shot of the actual car.

[MosportGreen66]

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In 1970 the L-65 was rated at 250 hp, 1969 was 255

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Nope. In 69, the L65 was 250 hp. The LM1 was 255.
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What he said! (Thanks! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif)

[69LM1]

Whoops, just realized you said POP and not TT:
Here is an attached pic of the POP and typed out:

138570F131237 R
V0319CRE CCH0112B 3
VOC18N 1 3 3 ?
A. WILSON 5/28/70
(ADDRESS DELETED BY ME)
COLO. SPG. COLO


So, any ideas guys?

Also, anywhere that I can decode that intake (casting 8288752)

Rich

[Mr70]

"I just think they look better then the Chevelle's"
THAT"S IT! http://www.ic-musicmedia.com/forum/images/smiles/boxing.gif
I'll help ya decipher Chevrolets version of the econo LA-Z-Boy.

Flint Plant
Code 767 is a Blue Cloth Bench.
Code 25 Astro Blue
Code A is White Vinyl top

Your M/C came with a March 19th CRE L48 350/300HP 4bbl
250HP was a 2 bbl.

The Particulars:
R is a Rochester Carb
CCH is a 2:73 Posi built Jan 12th-Buffalo

"V" is actually the letter "Y" for a Cleveland TH350
O is 1970
C March
18th day
N Night shift

March built car
Options:
Power Steering/Power Brakes/AM Radio
Who was the selling Dealership?

That intake I consider not correct,as it should be a 4bbl.Part#3965577.
I can't find the Intake number you posted for it in any Chevy books here.
The Key Holder is RPO-UIDIOT http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[COPO PETE]

I just pulled the back seat out of mine a couple of weeks ago, and it had a perfect one behind the back of the back seat. Also found one on top of the gas tank, although it had seen better days!
Peter

[69LM1]

RPO=UIDIOT
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It even has in bright chrome lettering
"Magnetic Key Case" embossed on the top. I guess that's for the slower theives, leads them right to it.

Not to beat a dead horse, just trying to figure out why the 2bbl air cleaner (all stock appearing, to include the smog tube) had the 350/300 sticker?

Car was sold at:
Williams Chevrolet
230 Academy Blvd
Colorodo Springs, CO
to:
Agnes Williams, the proverbial little old lady!

Rich

[DaveC68]

Car was also built at the Flint plant...so correct me if I'm wrong, on Flint cars you will not find a build sheet more often than not.
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Not to beat a dead horse, just trying to figure out why the 2bbl air cleaner (all stock appearing, to include the smog tube) had the 350/300 sticker?


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Hey, possibly when someone swapped out the 4 bbl intake for the 2, that lid just had a better shine!!

[DaveC68]

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I don't know squat about the monte's. I just think they look better than the chevelle's

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AMEN Brother! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

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[budnate]

I beleive Dave is correct the tops are the same size and they left that on the car....

[69LM1]

Yes. Like I said, my mechanic has a 70 monte with the 402(396) with the 12 bolt rear, buckets, console shifter and the tach in the gauge cluster. In the Monte world this is not considered anything special. Apparently they only had one "special" car, and that was the SS454. His car is very nice and he uses it as a daily driver (but I am sure that sucks a whole lotta gas!).
The monte's just seem to have, I don't know, Character. They are still relativly inexpensive, kind of like the cougar to the mustang. You can still get a 68 cougar GT 390 car for under 8,000.00, but try and get a Mach1 mustang for that price!
(Not that I am comparing the Monte's to the Chevelle's, I guess the Monte's were more luxary cars and the Chevelle's more of a muscle car).

Rich
Rich

[GM-26]

Dave, Your "Champagne Gold" Monte Carlo is really nice. It looks very similiar to a "Triple Gold" one that I once owned. In 1994, I purchased mine from a 72 year old women, who owned it for 24 years. In the spring of 1970, her nephew drove this car to her house to have lunch with her. He was a new car salesman and it was a "demo". She fell in love with it and it was sold to her. I promised the women that I would return to her house after I restored the car. Six months later, I went to her house. She came outside and tears rolled down her face. She was so happy to see her "Goldie" looking like new again. It was a great moment. After owning it for more than eight years, I ended up selling the car to a local hardcore drag racer. The car is now "tubbed", "caged" and has a 800 horsepower big block in it. The car went from being 100% stock to a rear bumper scraping monster! I sold the car to purchase a 1979 Camaro Z28 that was in my neighborhood since new and that I always wanted to own. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif
Nick....

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[GM-26]

Sorry about the sidetrack!
Somebody buy Rich's Monte Carlo!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

[69LM1]

"Somebody buy Rich's Monte Carlo!!"
Hey Thanks. But this is a pretty interesting thread. You guys rock with being able to decode any GM TT or POP (even non GM tags!)

Bowing as "Were not worthy, Were not worthy"
(Mike Meyers)

Rich

[DaveC68]

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In the Monte world this is not considered anything special. Apparently they only had one "special" car, and that was the SS454.

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Rich,
I'd like to think there is one other "special" Monte.
My gold one (pictured) is a factory big block 4 speed, tach dash and buckets. The real kicker is that it had all that and fender skirts too http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif
around 600 made in 70

[DaveC68]

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Nice car Nick http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[GM-26]

Thanks Dave. My Monte Carlo also had quarter panel shirts! During the restoration I chose not to put them back on.
They are still in my garage.- Nick...

[SS427]

Dave,
If I understand correctly, the Gold (pictured) Monte Carlo is a BB with 4-speed. In looking at the pictures, it appears to be an SS454 based on the fender enblem, dual exhaust and possible horizontal rubber rear bumper strip (can't tell for sure). At any rate, what you are saying is that car has the 4-speed? I would love to hear more about it. It is a well known fact that you could get a 402 4-speed Monte but I have never been able to find a real SS454 4-speed car which is really odd as you would think it would be a natural. Tell us more. (sorry to rob the thread) http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
Rick

[DaveC68]

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Dave,
If I understand correctly, the Gold (pictured) Monte Carlo is a BB with 4-speed. In looking at the pictures, it appears to be an SS454 based on the fender enblem, dual exhaust and possible horizontal rubber rear bumper strip (can't tell for sure). At any rate, what you are saying is that car has the 4-speed? I would love to hear more about it. It is a well known fact that you could get a 402 4-speed Monte but I have never been able to find a real SS454 4-speed car which is really odd as you would think it would be a natural. Tell us more. (sorry to rob the thread) http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
Rick

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Yep, its a 402 4 speed, (or to make it more confusing what chevy called the 400 4 bbl, as opposed to the 400 2 bl which was the small block) No, there are no emblems on the rockers.
it has the rear bumper guards, the horizontal strip you refer to was standard issue on the 71 SS454 Monte only.
To my knowledge a documented 454 4 speed Monte has yet to surface. From my research into the GM resto package and copies of dealer order froms the only possible way to get a 454 4speed was in 1971, and it could only be had by ordering the ls-6 454 (I've never seen/heard of a documented one of those manual or automatic for that matter)
Take a look at the attached shipping doc found under the back seat.

[Belair62]

That is pretty cool ! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[69LM1]

Wow, a 4 speed. Does it have a bench or console/buckets?

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Rich

[DaveC68]

buckets and console.

[John]

..looks like he is saying.....
..."C'mon Dad....gimme the keys...gimme the keys!"
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[69LM1]

HHHHmmmmmm, maybe I'll sell the 73 Z-28 and keep the monte! Just joking. The Z is a 4 speed.
Rich

[JoeG]

Really http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif combo -Monte/402BB/ 4sp/console---------- http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[olredalert]

-------I also had a 71 Monte with four speed and big block. Also a 402/400/396. It was blue/black gut/white top. Optioned pretty much the same as the Autumn Gold one. I sold it with 5500 original miles in about 1980/81 while still living in Chicago. The guy said he was going to drive it, and I almost backed out of the deal as it was one of the nicest original cars I ever had. Has anyone around Chicago seen or heard of this car?.........Bill S

[JoeG]

Did you drive it at all?---------

[DaveC68]

71 was even more rare with only @250 402 4 speeds made. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[scott s]

WHILE WERE ON MONTE,S IAM PARTING A ALL ORIG 70 OUT IF ANYONE NEEDS PARTS?? 12 BOLT DISCS ETC THANKS.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Lino]

olredalert.............. the blue, big block ,four speed with white top, low mile Monte belonged to a neighbor of mine in the early eighties. He indeed used it as a daily driver, then sold it to his son. It went through the Volo car auction a number of years back and sold as the highest priced Monte to date. A man from McHenry Illinois bought it and still had it for a number of years . I lost track of it after that.

[olredalert]

-----Thanks, Lino,
-----At least it sounds as if it was well taken care of if it brought that much moola!!!!!..........Bill S