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blue thunder
05-24-2005, 01:30 AM
Hey Guys does anyone have any information on this Muncie transmission? These are the numbers that are stamped and cast on the unit that I have in my inventory. Housing casting 3885010, tailstock casting GM 3846429, and shift cover plate casting 3884685. The stamped numbers are P7E29 and 7R29599. If someone can help me identify this tranny with more specs I would greatly appreciate the help.
Thanks, Alan
'70 Deuce http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif
Alan,
P7E29:
*P=Muncie
*7=Year,1967
*E=Month,May
*29=Day
7R29599:
*7=year,1967
*R=Arlington Tx. is Vehicles Ass. Plant.-They only built BIG Cars.-This is from a Passenger car,Impala,Caprice,etc.
*29599=Unit VIN #,are you sure there isn't a digit missing here? It should have 6 digits.
(I think only the M20 Muncie was possible for the 1967 BIG passenger cars,so this is an M20 Muncie originally.)
*Maincase #3885010 used on ALL Muncie M20-M21-M22 1966-67 Cars.
*Side cover #3884685 used on Same.
*Ext. Housing #3846429 used on ALL Muncie cars until 2/65 I thought.Does it look authentic to this particular Trans.?
Rick
blue thunder
05-24-2005, 02:48 AM
Everything appears to be original to the transmission, so I think that it is correct. Could it be that this tranny came from a GTO? Many thanks for your reply, Alan http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif
blue thunder
05-24-2005, 02:50 AM
Rick,
Those were all of the VIN numbers that I could read from the case.
mockingbird812
05-24-2005, 03:15 AM
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Hey Guys does anyone have any information on this Muncie transmission? These are the numbers that are stamped and cast on the unit that I have in my inventory. Housing casting 3885010, tailstock casting GM 3846429, and shift cover plate casting 3884685. The stamped numbers are P7E29 and 7R29599. If someone can help me identify this tranny with more specs I would greatly appreciate the help.
Thanks, Alan
'70 Deuce http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif
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I think there shld be another number in front of the "7R29599" to designate the division of GM, i.e. 1 is Chevrolet.
Sam
Yep..That's true Sam.
Arlington built Chevrolet(1)-Pontiac(2)-Olds(3)
And they all had 6 last digits in their VIN#.Arlington didn't start numbering with the 200001 series until after Jan.1970.
7R29599
Alan can you see anything in front of the 7 & after the R?
blue thunder
05-24-2005, 04:24 AM
Guys,
I did some cleaning in this stamped area because it is a little scruffy and it looks like the letter after the 7 is a letter F. Does that make sense? There doesn't appear to be any other stamping before the 7 or after the F, other than the numbers shown in my first posting. What do
you think? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
crash
05-24-2005, 05:45 AM
Plant designation didn't start until the 1968 model year, and the 429 tail housing was used thru the 1970 model year in Pontiac A-body's...Hope this helps...Crash
mockingbird812
05-24-2005, 06:48 AM
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Plant designation didn't start until the 1968 model year, and the 429 tail housing was used thru the 1970 model year in Pontiac A-body's...Hope this helps...Crash
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Found this in the site below for what it is worth:
"Beginning in 1968, the car's last eight numbers of the VIN were stamped on the transmission. As with all car productions there are exceptions to the rule. One good source has a late model 1967 GTO with the VIN stamped on it. "
<font color="red"> GTO Alley (http://www.gtoalley.com/transns.html) </font>
Other useful info found on this site too.
Sam http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
blue thunder
05-24-2005, 05:41 PM
Thanks,
I will give a look at this information to see if I can de-code some of it.
Alan http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif
If it's an "F",and not an "R",that would stand for FLINT Michigan Assembly plant.In 1967-68-69,they were only manufacturing the Larger GM "B" body:
Chevy Impala-Biscayne-Bel Air-Caprice.
Pontiac Catalina-Excutive-Bonneville.
Oldsmobile Delta 88.
blue thunder
05-24-2005, 07:12 PM
Since it is a Muncie M-20 could it be for a GTO because I wouldn't imagine a full size family type car having a 4 on the floor. I quite sure that it is a letter F.
Alan
I'm not up on the Indians much,but I don't think the Flint plant produced the GTO during the date of your transmission.
1967-68 GTO VIN Plant Codes
B=Baltimore,MD
G=Framingham,MA
K=Kansas City,MO
P=Pontiac,MI
Z=Fremont,CA
Family size GM cars could & did receive the Muncie 4SPD back then.
For Chevrolet "B" Body:
*In 1967, 14,600 got the M-20.
*In 1968, 6,596 got the M-20,& 1,052 got the M-21,& Only 124 got the M-22.
blue thunder
05-24-2005, 08:35 PM
Rick,
I guess that pretty much identifies this thing then. It must have come from a 1967 Impala or such.
You have been a big help for me, thanks for all the information about it.
Alan http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
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