View Full Version : Royal Plum 67 Camaro L78 on ebay
AMANOCC
04-30-2005, 08:25 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6161&item=45459044 97&rd=1
I was under the assumption that the L78 didn't show up in the 67 camaro till March-April 67, the trim tag/vin info on this car says the car was built 3rd week of November 1966 ???
Any comments?
budnate
04-30-2005, 09:44 PM
would also like to confirm the date on the rear axel...cool car if its real.
http://www.camaros.org/geninfo.shtml#MidyearChanges
was the 4K car that sold as a roller real fast a long year ago on e bay a royal plum car??...kinda recall it was..I cant find the link I thought I had saved from that auction. wonder if its the same car done
Steve Shauger
04-30-2005, 10:26 PM
This is a very questionable car. You are correct,L78's were introduced in Late March/April. The trim tag is very questionable. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
427TJ
04-30-2005, 11:59 PM
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was the 4K car that sold as a roller real fast a long year ago on e bay a royal plum car??...kinda recall it was..I cant find the link I thought I had saved from that auction. wonder if its the same car done
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That's the same thought I had when I saw this auction yesterday.
Car should have a square traction bar, right?
Should also have white body side pinstripes.
And no spoilers! (Easy Bud, eeeeeasy!) http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
mr396
05-01-2005, 12:40 AM
Looking at the End-Of-Month vin report on the CRG website it looks wrong, at least on the 68 Norwood cars. My 68 is a 07C vin 468959. that would put it at a may 68 build. The 2147 units for july seems to be low.
budnate
05-01-2005, 01:07 AM
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was the 4K car that sold as a roller real fast a long year ago on e bay a royal plum car??...kinda recall it was..I cant find the link I thought I had saved from that auction. wonder if its the same car done
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That's the same thought I had when I saw this auction yesterday.
Car should have a square traction bar, right?
Should also have white body side pinstripes.
And no spoilers! (Easy Bud, eeeeeasy!) http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
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at least the guy has a little taste and will put a spoiler on it http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif...the last word I read is somehwere in Dec was the first cars to recieve the traction arm, have not seen a car before then with a arm...thats why I really want to see some pics of the date and codes on the rear..hate bugging people when I am not buying but it could have some time line value if the car is somehow a pilot car of sorts and the rear is correct to that body.....things that make ya go hmmmmmmm...I am no bogus tag detective by a long stretch.....any experts see the text as being slighly off???
Kurt S
05-01-2005, 01:23 AM
That car can't be an original L78.
> Looking at the End-Of-Month vin report on the CRG website it looks wrong, at least on the 68 Norwood cars.
Those are #'s directly from GM. I put them together, but I agree that some of the #'s are off. Hence the disclaimer on the data.
budnate
05-01-2005, 01:27 AM
Kurt your doing a great job of gathering good information!!..question for you what is the earliest '67 with a traction arm have you seen with doc's to back up the claim????.
Bud.
plumL78
05-01-2005, 04:37 AM
I believe the car has a made up trim tag.On most 67 tags I've seen the GENERAL MOTORS CORP at the top and BODY BY FISHER at the bottom are stamped much lighter than the rest of the tag. I'm sure that they were already on the blank tags before the rest of the info. was added. That car tag looks to be all heavely stamped as in repro.
budnate
05-01-2005, 05:08 AM
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I believe the car has a made up trim tag.On most 67 tags I've seen the GENERAL MOTORS CORP at the top and BODY BY FISHER at the bottom are stamped much lighter than the rest of the tag. I'm sure that they were already on the blank tags before the rest of the info. was added. That car tag looks to be all heavely stamped as in repro.
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that is what I thought I was seeing..the whole thing looks like it was really stamped hard and it crowded the top and bottom text...
plumL78
05-01-2005, 05:31 AM
If you take some time and look at some of the real trim tags on Ebay you will notice a difference in the size of the letters on the top and bottom of the tag. Also you can look at the way the t's are between the o's in MOTOR and between the A and I in CORPORATION, they look very different. Then if you go to this site http://www.trimtags.com/ and look at the 67 camaro trim tag you will see someting very familiar to the tag on this (L78 camaro) tag
AMANOCC
05-01-2005, 06:27 AM
Whats with the radio delete, it looks like the aluminum panel that covers the radio/heater never had a hole in it??
supercomp 8.90
05-01-2005, 06:41 PM
the tag really looks to be fake, heres a picture of my 67 396 tag for a car i just sold.
budnate
05-01-2005, 07:43 PM
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hi early build date i am not sure camaro resource group said possibly one of the first of the big block cars,i dont know for sure i got the car from a friend of mine that died 20 years ago.all the engine trans and rear end was in the car when i got it the car sat in storage and not touched for over 20 years.have trans code #p7s177 rear code is QL0222g1 tag was on it tag was same as it had when i got it
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here ya go..I replied back asking for some pics of the rear... we have been proved wrong before..could be something...were tags available 20+ years ago???
My Calvin book does not show that QL code for 67..am I still asleep...
Jeff H
05-01-2005, 07:51 PM
Rear is dated too late for the car based on the 11C on the trim tag. I thought the earliest L78 cars had the 4P on the trim tag and that was in the April time frame. I don't see any way this car is an L78 and that tag is probably a fake.
Seattle Sam
05-02-2005, 08:49 AM
Bud,
QL is 3.31 open 12-bolt.
Kurt S
05-02-2005, 09:26 AM
I requested him to cease and desist in using the CRG's name. His statement is not true, CRG never stated any such thing.
Bud,
http://www.camaros.org/radiusrod.shtml
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