Ignition Switch Marking

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

When looking at Joe's '69 L78 Nova at the Pittsburgh WoW show, I noticed this bright red paint marker on the chrome ignition switch, on the steering column. It was only red on the recessed area of the switch. When I questioned Joe, he simply replied that it was on all of the cars they had restored.

I knew I didn't have it on my Yenko Deuce, and assumed that it had worn off during the years of use, even though something that bright should have stuck out in my mind when seeing other deuces. Joe had said that he didn't have to touch up the red mark on his switch, so logic says that I should have seen it on the low mile deuces. I planned to check my 69 Nova SS, which only has 62k miles on it.

I looked at my '69, and the red mark is there, no trace on my deuce though.

Did this red mark stop for the '70's?

[Mr70]

I've seen it on Original 1970 cars,and up to 1971 vehicles in junkyards.I wouldn't say for sure it was original to all of them,but then it could've worn off too.(How they heck can it even wear away out of that recession anyway?)
I've had a few of those ignition switches NOS in the box,and they have the Flat Red paint mark too.I do see it visible in some of the 1970-71 35mm Chevrolet Dealer Filmstrips.
Possibly more then one plant made the switch for GM,and therefore the indifference?

I do like to see either a properly restored car,or survivor having this red mark as well as the Key Minder Buzzer working too.
Floats my Boat! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Hmmm... so it's limited to pre-70 vehicles, what about orig condition '70 Yenko Deuces? Schoneye, what does you car have? We have documented mid-year changes on the Novas that occur in the middle of the 3 week deuce run, so maybe this is one of them?

[Belair62]

Anyone got a pic to give us a better idea ofwhat you guys are talking about ??? The only markings I have seen on the switch are teeeny tiiiny leters spelling out http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Charley.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

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Anyone got a pic to give us a better idea ofwhat you guys are talking about ??? The only markings I have seen on the switch are teeeny tiiiny leters spelling out http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Charley.gif

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Get your glasses checked, those letters actually say:

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/BelairSucks.gif

[Belair62]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif Come on...you guys sleep with this stuff and you expect us to know what the hell you are talking about..."in the recess" what the hell is that ? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[DarrenX33]

Peters go take a picture of one!

[Alss]

My 69 COPO has it..more of a dull red than bright but definatley there.

ALbert

[Mr70]

For Mr.Magoo up there..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/Ignition20001.jpg

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Thank you!!

[Mr70]

A little of my Red interior is reflecting on the opposite side of the chrome switch.
Definitely Flat red paint in the alignment recession.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/Ignition30001.jpg

[ORIGLS6]

Do any of you people have jobs? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif In the middle of a work day you're snapping and posting pictures of God knows what!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

I'm SOOOOOOOOOOOO jealous! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[budnate]

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A little of my Red interior is reflecting on the opposite side of the chrome switch.
Definitely Flat red paint in the alignment recession.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/Ignition30001.jpg

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yea and the column is dusty...slacker!! if that's dusty I can only imagine how bad your pistons look... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Yea, you can tell the cabin fever has set in when were discussing Dill caps and red key indicators on ignition switches! You guys need help http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[Mr70]

We can't all be Red Hammers Dennis!
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"You guys need help"
MARLIN....YOU'RE THE ONE THAT BROUGHT UP BOTH OF THOSE SUBJECTS! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

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We can't all be Red Hammers Dennis!
http://www.yenko.net/attachments/130358-nutz.gif http://www.yenko.net/attachments/130358-nutz.gif http://www.yenko.net/attachments/130358-nutz.gif http://www.yenko.net/attachments/130358-nutz.gif http://www.yenko.net/attachments/130358-nutz.gif http://www.yenko.net/attachments/130358-nutz.gif http://www.yenko.net/attachments/130358-nutz.gif http://www.yenko.net/attachments/130358-nutz.gif http://www.yenko.net/attachments/130358-nutz.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif

"You guys need help"
MARLIN....YOU'RE THE ONE THAT BROUGHT UP BOTH OF THOSE SUBJECTS! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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You really are the sharpest TOOL in the shed http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Nova Research Project]

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY;

Keep asking questions. I live for these details......

Greg

[JRSully]

One of my 70 parts car has the red ign. bezel (december 69 build) , my 69 L78 (april 69 build) and my 70 L78 (May 70 build) did not, I was always wondering what the significiance was, I look forward to the day when every single piece on the car will have it's own thread here.! SULLY

[Unreal]

My air cleaner wing nut is turned is 37 degrees clockwise from the centerline of the car. I think it's original, but I'm not positive. Does anyone know for sure what the correct alignment should be?

[Mr70]

During what month & Plant was your car built at?

[Belair62]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[MikeA]

My '70 and '72 do not have the red ignition switch marking. The switch in the '72 may have been replaced by the prior owner. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[JRSully]

Mr70, not quite sure on build date, I crushed it already. But it had bolt on door hinges so it would have to be an early 70 car (prior to mid January 70)SULLY

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I knew Sully, MikeA and Gregg would dig this thread http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'm starting to think this little detail ended with the '69 calendar builds, sort of like the other details that we've documented, ie; hinges, brake valve, etc...

Allen, what does your early '70 have?

Oh, http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Charley.gif

[DarrenX33]

Bill Pritchard stopped by this weekend and we starting talking about this topic. I check mine in the 69 Z and it is indeed red. Just an FYI. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Bill Pritchard]

Another FYI....mine is red on my 69 Chevelle, too.

[pinkwinker]

Mine is most defiantly "Pink" in the '69 manure spreader

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

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Mine is most defiantly "Pink" in the '69 manure spreader

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Humor isn't your strong suit.

[DarrenX33]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[ORIGLS6]

"I look forward to the day when every single piece on the car will have it's own thread here.!" (We're rapidly approaching that goal! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif)

"My air cleaner wing nut is turned is 37 degrees clockwise from the centerline of the car. I think it's original, but I'm not positive. Does anyone know for sure what the correct alignment should be?"

I would venture a guess that the 37° deviation (plus or minus 3°) is correct. The question is; which side of the Mississippi River the car was built. Cars built West of the Big Muddy seem to have the wing nut Counterclockwise while the Eastern cars were Clockwise. Isn't that what your research indicates Rick? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

BTW, my 05D Arlington car: no red mark!_____________________________________________ ____

Help me Lord: I need a life!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

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[firstgenaddict]

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"I look forward to the day when every single piece on the car will have it's own thread here.!" (We're rapidly approaching that goal! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif)

"My air cleaner wing nut is turned is 37 degrees clockwise from the centerline of the car. I think it's original, but I'm not positive. Does anyone know for sure what the correct alignment should be?"

I would venture a guess that the 37° deviation (plus or minus 3°) is correct. The question is; which side of the Mississippi River the car was built. Cars built West of the Big Muddy seem to have the wing nut Counterclockwise while the Eastern cars were Clockwise. Isn't that what your research indicates Rick? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

BTW, my 05D Arlington car: no red mark!_____________________________________________ ____

Help me Lord: I need a life!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

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http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gifWe are indeed getting alittle crazy... hey outside my window are the men white coats ...they might be coming for me!!!http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif Gotta go now...

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

We aren't crazy, Chevrolet is for making such changes in the first place http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[MosportGreen66]

Just an observation gentlemen. My 1970 Camaro does not have the red makring. My 1969 Z28 does have the marking. I think it unique to Hi-Po cars.

[Mr70]

I had two steering columns I personally pulled out of a 1971 Pontiac Grand prix,and a 1971 Buick Skylark.
These both had Red dabbed Ignition switches and still retained their factory cast flashing covering the release button.Thus they were never been replaced.

[Nova Research Project]

Quick! Somebody analyze the paint to get the paint code and come up with a $99 dollar kit so that I can make mine look original! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

Greg

[Belair62]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif I'm thinking Testors "Red" is an exact match !!!

[camarojoe]

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Just an observation gentlemen. My 1970 Camaro does not have the red makring. My 1969 Z28 does have the marking. I think it unique to Hi-Po cars.

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Hi-Po ignition switch paint??? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[MosportGreen66]

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Just an observation gentlemen. My 1970 Camaro does not have the red makring. My 1969 Z28 does have the marking. I think it unique to Hi-Po cars.

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Hi-Po ignition switch paint??? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Then prove me wrong. Everyone that has posted thus far has a higher performance car then the Camaro. Just make an inference. Excuse me.

[camarojoe]

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I had two steering columns I personally pulled out of a 1971 Pontiac Grand prix,and a 1971 Buick Skylark.
These both had Red dabbed Ignition switches and still retained their factory cast flashing covering the release button.Thus they were never been replaced.

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Mossport,

The above both sound like relatively low-performance cars to me... Rick, was there anything special about the pontiac and buick these switches were in, or was it a standard model GP and 'lark? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

I personally had a 69 malibu 350 3 speed a few years ago that also had the red paint, i don't know for certain if it had ever been re-touched up or not, but it was there and looked original to me.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

So far, it looks like the camaros and Novas stopped in '69 or early '70, the Chevelle body styles continued it into 70+.

[Supercar_Kid]

My Dad's untouched, one owner '77 ElCamino has the red mark on the ignition switch...and there's nothing high performance about it.

I think alot more of these switches may have had the red and it simply wore out or chipped out much more early on than you might expect. Paint does not stick well to chrome, and that little sliver of red bakes in the sun on the steering column, one day it gets bumped with a finger and now your red hash mark is a tiny red flake on your floormat. Kinda like the chrome plating around horn buttons and radio knobs...it doesn't take much abuse or use for that stuff to be worn off completely. Just my opinion...

[Mr70]

I agree more had them later on then we think,at least in the A-body line.
Those donor cars were a 1971 Pontiac SJ & Buick Skylark Custom 4 dr sedan.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I was selfishly concerned with the 3 weeks of Deuce production, and I've been studying my pics of the original low mile deuces. So far, it appears the Deuces should not have the little red mark on the switch.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

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Mine is most defiantly "Pink" in the '69 manure spreader

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Hey 'Fred', where in Montana are you? There was a Deuce in Montana for years, now owned by a prominent member, I'm sure you ran across it in your travels. How far are you from Seatle?

[JRSully]

Marlin, for a little more detailed time perspective on the red mark thing szpecific to Novas, my 70 L78 Nova built 05B (close to Deuce production dates) did not have the red mark. SULLY

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Thanks Sully, that fits into the window we were looking at!

[Allen]

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I knew Sully, MikeA and Gregg would dig this thread http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'm starting to think this little detail ended with the '69 calendar builds, sort of like the other details that we've documented, ie; hinges, brake valve, etc...

Allen, what does your early '70 have?

Oh, http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Charley.gif

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Marlin,
My Nova has that faded red mark on the ignition cylinder.

[Mark_C]

My 04L Norwood built 69 Pace Car has the red highlight on the switch, never noticed it until this thread mentioned it.