Torq Thrusts or Cragars?

[DarrenX33]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/dagcostello/TorqThrusts.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/dagcostello/Cragars.jpg

[DarrenX33]

In case anyone is wondering this is photoshop work not 2 different pictures. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Thanks for the votes thus far. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[427TJ]

I can't vote--they both look great.

TT's: 15x6 front, 15x8 back. Paint spokes silver. (Anything but the gray factory paint.)

S/S's: 15x4 front with L78 tires. 15x8 rear with Pos-A-Traction Torque Twister L50's. Oh yeah, you can't get those anymore. Rats!

You have a tough decision all right! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[DarrenX33]

Torq thrusts are winning so far. Your right it is a tough decision. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[camarojoe]

I vote for option C. Rally Wheels and Wide Tread GTs. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Mr. T]

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I vote for option C. Rally Wheels and Wide Tread GTs. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

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[JChlupsa]

Dare to be different. 1/2 and 1/2 TT's on passenger side and SS's on Drivers side. Can only see one side of the car at a time anyway http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[larry_csa]

Mr Hawaiian: This is going to sound dumb, BUTT arround about 1968 we useto run split sets of wheels. I ran Keystones on the front and cragers on the back. Don't ask me why it just something we did. Neet ,cool whatever.
Larry

[JChlupsa]

People still do split the front and backs.

[DarrenX33]

Oh boy, It's all going down hill now.

Joe the rallys aren't going anywhere. Just wanted to do something different. Plus I think a set of mags will look nice doing down the track. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

[Mr70]

Wait...I placed a vote for which wheel to Not use,not which looks better. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[DarrenX33]

There is one in every crowd. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[Salvatore]

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I vote for option C. Rally Wheels and Wide Tread GTs. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[/ QUOTE ] Just put a set of repro F70's on the front Goodyear (RWL) and a vintage almost NOS set of L60 Goodyear GT's (RWL) on the rear. Mounted them on rally wheels. Joe they look great. Good idea you had! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[copojoe]

Torque thrust's!!! I have then on my 69 COPO Clone. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

[DarrenX33]

Hey come on! I want a set of wheels that will look good when I am blasting the Yes Album out the windows. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Zedder]

Both look good Darren, but if you go with the Cragars, you need to turn the white letters in and show the blackwalls http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[camarojoe]

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Oh boy, It's all going down hill now.

Joe the rallys aren't going anywhere. Just wanted to do something different. Plus I think a set of mags will look nice doing down the track. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

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I agree a set of torq thrust mags would look cool, but not a set of "out of the box" ones from Summit Racing. Find a set of vintage 5 spokes with the "old school" spoke and lip design, and forget the BFG's. Bias-ply is the only way to fly! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[copojoe]

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Oh boy, It's all going down hill now.

Joe the rallys aren't going anywhere. Just wanted to do something different. Plus I think a set of mags will look nice doing down the track. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

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I agree a set of torq thrust mags would look cool, but not a set of "out of the box" ones from Summit Racing. Find a set of vintage 5 spokes with the "old school" spoke and lip design, and forget the BFG's. Bias-ply is the only way to fly! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

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True but those are pretty hard to find. I wanted them and could not find any good one worth trying to restore. Maybe i was looking in the wrong places. I bought the new American racing ones. They still look good! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[hvychev]

Darren dare to be even more different! Get some Ansen Slots! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Yeah, Yeah I know that is too radical for most here. If I were gonna choose between the two I would say for sure go with the Cragers. I would bet that more cars actually ran with them back in the day vs. the TT's.

Oh yeah!! Joey is right.....DO NOT put them BFG's back on that car if you are doin' a wheel swap! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

[camarojoe]

Frankie would put Cragars on his wife's Camry if they made the proper adapters.

[JChlupsa]

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Hey come on! I want a set of wheels that will look good when I am blasting the Yes Album out the windows. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

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Isnt it a bit hard getting a turn-table to play without skipping driving down the road, let alone having to drag along a long extension cord to keep it powered up http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[hvychev]

LOL http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

Joey please don't hate just because I love Cragers! You love TT's just as much! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif A never ending battle between you and I! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[camarojoe]

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True but those are pretty hard to find...

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But thats what makes em' cool! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[hvychev]

D, Joey was right! I love the Cragers so much that I bought them for pops 2001 Camaro SS! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[427TJ]

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Darren dare to be even more different! Get some Ansen Slots! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Yeah! Slot mags! I hadn't thought of that. Yep, surf eBay for a few weeks and score some big-n-little slots. I'm still thinking 4-inch fronts and 8-inch rears. Bias plys all around. Suddenly it's 1975!

[DarrenX33]

I have to get some prints of some slides. This car had slots on it when we bought it.

[Salvatore]

Darren ole boy, Be crazy like me and have at LEAST 3 different tire and wheel combos. No matter what they say the tried and true Cragar SS is #1 on the list. Then the TT's, Slots, and Rallys. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

[Chris396]

If you put the Torque Thrusts on paint the centers and they will look much better. How about Minilites? I think they look great too and you never see them.

[Xplantdad]

I think the TT's look awesomely http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif on the car! Leave them the way they are...less hassle with cleaning, too!

Make sure you post some more pictures of your car, once you get the engine back together!

[DarrenX33]

Torq Thrusts pulling away. Unless we have people from Florida voting to. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Salvatore]

Shows ya how much they know! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[DarrenX33]

You want to argue on this tread to? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Salvatore]

Don't you want me to? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Postsedan]

Darren,

I agree with Joe Barr...The TT`s will win this pole. Thanks to Darren and Sam I will have a complete set at my door step next week. You guys ROCK!

Dan.

[Born30YrsLate]

Is there a write-in space for slots on the ballot...if not, I'll vote slots...still

[427TJ]

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Darren ole boy, Be crazy like me and have at LEAST 3 different tire and wheel combos.

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THAT'S IT! Why settle for one set??? Pure genious! One set of each. With Rallys too that's four sets. Slots, Cragars, TTs, and Rallys. The possibilities are endless. How about 15x3.5 and 8.5 Centerlines too for a Car Craft Street Machine Nationals 1980 look?

Stop the vote. Your decision has been made.

[DarrenX33]

Ok now to set up the donation link. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Xplantdad]

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How about 15x3.5 and 8.5 Centerlines too for a Car Craft Street Machine Nationals 1980 look?


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Umm, Bill...those would have to be Polished Centerlines! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Salvatore]

Well guys, We have to nurse Darren a little slower than normal. He is starting to catch on though. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Did tell me he was going to put a powerglide in his Z just to race Marlin!

[427TJ]

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Umm, Bill...those would have to be Polished Centerlines!

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I was thinking the standard satin finish. Okay, so one set satin and one set polished makes (One, two, three, four...) uhhh, SIX sets of wheels. Darren, you need to borrow against your house buddy. One, to buy the wheels, and two, to build an addition on your garage to store them.

Can't wait to see pictures!

Maybe Belair can set up a Pay Pal link for your wheel fund. I'm in for a buck. Okay, TWO bucks. If all 2,000-plus members pony up you'll be in wheels in no time.

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[hvychev]

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Did tell me he was going to put a powerglide in his Z just to race Marlin!


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Hey Marlin is too easy! Go for someone faster! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

(just a little $hit talking for SCR8 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif)

[DarrenX33]

Indeed go for someone faster.

[Stefano]

You can get authentic looking TT's, as well as other styles directly from American Racing, they are called TTO's as opposed to TTD's (Torque Thrust Originals).

www.americanracing.com (http://www.americanracing.com)

[Mr. T]

WOW, the TT's really kicked some A$$!!

[Salvatore]

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You can get authentic looking TT's, as well as other styles directly from American Racing, they are called TTO's as opposed to TTD's (Torque Thrust Originals).They are very nice wheels. I am getting a set myself. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

www.americanracing.com (http://www.americanracing.com)

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[skierkaj]

I'm not a real torqe thrust fan, but they just look better than the cragars on that particular car. Maybe if the Camaro was a different color, I would've voted different, but who knows.

[Supercar_Kid]

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You can get authentic looking TT's, as well as other styles directly from American Racing, they are called TTO's as opposed to TTD's (Torque Thrust Originals).

www.americanracing.com (http://www.americanracing.com)

[/ QUOTE ]True, TTO's are slightly more vintage looking than the TTD's, but are hardly a convincing replica of a true 1960's manufactured American Torq Thrust. The TTO's have the much larger center cap and center opening to clear the larger wheel bearings and grease caps of newer vehicles. They also use taper seat lug nuts much like a steel wheel, and not the mag shank/washer type that the true 60's wheels used. They're pretty much like any other modern reproduction of a "vintage" part, somewhat close to the original but hardly convincing to someone who knows what they're looking at. They also only come in 15x5" and 15x7" sizes, and on a 1st gen Camaro 5" is too narrow and 7" is too wide. 15x6" is what Yenko got from Atlas, and the only size that looks right on a Camaro IMO. Keep searching ebay and digging at the swap meets guys, they're out there, just not always a phone call away.

[tom406]

The biggest problem (aside from some folks old/repro visual aesthetic)is the backspacing on the 7" rims. The TTD's and I think the S/S's both give up 1/2" of backspacing to the original Rallys (3-3/4" vs 4-1/4"). This almost guarantees contact on the fronts, even with 215/65/15's.

If authentic Day-2-ism isn't your absolute goal, I like the Torq Thrust CL205's (TTII's with painted centers) so that you can pick your backspacing (4-1/4 to 4-1/2"), or my personal favorite, Vintage Wheel Works' V40 (straight) or V45 (D spoke) 16x8" cast Torq Thrust style wheels. They have 4-1/2" backspacing and with 245/50/16 tires, they fill up '69 wheelwells nicely with a vintage, if slightly exaggerated look.

I see in the magazines this month that American is re-releasing Ansen Sprints. I'm having trouble redeveloping an appreciation for slots, so take that info for what its worth.

If you feel the need for real vintage mags, I say hold out for early Torq Thrust D's, the "crows feet" 6"ers. Use all around or with 7"ers in the rear. Hand polished would be nice with Rally Green.

[Supercar_Kid]

Tom makes an interesting point. Day2ing a car is certainly something that by definition, is to be done to a particular owner's preference. I just think it should be done with strictly vintage parts (i.e. having been manufactured within a year or two of the car's model year) or otherwise it loses it's period look and simply appears "restified" with modern upgrades. Radial tires are a common comfort preference that kills a period look for me personally, but to each his own. Even though the lips on most vintage mags were a machined finish when new, a high polish buff looks cool too. Let's also not forget there are tons of Torq Thrust copies out there that have the same thing going for them that made them attractive purchases in the first place. They're cheaper and less sought after than Americans but were also heavily used by hot rodders back in the day. They don't have to be gennie big $ Torq Thrusts to look cool and period correct. I'm a big fan of vintage Internationals personally. Here's a pair of 14x7s that have had the lips machine polished.
http://www.yenko.net/attachments/127331-InternationalMags.jpg

[55chevy]

How about the best of both worlds.. Cragars that LOOK like Torque Thrusts http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[ss427copo]

Torq'a look good on the green....kinda road racer style. BUT...I'm partial to Cragars as you can see! 4"x15 on L-78 Firestones up front and 8x15's on L-60's on the rear! You Camaro looks sweet. Jeff http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[musclcar]

i agree with hvychev why not go for the ansen sprint mag look.i've always liked the look of mag wheels it really makes the car look awesome.on my car a 72 chevy camaro ss i'm running 15x4 us-indy mags with 165-15 tires.the rear right now is 15x8 rally wheels with 295-60-15 tires but i'm loking to change the rims to either 15x10 torque thusts or 15x10 us-indy mags.with those 15x4 mags up front it really has that day2 look http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[RichSchmidt]

For a trip down the strip with that car,nothing would do it justice like a set of satin finished super tricks.Not new centerlines,but real supertricks,with the cast center caps in the front with the blue cragar logo,and the flat centers on the wheels.Even more realistic might be a mismatched set of wheels.A set of indy slots in the front and super tricks out back.Period correct to th "T".The secret is to run them on a really clean car with the wheels detailed right,it will look great.