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MikeA
04-08-2005, 03:13 PM
From Yahoo news.
GM Pulls Ads from Los Angeles Times Over Coverage
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - General Motors Corp. has pulled its advertising from the Los Angeles Times over what it called factual errors and misrepresentations in the newspaper, a spokesman for the automaker said on Thursday.
GM did not say how much it spent on advertising in the Times, one of the largest U.S. newspapers, or how long the ban would continue.
"General Motors decided this week to cease advertising in the Los Angeles Times based on strongly voiced objections from our dealers in California about factual errors and misrepresentations in the Times' editorial coverage," said GM spokesman Brian Akre.
The Los Angeles Times, owned by newspaper publisher Tribune Co., said it was examining GM's concerns.
"We will look into any complaints GM has about inaccuracy or misrepresentation and will make any appropriate corrections," spokesman David Garcia said by e-mail.
GM did not specify what spurred it to pull its advertising, but Times auto writer Dan Neil on Wednesday published a critical column about the company's brand strategy and called on GM to "dump" Chairman and Chief Executive Rick Wagoner.
"We recognize and support the news media's freedom to report and editorialize as they see fit," Akre said. "Likewise, GM and its retailers are free to spend our advertising dollars where we see fit."
djunod
04-08-2005, 04:14 PM
I guess we better not criticize GM's creative abilities here... who knows what the fallout will be...
70 copo
04-08-2005, 08:06 PM
Yes, GM might have to go out on a limb and build some good product, but alas - it did get worse. For those of you driving a newer Silverado you might want to get your affairs in order....... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif
http://money.cnn.com/2005/04/06/Autos/pickups_crashtests/index.htm
70 copo
04-26-2005, 11:39 PM
Worse news....
http://money.cnn.com/2005/04/25/Autos/gm_recall/index.htm
Toyota was asked to Help...
http://money.cnn.com/2005/04/26/Autos/toyota.reut/index.htm
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Kim_Howie
04-26-2005, 11:55 PM
Very sad. I will walk before I drive a rice burner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif
Chevy454
04-26-2005, 11:56 PM
If Toyota and Honda won't raise their prices voluntarily, then why not just jack the tariffs up on the import cars to where they SHOULD BE and be done with it?
COPO_Anders
04-27-2005, 12:15 AM
Rob, to jack up tariffs might not be a good idea. It could hurt your export, if other countries did the same. And I want to be able to buy American cars here in Europe!
We are seeing Swedish companies buying from China instead of producing here in Sweden. I would like to see the Swedish goverment lowering costs for the companies producing here, instead of jacking up tariffs on import.
Anders
Mr. T
04-27-2005, 12:35 AM
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DITTO!!!
YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
04-27-2005, 12:37 AM
I'm not concerned about a recall on my new truck, I see it as a responsible step from the manufacturer. The impact tests are simply that, a test, and not to be deemed a reality. For goodness sake, I don't plan on hitting a concrete barrier on a partial head-on with my truck! If anything, it would be another vehicle which would change the accident dynamics exponentially. I believe that anyone can be seriously hurt or fatally injured in any type of crash, so I take the tests as additional info.
I am amused at the mere thought of the Japanese raising their prices to help the US automakers! Why? The weakening Yen is hurting the US, but that's life. If the US automakers would trim themselves down, and make a comparably quality vehicle they would be able to protect their main moneymakers. I am ok with big business, but even more so for Capitalism - and letting the product dictate the success of the company. In College they used the Harley Davidson tariff/turnaround as a case study, and it worked. The automakers have had a lot longer than the 5 years that Harley had.
I'm a die hard American though, who believes that the Japanese have helped increase the quality and reliability of the US cars. Now, the sport ut's and trucks are next. That being said, I will continue to buy American.
mike s
04-27-2005, 12:50 AM
i drive a 2005 ford f-250 with the trailer brakes and no foreign truck can compare i traded an 01 silverado 1500 in on it, but i bet my ford could a pull a tractor trailer with some lite mods to the bed so american all the way http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif
Chevy454
04-27-2005, 12:52 AM
I can agree with that, M, but we simply can't compete with the dirt cheap labor and such that other countries provide. I can't remember the exact product, but I saw a study where I *believe* China could pay to import steel from the US, produce the product on their soil, then pay to ship it back to the US for retail, and could still be done cheaper than their US counterpart could do it. Granted, that's not the fault of the foreign producer, so why penalize them, and I can agree with a trim down of the US auto manufacturers (starting at the top)...but is it too late?
YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
04-27-2005, 01:34 AM
China's labor is indeed the cheapest, but several US companies have gone the route of Mexico, Asia, et al, only to find that their best response time, delivery and eventually their ultimate cost is better right here in the US. I know they had to get out from under their Union arangements to enjoy their lower costs, but that's another debate! I don't think it's too late, provided the automakers are committed. They can survive several quarters of losses, that's why the account is called 'Retained Earnings' and it holds all of the non-disbursed income from prior periods.
70 copo
04-27-2005, 03:09 AM
Rob,
As I see it we are viewing the result of a convergence of several issues all at once. The first is the recent 5 year market climate at GM which gave up product diversitiy in sales (cars and trucks) for dollars (trucks).
The Chevrolet Motor division almost became a truck and SUV sales company over the past 8 years. Now gas is at record prices and buyers are looking away. As a result GM has been hard at it offering insane rebates to get buyers back. Problem is that the buyers are now trained to wait for the rebates- so they will not buy without steep discounts. The main problem is an aging line of truck bodies which was GM's main line of income generation and a lack of excitement on the sales floor. The current situation was years in the making and is now eating into the bottom line.
This comes at a time when GM is rebuilding and pumping money into its car lines redesigning its cars. The car market is clearly import dominated. The import companies are media savvy, have been for years- and it shows.
Now GM's stock continues to plummet and this causes GM to steal a political buzz word and blame it all on the "rising cost of Health insurance" for its union employees- in order to save face with its stockholders who are also ready to bolt.
With its stock tumbling, GM blaming everybody but its own management for its poor business position, with new cars that are years behind what is now selling, a truck line that is aged and with gas bumping $2.50 a gallon - has now evidently decided to pick a fight with the media in LA, which means the rest of the media will notice GM now as well. It should be no shock to anyone that we are now seeing a steady stream of anti GM articles and will no doubt continue to do so.
The same media that on a good day might like the Corvette but little else GM offers. This is a fatal move for GM.
You can not piss off everybody and still continue to sell vehicles.
I recall well that this is the same company that cut and ran from many of us in 2002, away from the 2+2 rwd market in general and in doing so broke its agreements with the CAW, black listing the Camaro name in the process.
Sales of the SSR are flat. The GTO is flagging. A good Caddy and a great Vette will not save the entire company.
Clearly a band aid approach will not work here. GM is in free fall and has yet to hit bottom.
Phil
The playing field in the WTO is not exactly level when it comes to some of our "Foreign Friends" we happen to trade with.You can't have two dogs go at it and keep one of the dogs chained.--The chained dog is gonna die. The U.S.A is being chained and asked to fight a battle it cannot win when political decisions are dictating trade policy.---U.S.?--at this rate the last letter will be up for grabs..... web page (http://www.unsustainable.org/view_art_un.php?AID=306)
kwhizz
04-27-2005, 03:51 PM
And what about the entering of the "Litigation" age in America where Lawyers are out to seek every way to "Profit" by suing sucessful American corporations for anything possible.......I call it the "Raping of America".
I could go on and on.........."Sheesh" I hate those guy's
As a Business owner.......nothing is Black and white anymore
Ken
70 copo
05-06-2005, 06:31 AM
GM credit now rated as Junk....
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050505/D89TADPO0.html
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