motion chevelle for sale

[raw muscle cars]

http://www.hemmings.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/dealers.detail/hmn_vehicle_id/218924

Any thoughts on this car.

[JoeG]

Well that's not a 3bl. sitting atop that Tarantula Man., but I had changed to the same set-up in '71 to give the car some manners.When he says Motion MSD unit, I guess he means the PhaseIII unit? ---If he has the Docs to back it up,especially as a PhaseIII(not Phase3),it's a very http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif Awesome find/car.....

[Jeff Murphy]

They've also got a ZL-1 powered "Yenko" there, showing some kind of docs. Joe, you should take a drive over and check em out for the team! Not far for you to go...

[JoeG]

Almost positive this car was at the Staten Island college car show '89-'91?....Pretty sure it was trailered there and the fellow said it was from an estate--same carb/man. set-up.---------I'll see if my travels take me to the bronx,--right now I'm a day and a half late for E-TOWN......

[jfkheat]

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They've also got a ZL-1 powered "Yenko" there, showing some kind of docs. Joe, you should take a drive over and check em out for the team! Not far for you to go...

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The ZL-1 powered Camaro has been on Ebay several times. It is on there now. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...ssPageName=WDVW (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6161&item=45430815 61&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW) It has discussed here a couple times. From what I understand, the dealer doesn't have a very good reputation.
James

[Pantera]

I don't much about him but I bet his Attorney has a hell of a good rep. Did you read the disclamer on the car at the bottom?

I feel he may have covered it all. perhaps even missing persons known or undiscovered in the future....!!!!
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Pantera

[Salvatore]

Wasn't this the car that was at Atlantic City in February? Sold for like 69 or 79,000?

[whitetop]

"Motion MSD"

Pretty amazing that MSD was not in operation back then.

[JoeG]

Sam, resto4u in the B/M section mentioned the same sale, I missed that one,did you read about it?.....
Yeah whitetop,Iknow -----maybe he's got an MSD unit on now and he's just reading what's there. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif-----I've got an MSD unit on now for reliability.

[Chevy454]

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Pretty amazing that MSD was not in operation back then.

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In the history section of my '02 MSD catalog, it states Autotronic Controls Corp was founded in 1970 and "MSD has embraced new technology throughout our 30 years"...

[njsteve]

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I don't much about him but I bet his Attorney has a hell of a good rep. Did you read the disclamer on the car at the bottom?

I feel he may have covered it all. perhaps even missing persons known or undiscovered in the future....!!!!
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif
Pantera

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What the heck does this mean: "IN 1986 JOEL ROSEN WAS CONTACTED IN ORDER TO CONFIRM THE AUTHENTICITY OF THIS VEHICLE, AT WHICH TIME THIS VEHICLE WAS STORED AWAY UNTIL 2005 INORDER TO PROTECT THE HISTORICAL IMPORTANCE OF THIS VEHICLE,"

So in other words they contacted "Joel Rosen" and he did what??? I can say I've contacted the President of the United States but it doesnt mean he spoke to me...or documented that my car is a real car! Maybe he called the Joel Rosen down the street from him who owns the deli in his town and not the real Joel Rosen who ran Motion Perf.

[whitetop]

I have never seen MSD before the '75 period. I also have abunch of Midwest, Gratiot, Bell catalogs(these were similar to ummit or Jegs) from 1974 and I just looked into their catalogs and no MSD.
Even in the car mags you will not see any refernec to msd in the early '70's but you do starting around 75-76. The only ones are mallory, Accell, Echlin, Du-coil, Judson and several others.
Also I was refering to the earlier '70's when this car would have been worked on at motion.

[Chevy454]

As I said above, all I know is what the front of my '02 MSD catalog says, which is "over 30 years", which puts it prior to '72...what the availablity of an MSD unit was like back then I have no idea, but they do show a picture of an old school MSD box and flier...but I checked the Hemmings ad, and it doesn't show a picture of the *claimed* MSD unit, so I couldn't compare...anyone know of any more pictures of this car, prefereably engine bay shots?

[Pantera]

I thought Joel used Mallory stuff?

[JoeG]

Rob --I never saw any MSD units at Motion at least to '73 and Motion was pushing the PhaseIII even in the '72 catalog.---Like I said maybe he's just calling the PhaseIII box MSD. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif. I picked up my MSD unit from Motion in '89, So I now have a Motion MSD unit--Just an example

Larry my old cd ignition was the Mallory unit---

[Stefano]

Rat Bird the '78 Motion Trans AM, Had a Gold Phase III box installed by Motion Performance.

http://www.yenko.net/features/RATBRD3.jpg

[GTO_DON]

That car is Absolutly real!! I looked it over for an hour and it has more motion paperwork than i ever seen on a car. The guy who had it bought it 20 years ago at an estate auction for 5000.00. He was hoping to get 50,000 for it and it sold to that dealer for 79,000 plus fees! Its a nice car with 60% original paint with a build sheet. All the original motion parts were in the trunk. Ive been waiting for this guy to sell to see how much he wanted to make on it. It was a great deal. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

[Chevy454]

Stefano: the picture of the old school MSD unit in my catalog shows like an anodized gold one, so maybe? I'll agree with the above, that as far as I knew Joel was a Mallory man or it was just marked "Phase III"...maybe a stretch, but maybe since Joel was a speed shop he got an early example for whatever reason? Long shot, but ya never know!

[JoeG]

Rob, does that old school MSD unit resemble this PhaseIII version ..... http://www.yenko.net/attachments/135173-cd.jpg

[GTO_DON]

One thing I forgot to mention!!! The car was coverted by motion in 1978! all the documents and bills were dated in 1978. Maybe thats your answer! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[JoeG]

That makes sense now....I'm gonna try to get up there this week and see if it's the same car I had seen at that car show--- http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[GTO_DON]

It will definetly be the car!! The guy was about 62 years old. His wife wanted him to sell it. It would have been a steal at 55k!!!HE ALMOST SOLD IT FOR THAT! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif Just before it hit the block!!

[JoeG]

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His wife wanted him to sell it.

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They must be programmed at birth..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Allen]

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His wife wanted him to sell it.

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They must be programmed at birth..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Now that's funny right there..... I don't care who you are... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[Verne_Frantz]

The pic Joe posted of the Phase III ignition is actually a Delta Mark 10 B Cd ignition amplifier. Heathkit also sold them as kits back then. They came gold anodized. I had one on both my earlier cars and have a few old ones put away.
I also have some original literature for them regarding special hook-ups for the tach, since the quick pulse wasn't picked up very well by the old tachs.
The Mark 10 was on all the time once it was hooked up. The Mark 10B had a red button in one end that turned it off during tune-ups so an inductive pick-up timing light would work.
Verne

[Chevy454]

Here's the picture from the front of the MSD catalog...

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/135250-msd.JPG

[JoeG]

VAIRY INTEHRESTING..... http://www.yenko.net/attachments/135256-Scan0017.jpg

[Belair62]

Joe...haven't seen tha in years http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[jfkheat]

This car is now listed on Ebay.
James

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...ssPageName=WDVW (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6164&item=45467335 30&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW)

[jfkheat]

Scammers are at it already. The car is listed in a second auction with a "buy it now" price of $122,000.
James

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...761334&rd=1 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6164&item=45467613 34&rd=1)

[55chevy]

I hope that car makes it to SCR8 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif