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Z28DZ
03-02-2005, 02:49 AM
From Team Camaro

http://www.camaros.net/forum/ultimatebb.php/topic/26/42.html


joe69rs
Tech Team


posted 03-01-2005 12:31 PM
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Yesterday I had the luxury of spending the day with an old friend of mine. I brought my beater Hyundai to his shop to weld up SEVEN cracks in the frame. She's a fine example of what not to do while engineering an automobile. Well anyway my friend used to be a mechanic for Baldwin Motion back in the glory days and we had some really cool conversation that I figure I would share with you. If you don't want to listen to my rambling just go to the last paragraph.

My friend told me he was selling his Motion Vega Wagon (which by the way is unbelieveably cool) and he had a guy from New Jersey come by his house to check it out. The guy was asking if he had any documentation on the car and Eric (my friend) looked at him like he was crazy. I guess the fact that he worked at Motion Performance and has owned this thing close to forever, the last thing he cared about was paperwork. So he brought the guy up to the attic of his house and dug out stuff he saved from working at Motion and the guy went bananas like he was in a museum. Taking pictures of stuff like one of Eric's old Motion time cards from 1976 and old Motion Books that had pictures of his car in it. From there he starting telling me about his days working at Motion. He talked about how he regretted selling his old L89 Camaro and his buddy Lenny who sold his 1967 Z/28 in the 80's for $12,500. He even mentioned working on one of the two ZL1 Corvettes at Motion . I didn't believe it at first but what stuck in my head was he said a carpenter bought it for his daughter to drive. Then I found this link this morning (http://www.corvettes-for-sale.com/spots/jan00/spot.htm) and in the article it says a guy named Wayne Walker bought the car from a cabinet maker for $6000. I couldn't believe it. I've known this guy since I was 18 and here is giving me a history lesson! He just kept spitting out stuff like this for like 4 hours. It was better than sitting down and reading a good book.

Now to the main topic. Eric has what he believes to be one of 50 COPO Novas ordered by Fred Gibb in 1968. The car is white with a 396/375, TH400, 12 Bolt, column shift, no emblems and dog dish hubcaps. He's looking to get paperwork to verify the car is what he thinks it is. He spoke to somebody who told him to write to Detroit but he doesn't know who? Has anybody been down this route and can provide some direction?

Joe

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Kim_Howie
03-02-2005, 03:16 AM
The Gibb Nova's were blue ,green ,red and turq. No white cars. All had bucket seats and all were floor shift.Find out the VIN# and the code on the engine and trans. Kim Howie http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

resto4u
03-12-2005, 12:15 AM
What is the build date on the cowl tag?

WILMASBOYL78
03-12-2005, 03:26 AM
Could be one of the 48 L-34 TH400 cars built in 68. If it has a Turbohydramatic shift pattern on the dash then that would seal the deal! They made a total of 98 cars with the TH400. 50 375hp(all console cars) that went to Gibb and 48 L-34 sold to others. Saw one at the mini-nats in fl last week. Check the thread for photos. Post some photos and info please!!

wilma

Kim_Howie
03-13-2005, 05:53 PM
Tom That is why I was asking about the motor and trans tag. Cuold a 350 HP Car. Very Rare. Kim

WILMASBOYL78
03-13-2005, 08:10 PM
Sounds like it could be one of those cars. Haven't seen any additional info posted.

68's..the rare breed! tom http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

joe69rs
04-06-2005, 04:02 AM
Hey Guys,

I'm the guy who posted that thread on camaros.net. Somebody from this site sent me a list of all 50 Gibb Nova VIN's and this car wasn't one of them. I knew right off the bat because the car had a 6 cylinder VIN number. It started off 11327. This car was never restored and looks like a factory big block car. It has the big block heater core in it and used to have the big block radiator with the curved neck. This radiator is no longer in the car because it was replaced for an aluminum radiator, although the owner still has it in his possession. Here is the Trim Tag information maybe somebody can decifer something from it?

07D B
ST 68-11427 WRN102070 BODY
TR 737 C-G? PAINT

Maybe that C-G is a C-0?

Does anybody know of any Nova's that were built with big blocks that had 6 cylinder VINs?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Joe

joe69rs
04-06-2005, 04:06 AM
http://hobbystage.net/camaro/1969rallysport/1112742221-006194.jpg

joe69rs
04-06-2005, 04:07 AM
http://hobbystage.net/camaro/1969rallysport/1112742222-006196.jpg

joe69rs
04-06-2005, 04:42 AM
http://hobbystage.net/camaro/1969rallysport/1112742221-006190.jpg

joe69rs
04-06-2005, 04:44 AM
http://hobbystage.net/camaro/1969rallysport/1112742222-006198.jpg

joe69rs
04-06-2005, 04:47 AM
http://hobbystage.net/camaro/1969rallysport/1112742221-006193.jpg

joe69rs
04-06-2005, 04:48 AM
http://hobbystage.net/camaro/1969rallysport/1112742222-006197.jpg

joe69rs
04-06-2005, 04:49 AM
http://hobbystage.net/camaro/1969rallysport/1112742221-006192.jpg

Chevy454
04-06-2005, 04:49 AM
Is that a P-R-N-D-L for a Powerglide (2-speed)? If so, then your buddy's car wasn't a big block...

Nova Research Project
04-06-2005, 07:15 AM
[ QUOTE ]
07D B
ST 68-11427 WRN102070 BODY
TR 737 C-G? PAINT


[/ QUOTE ]

Decodes to
07D = 4th week of July 1968
B = Blue interior paint
68 = 1968 Model year
11427 = 2 door Chevy II (does not indicate engine size)
102070 = Fisher Body number 102070
737 = Standard Dark Blue cloth bench seat
C = Ermine White
G = Ash Gold

Probably C-C

It is probably a 6 cylinder car that has been converted.

Is there any chance the original engine and i/p wiring harness still has the parnumber and 2 letter code tags?

Greg

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
04-06-2005, 04:30 PM
The rad hold-down bracket is still the 6cyl version. The trans indicator is a powerslide. It was a 6 banger when new, and converted to a bb.

Mr70
04-06-2005, 05:09 PM
It could be one of the Gibb 50,is there a red dab on it's dash mounted Ignition switch? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif