CAROLINA BLUE PAINT CODE?????

[kodi396]

I have been searching for information on the paint code on my 68 Chevelle SS396 convertible. It was built in Baltimore and sold in NC. The paint code on the trim tag shows 2393-2 where the paint code should show a letter. It has a black top as it should. I know I am reading the tag correctly. Could someone please try and shed some light on this code. I have searched unsuccessfully for a build sheet. I found a small area of original paint (car was redone in the 90's) and it is a sky blue called Carolina Blue, available only in North and South Carolina. Please help!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[MosportGreen66]

If the car is an original Carolina Blue car, I believe it would have a "- -" as the paint code... no numbers just dashes. I think the same is for any special paint car.

[Mark_C]

Carolina Blue was probably 69 Olds Powder Blue, Olds paint code 80, PPG code 2096. Don't know if it was available prior to 69, as I haven't seen it as a stock color in any GM line prior to 69.

[Mr70]

Kodi396 I saw your post on TC too
I have Fisher Body paint codes for ALL Manufacturers & years back then.
I know it's here somewhere,& I can help you,but I need time to find that DAMN book! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[1969camarors427]

Rick, i can check Al`s carolina blue convertible when i go there on saturday.

[1969camarors427]

Check out this website, a friend of mine own an original paint carolina blue 70 SS convertible, just click on Al`s car.http://members.shaw.ca/hmshannon/index.htm

[Jonesy]

Carolina Blue is code 12399.

2393 (if that is it) Is Admiral Blue Poly which is a color for AMC in 1972

[Kurt S]

Several different shades I think were used by different dealers; there were 3-4 Pontiac/ Olds colors used. One was 63 Olds Wedgewood Blue.

[kodi396]

I looked all over this car, and there is no sign it has ever been anything but light blue. Have a PPG number from someone in Ohio. He painted a 68 Camaro Carolina Blue. Also another guy with a 71 Chevelle . Here are the numbers I got from them. One is Carolina Blue the other I believe is light blue.
PPG# DSB12713
PPG# DSB17399
Thanks for all the replies

[micky69396]

I still have some of the paint here if you need a sprayout I can do.

[kodi396]

Mickey.... I had spoken to you awhile ago concerning this Carolina Blue fiasco. I would appreciate any help you can supply. Let me know by email or phone about any costs or whatever I need on my end, and I will. Thanks to all who tried to help http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[NCGuy68]

Living just 30 minutes from Chapel Hill I know what Carolina Blue is. Was the color suppose to relate somehow to the UNC (Tarheel) sports teams?

I always thought it was dealer applied and not squirted from the factory. Someone set me straight please.

[Charley Lillard]

I had a LS6 Chevelle with orig paint that was that color. -- paint code. Here is the sheet. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/129164-P1010001.JPG

[JoeG]

Legendary Motors on an episode of Dream Car Garage also had a '69 SS396 Chevelle feature car in Carolina Blue-that's how the color was described-----

[kodi396]

Here is a shot of the trim tag. Click the attachment.

[Mr70]

I found my Fisher book and it does not show a code as you have stated.The closest code I can find is #293B used in 1987 as Silver.
I called a few who have Lacquer under their finger nails & all said they too can not find that code.Not in Chrysler-Ford or AMC paint books too.Most believe it is an in house reference no. to paperwork supporting the color change.
I agree,especially after reading the current "Chevy Rumble" Magazine.
In it,they Feature a 1970 SS Chevelle,built in Canada,but with Special Order Monaco Orange paint.On the cowl Tag is stamped SP4644,as well as 4644 written w/chalk on its firewall.
They too reference this no. to mean in house paperwork,supporting the color change.
Even though in 1970,a Monaco Orange Cowl tag code was --,some plants did their own thing,and went against the recommended way of doing things.
Your Baltimore 1968 is most likely the same.

[mtb]

I just joined this forum after finding it while hunting for info on the infamous 'Carolina Blue' GM colors from the mid 60's. My 66 SS-396 was Marina Blue but.........I grew up in Burlington, NC back then...WM Williams class of 67....

Now, to clear up (hopeful) any and all questions about that color...I KNOW it was available (supposedly ONLY in NC/SC) as early as 1966. I know this because there were at least 12 Chevelles that color ordered from the 2 local dealers....one being Alamance Motors on Church St. just 1 block from Sox Sinclair (yes...THAT Sox). Jerry Garringer was the original owner of a 396/375 Carolina Blue car. My best friend in high school, Charles Allen, whose dad ran Allens ESSO on Webb Avenue was the original owner of a 1968 SS-396 in Carolina Blue. Also, a guy I worked with at Southern Bell in Greensboro by the name of DAN Garringer (not sure if related to Jerry....but you know how it is in the south!) traded his 1964 283/301 Malibu for a 1968 Camaro, RS/SS 396/375 in Carolina Blue. To top that a guy in Burlington whose name I cannot remember owned Carolina Blue 1966 GTO and a man I worked for while in high school who is the number 1 UNC/CH fan in the world (Maurice Koury) drove nothing but Carolina Blue Coupe DeVilles.

I'm not sure if the color was around prior to 1966 but it most definitely WAS a factory color from 1966 through 1969. Maybe 1970 or 1971. A friend said he thought they discontinued it with the C/R drop and subsequent H/P losses after the 71 model. I would not wager anything on that/

[mtb]

There is an original 1969 Carolina blue SS 396 for sale on 2040 Cars located in Chattanooga, Tn that shows the data plate and the color is preceded by - - PNT

Special order only.

[resto4u]

Carolina is a pontiac/buick color. I have a Carolina blue 73 z28 and the color name cross reference is azure blue. Go to the Auto Color Library website to find the dupont/ppg/ditzler paint numbers.

[copo69]

Back in the day there was a Carolina Blue '73 Z here. Was an automatic car with black stripes.

[mtb]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: resto4u</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Carolina is a pontiac/buick color. I have a Carolina blue 73 z28 and the color name cross reference is azure blue. Go to the Auto Color Library website to find the dupont/ppg/ditzler paint numbers. </div></div>

NO such color listed for Pontiac, Buick, or any other GM car...special order only, NC/SC only. Believe what you want, it was not a standard color and the data plate.

[John Brown]

Look like this?

http://www.myperfectcolor.com/en/color/27430_Sherwin-Williams-SW2393-Potomac-Blue

http://images.myperfectcolor.com/repositories/images/colors/MPC00027430-1.jpg

[L78M22Rag]

This is original Carolina Blue paint from 1970

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg155/helmuteckert/Als_70Chevelle_b.jpg (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/helmuteckert/media/Als_70Chevelle_b.jpg.html)

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: L78M22Rag</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is original Carolina Blue paint from 1970

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg155/helmuteckert/Als_70Chevelle_b.jpg (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/helmuteckert/media/Als_70Chevelle_b.jpg.html) </div></div>

Hi Helmut

Good example, a picture is worth a thousand posts.

PS: Are you coming East for NOCC?

Ryan

[mtb]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: L78M22Rag</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is original Carolina Blue paint from 1970

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg155/helmuteckert/Als_70Chevelle_b.jpg (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/helmuteckert/media/Als_70Chevelle_b.jpg.html) </div></div>

Was this car sold in either NC or SC? If not, it is not Caroling Blue. Just as theFord guys think every PINK Mustang they see a a PLAYBOY PINK car, it isn't. The 30+ C/B Chevys I knew of in Burlington in 66-68 were a richer blue, but if this is the original paint it could have faded.

According to paintref.com no paint code 71 existed for a 1970 Chevy....

[XXXGoldL34M20]

Here is one having fun in the sun. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[resto4u]

Look at this, carolina blue / azure blue (http://www.tcpglobal.com/aclchip.aspx?image=1970-Buick-pg01.jpg)

[SOM2001SS]

I just saw this 1967 truck posted on CL, seller lists color as Carolina blue and white. Don't know if he is just loosely referring to the color or it is the actual color specified... **I have no affiliation to this CL listing**
http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/3937498237.html
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r128/sunset01ss/Misc/00F0F_4ceyhDnFhr3_600x450_zps080007f7.jpg (http://s143.photobucket.com/user/sunset01ss/media/Misc/00F0F_4ceyhDnFhr3_600x450_zps080007f7.jpg.html)

[Kurt S]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mtb</div><div class="ubbcode-body">NO such color listed for Pontiac, Buick, or any other GM car...special order only, NC/SC only. Believe what you want, it was not a standard color and the data plate. </div></div>

I'm not following. Any dealer could special order any color. Denver dealers and others in SD and CA also ordered this shade of blue.
There was no production Chevrolet color this shade of blue so dealers often ordered paint colors from other GM lines (though they weren't limited to just those colors). Different Carolina dealers could and did order different shades of Carolina Blue - 63 Wedgewood blue &amp; 69 Azure Blue come to mind. Real GM colors that were actually used.
I bet the zone provided some guidance on color choice. Most I have seen are the shades shown in this thread.

[firstgenaddict]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kurt S</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mtb</div><div class="ubbcode-body">NO such color listed for Pontiac, Buick, or any other GM car...special order only, NC/SC only. Believe what you want, it was not a standard color and the data plate. </div></div>

I'm not following. Any dealer could special order any color. Denver dealers and others in SD and CA also ordered this shade of blue.
There was no production Chevrolet color this shade of blue so dealers often ordered paint colors from other GM lines (though they weren't limited to just those colors). Different Carolina dealers could and did order different shades of Carolina Blue - 63 Wedgewood blue &amp; 69 Azure Blue come to mind. Real GM colors that were actually used.
I bet the zone provided some guidance on color choice. Most I have seen are the shades shown in this thread. </div></div>

If I am not mistaken the Light Blue Z28 JL8 car with all the paperwork was ordered through a dealer in Colorado.
With the exception of something having been pre-arranged with the University, I can imagine no reason Central nor Zone office would have cared which dealer wanted what color... they were there to sell cars.

[bigsixman]

The highly optioned Carolina Blue 1969 Camaro Z/28 with the JL-8 was sold through Rapp Chevrolet in Marion, SD. It ended up in Colorado and that may be where the confusion comes in.

[Kurt S]

No confusion on my part. That's the SD in my post.
Denver dealers had their own regional Denver Hugger that was this color.

[L78M22Rag]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mtb</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: L78M22Rag</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is original Carolina Blue paint from 1970

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg155/helmuteckert/Als_70Chevelle_b.jpg (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/helmuteckert/media/Als_70Chevelle_b.jpg.html) </div></div>

Was this car sold in either NC or SC? If not, it is not Caroling Blue. Just as theFord guys think every PINK Mustang they see a a PLAYBOY PINK car, it isn't. The 30+ C/B Chevys I knew of in Burlington in 66-68 were a richer blue, but if this is the original paint it could have faded.

According to paintref.com no paint code 71 existed for a 1970 Chevy.... </div></div>

Yes, it was sold at Alamance Motors in North Carolina.

[mtb]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: L78M22Rag</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mtb</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: L78M22Rag</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is original Carolina Blue paint from 1970

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg155/helmuteckert/Als_70Chevelle_b.jpg (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/helmuteckert/media/Als_70Chevelle_b.jpg.html) </div></div>

Was this car sold in either NC or SC? If not, it is not Caroling Blue. Just as theFord guys think every PINK Mustang they see a a PLAYBOY PINK car, it isn't. The 30+ C/B Chevys I knew of in Burlington in 66-68 were a richer blue, but if this is the original paint it could have faded.

According to paintref.com no paint code 71 existed for a 1970 Chevy.... </div></div>

Yes, it was sold at Alamance Motors in North Carolina. </div></div>

Do you know who the original owner was? I was stationed in Norfolk, Va. that year and had my 66 396/375 and got down home to Burlington every month or so. I betting I most likely know the person who bought it new. I still stay in touch with some guys there and if you have the original owners name and they are still around I'll put him onto this site.

[L78M22Rag]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mtb</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Do you know who the original owner was? I was stationed in Norfolk, Va. that year and had my 66 396/375 and got down home to Burlington every month or so. I betting I most likely know the person who bought it new. I still stay in touch with some guys there and if you have the original owners name and they are still around I'll put him onto this site. </div></div>

The original owner was a woman. My friend (and previous owner at the time) went down to NC and visited the dealership in person (now converted to a tire shop) and some of the original employees still worked there! They got to talking about the car and making calls... before they knew it, they were talking with the original owner. As I understand it, she really liked her cars. Always had big block Chevelles. She said that she would have raced NASCAR if she hadn't been a woman. She checked off all the options, but couldn't get the LS6 because she checked AC. She also didn't check PS because her previous Chevelle order included that in the SS package. The car has since had PS added. PM me if you want to discuss specifics.

[PeteLeathersac]

Alamance Motors Burlington NC Matchbook on eBay...
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1967-Chevrolet-Al...=item4d220c9aab (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1967-Chevrolet-Alamance-Motors-Inc-Match-Book-Burlington-NC-/331283733163?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item4d220c 9aab)

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~ Pete

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/08/full-2506-14846-alamancemtrsburlingtonnc.jpg

[L78M22Rag]

I’m re-posting this photo in this thread because the greedy ****heads at Photobucket decided they should retroactively charge for a service that they originally offered. Photobucket sucks!

[Mr70]

For people researching this in the future:
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