Tenney's 64 Wangers GTO...

[Belair62]

UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE...Tenney talked to Jim Wangers recently about this car and the story has some new facts.


I remember my dad speaking of his friend Jim Wangers' GTO. How he'd
feel the blood rush to the back of his head when Jim would get on it.
He'd quote the numbers it achieved in the controversial Car and Driver
magazine test comparing it to the Ferrari GTO. He'd tell me it was the
fastest car on Woodward Avenue.

I remember Jim's GTO in the lot at dad's office, McManus, John and
Adams, when I was four years old. The heat rising from the front
fender wells (of which I paralleled in height at the time), along with
the smell of fuel, oil and rubber. Oh, and it was the first car I'd
heard make those noises.

Feel pretty lucky to have it parked in our garage, today.

Jim ordered it new for the infamous Car and Driver test comparing it to
the Ferrari GTO (11/08/63 Production Manifest states “Delete all
insulation” “Memo 199 Tag Wangers”, among other stuff.). Additionally,
a 421 was installed. Per Jim Wangers, this was a factory effort. The
motor was a stock, big car 421 HO. It was “Bobcatted” at Royal Pontiac
and driven by Jim to Florida for the acceleration chapter of the C&D
road test.

A 389 equipped, nocturne blue pilot GTO was used for the "handling"
portion of evaluation.

The 421 in the red car met w/a bearing issue (#6, per Jim) during
testing and was flat-towed back to Royal by the blue pilot car. A
thankless task, it turns out, as the blue pilot car was crushed (also a
factory effort) shortly upon return. The red car (er, this one), fresh
“Bobcatted” 421 HO in place, was given to Wangers as his demo. It was
never modified beyond this while with Jim.

It was the car to beat on Woodward for a while, I'm told. And drew the
attention of, among others, a Royal Oak Cop named Bill Sherman. Near
the end of the year (08/21/04), Wangers took a new ’65 GTO demo, and
the ‘64 was placed in the showroom at Royal and sold, w/warranty, to
Bill Sherman. As noted, he knew what he was buying (Bill of Sale reads
“Wangers Demo”).

Bill also raced the GTO (at the track). The 421 eventually grenaded
and Bill installed a 428 and ran it some more. Then he parked it for a
while. At some point Bill and Milt Schornack (Royal's wrench) brought
the car back out, this time with a period-correct 421, 12.5 to 1’s,
Lunati solid roller, headers and cowl plenum - along w/a locked diff.
and 4.33's in a 12 bolt - for further track duty.

This is the way the car is currently configured - w/original paint,
interior (except front carpet) and 44K on the clock. Bill kept every
scrap of paper the car came with, along with subsequent service
records, bound in a notebook, which is still with the car.

Bill passed away, and his widow sold the car a decade, or so, ago to a
fellow in New Jersey. It is he who I pestered into, thankfully,
sending it along to me, recently.

It's a bit of a chipped up relic, and has Day 10 (or so) written all
over it. It'd likely be ripe for a resto for some. I sort of like it
as it sits, though.


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[Xplantdad]

Very cool GTO...I love the 64's. What a great story to go along with a very nice car! COngrats on getting it...by the way...leave it "Day 10"... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Lynn]

I think I remember reading that "test" comparison. If I remember correctly, the guys at Car & Driver had virtually no drag race experience. Seems like they got the best time in the Pontiac by starting out in 2nd gear. Complained that there was simply too much "torque multiplication" to start out in first. Guess they never heard of feathering the throttle off the line!!! Yeah, that's how to ring out a muscle car and get the best time. This ring a bell for anyone? Anyone have a copy of the article? I am going completley on memory here, as I would have read this article while in college in the early 70's (had a bunch of car mags on microfiche in the library).

Someone help me out here.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Was this car in Vineland, NJ?

[SamLBInj]

Very Nice! Congrats..!

[Ngtflyr]

Awesome car, great history very cool that you knew some of the people involved, looks great in pictures. IMHO you shouldn't restore it.

[mike s]

awesome GTO http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif,my old man always wanted a 64-67 GTO when i was a kid probably would have traded me in for 1 lol http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[GTO_DON]

Marlin,I think its the car Conte's Corvettes had in the back of the shop. vineland nj.

[BlownAway]

that is an awesome piece......I wonder if thats the GTO that Wangers used to sucker guys with...they would tool around to the cruise spots or hang outs and sucker guys into races...what they would do (Wangers) was get them to bet against a bone stock GTO and pull the "HOTTER" one out after they made their wagers...this story was told by Wangers himself....it thats the one....you have indeed a very special car....

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

That's what I thought Don, found via a newspaper ad in Phila?

[Tenney]

Thanks, gents.

Yep, the car spent past 15 (or so) years in Vineland, Marlin. Was found through another dealer, I'm told.

Heard same story re: this car, Blown Away. Though wasn't there as a witness.

Flipped through Hot Rod mags and stuff in school, too, Lynn. Don't have the C&D issue handy, though "torque multiplication" still owns those Schwinn-inspired redlines.

[BillD]

Great car just the way it is. Don't restore it.

[AMANOCC]

I agree, car is perfect the way it is

[GTO_DON]

Who put the cowl plenum air cleaner on it? I did not see it on the car when I looked at it down there. How did you get him to sell it?? I asked him lots of times but he said no. Then I heard he was telling people he wanted 100k for it. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[Verne_Frantz]

Outstanding car Tenny!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
What a piece of real history from the beginning of the musclecar days http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif
Please keep it just the way it is..................but it's ok if you want to remove a little rubber from the rear tires once in awhile........

Love the car! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

Verne

[Tenney]

Thanks, Verne. Per Paul Zazarine's book, Don, Milt/Royal installed the cowl plenum, among other "performance experiments", in '64. Though likely had to remove to sell w/warranty end 'o year to Bill Sherman. Comes right off for "stock" look w/block-off plate on firewall.

[Lynn]

Tenney:

Do you remember what issue of Car and Driver? I would like to run one down. I have a 1968 Car & Driver with a comparo test of a 68 Z/28 and Tunnel Port 302 Mustang. It is awesome reading. Sam Posey rung out both cars on the track. Z/28 was loaded with console and power steering, four wheel disc brakes, cross ram and TI ignition. Prepped by GM. Ran a 13.71 on the E 70 bias ply tires (looked like Suzuki tires, according to the author, expecially next to the F 60 15 tires stuffed in the Mustang wheel wells).

Any one remember what issue?

BTW, I agree, I wouldn't change a thing on this car.

Lynn

[Lynn]

March 64 issue of Car and Driver. Entire article is avialable for viewing:

http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclecars/general/musclecars-articles.shtml

[Tenney]

Cool, Lynn. Been a bit since I'd flipped through that article. "It is, incidentally, a very pleasant car to go off the road in, provided you don't catch a finger in the whirling spokes of the steering wheel" seems an interesting item of test critera.

An aside, the "correspondent" the article referenced, Roger Proulx, was a copywriter at McManus who worked with my Dad and Jim. Roger penned, among others, the ad that featured an image of an empty garage at night with the headline: "There's a Tiger loose in the streets". Pretty popular in the day, I'm told.

Btw, I read the Posey/Tunnel Port/Cross Ram test in the school library a few years back. Weren't the meats on the Boss some trick one-offs and they couldn't score a set for the Z to even things up (been a while)?

[Lynn]

YOu are exactly right. The "rules" were each camp could prepare the cars with anything available over the counter to the general public. That is why the Camaro had 4 wheel discs and the crossram. The Car & Driver guys balked at the sight of the Goodyears, especially since the paint around the wheel wells was blistering around the wheel wells, so they contacted Goodyear who told them they didn't make an F60 15 yet. Ford guy steps up and says, sure they do, how many do you want?

Pretty good reading. I need to dig that mag out and scan the article so all can see. Sam Posey was really entertaining. What fun.

I must have been thinking of another magazine that tested the early GTO. I specifically remember the jokers starting out in 2nd gear to keep from frying the tires in some magazine test. Sure thought it was that one. I do have a line on some older mags, and if I run across the March 64 Car and Driver one I will certainly pass it on to you.

Lynn

[Tenney]

Already have a copy, Lynn, thanks. Know where it is but my decimal system isn't as handy as Dewey's. Bit of a pack rat, I guess. Thanks for the link, though. Good to give it another read.

Some cool notes from old Goat/Pontiac tests here:
http://www.angelfire.com/on/geebjen/roadtest.html

[MrsBillyBobcat]

Congratulations Tenney! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif That is a great GTO! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

I am too young to remember that car back in '64, but I was there when Bill Sherman and Milt brought the car out in the late 80's and when these photos were shot (my husband Bill owns the turquoise and white '69 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif).

Rita http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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[MrsBillyBobcat]

[ QUOTE ]
I wonder if thats the GTO that Wangers used to sucker guys with...they would tool around to the cruise spots or hang outs and sucker guys into races...what they would do (Wangers) was get them to bet against a bone stock GTO and pull the "HOTTER" one out after they made their wagers...this story was told by Wangers himself....

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I was not around back then, but have heard that story several times. I seem to remember the cars being "white" and a later model ('66 or '67), but I'm not sure. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif I'll ask my husband tomorrow http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Rita http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Tenney]

Thanks, Rita. That RAV is one of my all-time favs - have a cool scale replica of it. Cars look okay side-by-side, don't they?

[MrsBillyBobcat]

[ QUOTE ]
That RAV is one of my all-time favs - have a cool scale replica of it. Cars look okay side-by-side, don't they?

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Yes, they do http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Bill has them next to each other in his display case (these are models he built years ago) http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

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[MrsBillyBobcat]

[ QUOTE ]
that is an awesome piece......I wonder if thats the GTO that Wangers used to sucker guys with...they would tool around to the cruise spots or hang outs and sucker guys into races...what they would do (Wangers) was get them to bet against a bone stock GTO and pull the "HOTTER" one out after they made their wagers...this story was told by Wangers himself....it thats the one....you have indeed a very special car....

[/ QUOTE ]

That was a pair of white (with black vinyl top) '67 GTO's that they did that with. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Tenney]

Cool bookends. Know where Bill came across the '64?

[Big Injun Dave]

No doubt this '64 GTO is one of the most significant cars of the Musclecar Era. Not only was the GTO the original American musclecar (some Mopar guys may argue), this '64 GTO put a young magazine, Car & Driver on the map.
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[Belair62]

Pretty cool car !! I think Tenney kinda likes it too !!!

[MrsBillyBobcat]

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Cool bookends. Know where Bill came across the '64?

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Tenney,

That is a 1:24th scale model that he built. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Rita http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Tenney]

[ QUOTE ]
Who put the cowl plenum air cleaner on it? I did not see it on the car when I looked at it down there. How did you get him to sell it?? I asked him lots of times but he said no. Then I heard he was telling people he wanted 100k for it. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

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Per Jim Wangers, the motor was a stock, big car 421 HO with a Bobcat kit while the car was with him (new thru 08/64). No headers, cowl plenum, etc.

Been told by others and have read that the cowl plenum and headers were built/installed by Milt, along with present 12.5 to 1, Lunati solid roller 421. Not sure when or in what sequence these items were fitted, exactly.

[Tenney]

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Cool bookends. Know where Bill came across the '64?

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Tenney,

That is a 1:24th scale model that he built. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Rita http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Cool, Rita. Thanks.

[JoeG]

Those tests caused a big stir with the guys I cruised with back when-------------- http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif piece of automotive History---Glad to see it almost in person http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[69sixpackbee]

That is one fine car, 421, 3 deuces, RED, HELL YA!!!!!!, and yes most Mopar guys would argue but we do that all the time anyway!

[Tenney]

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A 421 HO was fitted at the factory or Royal Pontiac (depends on who you ask).



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Well if you ask Jim Wangers, as I had the good fortune to be able to do most recently, the 421 HO swap was, in fact, a factory effort.

Oh, and it spun the #6 rod bearing during testing. Was flat-towed back to Royal by the blue GTO pilot car (which was 348 powered). The blue pilot car was crushed (also a factory effort) shortly upon return. The red car (er, this one), fresh "Bobcatted" 421 HO in place, was given to Jim as his demo. It was never modified beyond this while with Jim.

[55chevy]

awesome piece of Muscle Car history.. you are a lucky man http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Tenney]

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Was flat-towed back to Royal by the blue GTO pilot car (which was 348 powered).

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er, that be 389/348 powered.

And thanks, Ed. Might feel even luckier if I'd invented it, built it or dominated Woodward in it. But that we had an empty spot in our garage for it has me feeling lucky all the same.

[Tenney]

Had a fellow ask if there were any other GTO's w/factory fitted 421's. I figured not many, if any - this being the only one I know of. Don't know for sure, though. Anyone aware of any others?

[Tenney]

The good folks at Muscle Car Review swung by to shoot some pics for a story they're doing on dealer cars. August issue should hit the stands any 'ol day they say.

[agtw31]

anybody remember what happened to that '69 Judge Wangers had some guy drive out on Woodward,and got fenderred by a hemi GTX?

[PeteLeathersac]

Whttp://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gifW...great car, amazing that it still exists and really love how it's a post car!!!

I remember reading those stories too...Wangers sure had some 'hair raising' experiences!.

~ Pete
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[Tenney]

Thanks, Pete.

[sixtiesmuscle]

Did you really mean "factory fitted" 421s?

[Tenney]

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Did you really mean "factory fitted" 421s?

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Yes, do you know of one (or more)?

[Stefano]

That is one bad a$$ package you have there Tenney. How does it run today compared to your old L88?

[Tenney]

Thanks, Stefano. There's more cam, compression and gear in the Goat, though a bit tough to compare as I've never tried it w/proper meats out back. That, and I really don't grab it by the throat as fiercely as maybe some of the other stuff - but it's not boring.

[sixtiesmuscle]

I thought the 421 was installed at Royal, not at the factory.

[Tenney]

Jim Wangers told me the car went from the line to engineering over a weekend for the 421 HO install - then went to Royal to be "Bobcatted".

Per Jim, this motor was damaged in Florida during the C&D test, and replaced with another 421 HO upon return to Royal - again by Pontiac engineers.

There's a Royal receipt dated 11/17/67 (signed by service tech: "Milt") for the 428 that's in the car now. 9770716 heads built '63-'64, so could be original to the car?

Still curious if there were any others done. Jim says the blue car was a 389. That he also said so few knew of the 421 install in this car (three guys plus the two in engineering) - and the level of approval it took to make it happen - seems unlikely there are many, if any.

[sixtiesmuscle]

Very cool story, and, a great car. I must have been misinformed a few years ago when it was for sale. I'm a big Royal fan, and, yours is one of the best.

[Tenney]

Thanks. I'd thought same prior to speaking w/Jim about the "Memo 198 Tag Wangers" printed along the bottom of the build sheet. Listening to him tell the stories of his time with the car - best retold by him, btw - couldn't have been cooler.

[bashton]

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anybody remember what happened to that '69 Judge Wangers had some guy drive out on Woodward,and got fenderred by a hemi GTX?

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I believe Mr. Wangers still owns this car.

[Charley Lillard]

Can I have it ?

[Tenney]

[ QUOTE ]
Can I have it ?

[/ QUOTE ]

I ran that one Kibbles 'n Bits-style 'til Joe finally handed 'er over!

[Tenney]

Quick update ... the '64 has a brief cameo in the GM employee discount commercial airing currently - so it's still doing its part for the GM cause after 44 years ...!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVVANPaH5SE

[Xplantdad]

I saw that after my wife pointed it out! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[COPO 70 RS/Z28]

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[COPO 70 RS/Z28]

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[Tenney]

Thanks Carl!

[Xplantdad]

That's just too cool!

[Tenney]

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That's just too cool!

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Thanks, Bruce.

Brief caption for the pics Carl so kindly posted ... Scott Tiemann finished the car early this month (big credit for the 'cool' due this fellow!), went to Meadow Brook, the GM shoot, and then its original stomping grounds - Woodward (slicks for the occasion).

[COPO 70 RS/Z28]

More Photos of Tenny's Awesome ride

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[mockingbird812]

Magnificent! What a beauty - what a piece of history. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[Tenney]

Thanks, Sam … (not that I have much to do with the car's beauty or its history!).

One of the cool things about having the ‘64 at Meadow Brook and Woodward are the stories about it you hear from the folks who were there - and how many of those folks there actually are! They’re all grown-ups these days, but you get the impression that - in addition to the impact made by the Car and Driver test - Jim Wangers’ “hands-on marketing” on Woodward Avenue was no small success on a local level.

A fellow at Meadow Brook told me he was in engineering when the car was done. I asked if he did any of the work and he said no, but remembered it well – and mentioned he was “sworn to secrecy”. I got the sense he was pleased it was still around and doing okay.

Had Scott Tiemann do a bit of (er, lot of?) a clean-up on the car. I’d wanted a small dose or two of rust repaired (rust isn’t patina for me). Turned out pretty much every panel had been touched up here and there, and the underside had been painted black – no major damage of any sort, an old warrior for sure, but not so much a time capsule, per se.

Was tempted to retain the cool hot rod stuff that Milt had done to the car over the years for Bill Sherman - I did, it’s just packed away for now – but it seemed the car’s most unique history is as it left Pontiac Engineering and then Royal for Florida. Jim Wangers pitched this direction - and rightfully so, I think.

Hypothetically, if the factory only made one ZL-1 powered Vette, and it was used by GM for some notable publicity – and then later sent to Baldwin-Motion for a hit of mountain-motored Phase III, what do you do if/when it comes time to clean it up?

Today the ’64 has a new driver’s side quarter panel, a new floor pan piece near the driver’s foot well and a new windshield. It has two new front fender wells - as the originals were cut away to accommodate the headers - and a correctly dated 421 HO block. The heads and intake pre-date the build by a few months, may be the originals, and so were retained – plus Milt had done some nice work on those heads! It has an M-21 as installed by engineering, and the original 10-bolt is back in its place. 3.91’s would be engineering-correct, though retained the 4.33’s that were in there as they’re ’64 dated, I’ve a Royal service receipt for their install – and they’re pretty fun. Aside from these items and the new carpet and headliner, it’s all the old stuff - meticulously restored. Scott even cleans and/or re-plates the hardware!

Really would’ve liked to have dropped by the SCR, as well, and checked in w/some old friends, recent ones and scored some fresh ones - sounds (and looks!) like a blast.

Had Scott hauling the car around all month, figured it was time to quit asking - though bet he'd have had some fun, too!

Cheers. And thanks again to those who shared all the cool SCR pics and flicks ...

[COPO 70 RS/Z28]

Wangers at the wheel in Tenney's awesome 64 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj121/70COPORSZ28/IMG_6246.jpg

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[Tenney]

"Total fraud" (but in a good way?) ...

http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicles/hrdp_0801_top_100_hot_rods/1966_batmobile.html

[mockingbird812]

Tenney - rest assured that the Ferrari was bone stock and not tweaked one bit (If Enzo's boys had anything to do with it http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif )! Well at least the General Lee took first! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif

All in FUN! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

Your Goat ..... <font color="red"> ROCKS!!!!!! </font>

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Can-I-Have-It.gif

[Tenney]

Not only was it not tweaked - it was not there ...!

The 250 Goat was a no-show in Florida, Sam, so Car and Driver said they referred to #'s from a previous test.

What's not to like about the General Lee?! That thing doled out some championship-level lawn jobs in its day!

btw, the 2nd dose 'o Woodward pics Carl posted (the better ones!) were shot by Keith Seymore.

[Tenney]

Came across this brief clip featuring a quick shot or two during Joe's reign with a pretty nice 250 Goat ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4smXEFijfXc

[mockingbird812]

Congrats Tenney!!!! December 2008 Muscle Car Enthusiast COVER http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif !!!!!

Way to go http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif and well deserved. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif article.


http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[Tenney]

Hey, thanks Sam!

[SSjeff427]

How in the world does a Baldwin Motion http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif or Yenko car not make that list? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[olredalert]

-------On the list of most famous musclecars, this GTO ranks way up within probably the top five, IMHO!!!! Im not sure Wangers wasnt right with his price evaluation.......Bill S

[COPO 70 RS/Z28]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

Mennace!!!!!!!!!!

[mockingbird812]

Congrats (Again!) Tenney. MCE's latest (April edition, I think, with a red '69 goat 'vert on the cover) has a nice one pager with his car and Jim Wangers standing next to it. I believe it is a promotional advertisement for Jim W's books. I'll get it out tonight and scan the page and post it.

Very special car you have there Tenney! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Tenney]

And thanks again, Sam!

[Tenney]

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[Tenney]

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[Tenney]

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/64ROYALGTO025copy.jpg

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http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/64ROYALGTO4001copy.jpg

[PeteLeathersac]

[ QUOTE ]
...On the list of most famous musclecars, this GTO ranks way up within probably the top five...

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm w/ you on that statement!.

Always great to see more details of this amazing Post car!.

Is there any known history to the cowl intake hole the pics show being patched up?.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif
~ Pete

[mockingbird812]

Nice stuff Tenney. She looks real good! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[JoeG]

Where it all started.......... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Tenney]

[ QUOTE ]


Is there any known history to the cowl intake hole the pics show being patched up?.


[/ QUOTE ]

Per Jim Wangers, Pete, sometime after his ownership the firewall was modified for cowl induction. I've read this was done by Milt Schornack. I've seen photos of three holes cut into the firewall. When I got the car, they'd been transformed into the opening pictured.

[Tenney]

[ QUOTE ]
Nice stuff Tenney. She looks real good! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks, Sam - just figured out how to post pics (nice map, Bruce!) and kinda over did it ...

[COPO 70 RS/Z28]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[Tenney]

Here ya go, Pete ...

From a Paul Zazarine 03/89 MCR write-up -

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/2.jpg

As it showed up a few years back -

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/64ROYALGTO079.jpg

[Tenney]

Jim mentioned he only allowed the C&amp;D team a few passes on slicks, fearing a blown diff. Something he later confirmed for himself on Woodward, electing to return to street meats.

Did Bill Sherman have a similar experience ...?

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/64Slicks.jpg

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/64RRdiff.jpg

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/65.jpg

[Tenney]

The 428 ...

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/64ROYALGTO107.jpg

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/Milt.jpg

[Tenney]

Making room for rubber ...?

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/64ROYALGTO2047.jpg

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/64ROYALGTO2052.jpg

circa 05/90 by "66GTO Jim" ...

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/olGoat.jpg

[Tenney]

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/64StatementofSale.jpg

What happened ...?!

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/65motorwork.jpg

[mockingbird812]

Tenney those are some terrific documents http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif . What a story they tell!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Tenney]

Mr. Wangers at the helm by David Newhardt.

Best time in my time w/the car so far ...

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/64CDGTO.jpg

[Tenney]

[ QUOTE ]
Tenney those are some terrific documents http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif . What a story they tell!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Have a whole three-ring notebook full, Sam. Bill Sherman liked to keep track of stuff (good cop, I guess!).

[bwag]

Did you notice the labor rate on the repair orders ? $6.00 an hour. Looks like it got a rear end and engine rebuild under warranty. That is the same flat rate we had at the Pontiac dealer I worked for in 1966.

[Tenney]

Six bucks?! Guess Scott's dedication to authenticity only goes so far ...! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Would $349.45 have been a decent deal for an installed 428 short block circa 11/17/67?

[COPO_Anders]

That´s an awesome car you got there ! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

I would just like to share this GTO-song i found in the Aug 1976 Cars magazine.

http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq85/COPO_Anders/GTO-song.jpg

[mockingbird812]

A classic Anders!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif


http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[JoeG]

... http://http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii145/PICCARY/jimwangers.jpg

[Tenney]

[ QUOTE ]

That´s an awesome car you got there ! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

I would just like to share this GTO-song i found in the Aug 1976 Cars magazine.

http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq85/COPO_Anders/GTO-song.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks, Anders!

Jim's book talks about a kid approaching them w/the song. They produced it w/studio musicians and it became somewhat of a hit. Then they had to "assemble" the band Johnny Bravo-style.

[Tenney]

[ QUOTE ]
... http://http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii145/PICCARY/jimwangers.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]

Jim had less hair then.

Pretty sure that Goat was CD Ron Monchak's (think he had one of the '69 T/A ragtops later on, too).



... btw, credit for the 'do wisecrack to the man himself. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[Tenney]

w/Jim's '61 Racecar ...

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/IMG_6015.jpg

[ra6t7gto]

very nice car, i saw it in 86 or 87 in ohio when milt was racing it, i have a few pics of it i will try to find

[Tenney]

Thanks ra6t7gto, it'd be cool to check those out!

[Tenney]

On its way to MCACN ...

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/5-1.jpg

[Xplantdad]

A quarter mile at a time! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

[bashton]

[ QUOTE ]
On its way to MCACN ...

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/5-1.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member
www.mcacn.com (http://www.mcacn.com)

[Tenney]

In good company at MCACN '09, by Keith Seymore ...

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/100_9634.jpg

Thanks Bob and team!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[bashton]

[ QUOTE ]
In good company at MCACN '09, by Keith Seymore ...

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/100_9634.jpg

Thanks Bob and team!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

It was great having you, the '64 and the other Royal cars at the show; what a sight it was to see all that history all grouped together! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

[Tenney]

Jim Wangers had added a wood dash applique and steering wheel hub when the car was with him. It came apart during clean-up, and Scott insisted we put it back in ... here's an action shot of JW laying his JH on the hub ...

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/JH.jpg

The car wasn't built w/splitters, per production manifest, but were on it when I got it. Mr. Wangers had them installed for some Woodward marketing, hoping to entice an extra check on an option sheet or two ... they're back now, as well ...

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/Returnofsplitters.jpg

Clean-up complete (for now?).

[Tenney]

The protagonists ...

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/10.jpg

[Tenney]

Guessing it may've seen worse than a little mist in its day ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIBBaoxd6hQ&amp;feature=autofb

Detail shots by skyhigh ...

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/ArtCenter2.jpg

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[MrsBillyBobcat]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tenney</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Guessing it may've seen worse than a little mist in its day ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIBBaoxd6hQ&amp;feature=autofb

Detail shots by skyhigh ...

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/ArtCenter2.jpg

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/ArtCenter3.jpg

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Nice detail shots Tenney! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif


Yes, it did see a lot worse than a little rain...but I swear I NEVER slammed the doors! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg133/carcrazyqt/98bd1b6a-1.jpg

Sorry it's black and white...it's from our club's newsletter (in 1989). I will try to find the original color photo. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif

[Tenney]

[/quote]

Yes, it did see a lot worse than a little rain...but I swear I NEVER slammed the doors! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg133/carcrazyqt/98bd1b6a-1.jpg

Sorry it's black and white...it's from our club's newsletter (in 1989). I will try to find the original color photo. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif

[/quote]

Provenance!

[mockingbird812]

Gee Rita, by my calculations, you would have been in grade school in 1989. But, you look like a grown woman!!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif

[Big Banger]

I have always liked that GTO, it deserved a top quality restoration, very nice!
Are you going to take it to the GTO Nationals in Portland, OR. next year?

[Tenney]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Big Banger</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have always liked that GTO, it deserved a top quality restoration, very nice!
Are you going to take it to the GTO Nationals in Portland, OR. next year? </div></div>

Thanks!

Not sure as yet re: Goat Nats.

[KMOTION]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tenney</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> </div></div>

Yes, it did see a lot worse than a little rain...but I swear I NEVER slammed the doors! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg133/carcrazyqt/98bd1b6a-1.jpg

Sorry it's black and white...it's from our club's newsletter (in 1989). I will try to find the original color photo. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif

[/quote]

Provenance! [/quote]


Hey Rita, Here are some more photos from our great Club Display in 1989 at the Detroit Autorama. I finally figured out how to post pictures on this site. Tenney, I will post some more pix here as I mentioned to you on the PY Forum now that I know how. ............. 66GTO Jim (aka KMOTION)

1st Royal Bobcat GTO
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s304/kmotion/Woodward%20GTO%20Tigers/DetroitAutoramaWGTFeb89001.jpg

Front View
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s304/kmotion/Woodward%20GTO%20Tigers/DetroitAutoramaWGTFeb89002.jpg


Engine showing Ram Air system and headers (note the power steering pump and tach box)
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s304/kmotion/Woodward%20GTO%20Tigers/DetroitAutoramaWGTFeb89003.jpg

1st and last Royal Bobcat GTOs (Sharon Schornack by the 64)
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s304/kmotion/Woodward%20GTO%20Tigers/DetroitAutoramaWGTFeb89009.jpg

[Xplantdad]

Rita and Bill...you should bring your car to MCACN as well! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif

[Tenney]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KMOTION</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Hey Rita, Here are some more photos from our great Club Display in 1989 at the Detroit Autorama. I finally figured out how to post pictures on this site. Tenney, I will post some more pix here as I mentioned to you on the PY Forum now that I know how. ............. 66GTO Jim (aka KMOTION)

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Hey, thanks Jim! These are great!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[Tenney]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xplantdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rita and Bill...you should bring your car to MCACN as well! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif </div></div>

Cars were side-by-side at MCACN too, Bruce!

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/218.jpg

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/220.jpg

[Tenney]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tenney</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/10.jpg
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R.I.P., David E.

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20110327/CARNEWS/110329884

[Xplantdad]

That's sad I remember him from Car and Driver!

[Tenney]

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http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/7.jpg

[mockingbird812]

Good stuff Tenney!

[olredalert]

----I met D.E.D. at a Meadowbrook function one time about 5/6 years ago and he sure seemed like the real thing. A car guy to the Nth degree. R.I.P......Bill S

[Tenney]

GTO vs. GTO, 1964

&quot;The hook on which we hung the magazine.&quot;

I feel pretty lucky to have met Dave (as he introduced himself) last May. A legend whose editorials I'd enjoyed for years - he's Hemmingway to pretty much any automotive journalist you might come across - Dave couldn't have been more accommodating with my questions about my car and the road test (occasionally giving Mr. Wangers grief for slipping him a &quot;ringer&quot;!), while kindly sharing an anecdote or two of his own.

Recalling his writing, our conversations over the course of that weekend (and a few eavesdropped upon), it's tough not to be left with the sense that Mr. Davis made the most of his turn. Good guy. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/burnout.gif

[Tracker1]

&quot;...in purely visceral automotive terms, I remember only that the first Mustang I drove caused me to cut my finger on an exposed sheet metal edge in the trunk, while my first ride in a GTO left me with a feeling like losing my virginity, going into combat and tasting my first draft beer all in about seven seconds.
I remember that the GTO slammed out of the hole like it was being fired from a catapult, that the tach needle slung itself across the dial like a windshield wiper, that the noise from the three two-throat carburetors on that heavy old 389 cubic inch Pontiac V-8 sounded like some awful doomsday Hoover vacuum God sucking up sinners.&quot; - David E. Davis

A gifted man. R.I.P.

[Tenney]

J-Dub beltin' one out on his 85th ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29_UaQHeZJ0&amp;feature=youtu.be

[CR97WS6]

I really like the 64s, cool to see such a documented car

[Tenney]

&quot;Best Paint &amp; Finish&quot; (kinda cool and surprising as we'd registered &quot;display-only&quot;) among some pretty nice stuff - Go, Scott!! -

http://www.elegantcars.com/events/2011-santa-barbara-ca/

Got to drive this time, too ...

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/11.jpg

[Xplantdad]

Awesome!

[Tenney]

Thanks, Bruce! All credit due Mr. Tiemann (and JW for giving him the canvas!).

[COPO 70 RS/Z28]

Cool Tenney is that Jim with you?

[MrsBillyBobcat]

<span style="font-size: 14pt">That's AWESOME Tenney! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif Congrats!</span> <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

Nice to see ya drivin' <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[Tenney]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: COPO 70 RS/Z28</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Cool Tenney is that Jim with you?

</div></div>

Indeed, Carl - letting me drive, for a change!

[Tenney]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MrsBillyBobcat</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-size: 14pt">That's AWESOME Tenney! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif Congrats!</span> <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

Nice to see ya drivin' <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif </div></div>

Thanks, Rita - always a banner day at the helm 'o that rascal! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/burnout.gif

[Keith Seymore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tenney</div><div class="ubbcode-body">&quot;Best Paint &amp; Finish&quot; (kinda cool and surprising as we'd registered &quot;display-only&quot;) among some pretty nice stuff - Go, Scott!! - </div></div>

Congrats, Tenney -

Nice to see that little red car mixin' it up with the big dogs...

Mr Wangers seems to be having a nice time as well (as always), even if he wasn't driving <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif

K

[Tenney]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Keith Seymore</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Congrats, Tenney -

Nice to see that little red car mixin' it up with the big dogs...

Mr Wangers seems to be having a nice time as well (as always), even if he wasn't driving <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif

K
</div></div>

Much appreciated, Keith. Glad to have been invited to share.

Woodward, Van Nuys Blvd. - Mulholland, even - and now making quick work of the damp lawn on a polo field (can't even let the clutch out in the AM - hope they invite musclecars back next year!).

btw, as the merit was for &quot;Best Paint &amp; Preparation&quot;, and my daughter vacuumed the carpets before the car left, thus &quot;preparing&quot; it - she's gone ahead and nationalized the award.

A few pics she snapped on Mulholland -

[Tenney]

...

[Jonnysocko]

You don't see many of those. Good story too.

[Tenney]

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/SB_ConcoursDay2-52.jpg

Getting the grass off the tires ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_3xEPACPVQ

[Tenney]

Jim and Dean (and Musso and Frank) ...

Mr. Wangers and the feller he hired to build the Monkeemobile, Dean Jeffries. Good fun sitting at the grown-ups table today -

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/IMG_0002.jpg

[Xplantdad]

That's great!

[Tenney]

Found a spot ...

http://www.speedandmotion.com/pictures/rodeoconcours2012/index.html

w/some more cool stuff in Burbank last weekend ...

http://www.speedandmotion.com/pictures/burbankcarclassic2012/index.html

[Tenney]

Amidst cool stuff at Palos Verdes ...

http://public.fotki.com/dealwisl/the-20th-annual-pal/

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/IMG_0040_zps73307a82.jpg

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/IMG_0694_zps5800b834.jpg

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/TenneyF/IMG_0733_zpsee202ddb.jpg

[Xplantdad]

Wow...that's really cool!

[olredalert]

----Hey! Vic likes it......Bill S

[Tenney]

Guess the car's not stock in that shot, Bill!

[Keith Seymore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tenney</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Amidst cool stuff at Palos Verdes ...</div></div>

That lil' red Pontiac is in some pretty highfalutin' company, Tenney <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif

K

[Tenney]

[/quote]
That lil' red Pontiac is in some pretty highfalutin' company, Tenney <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif
[/quote]

Just said we were with Mr. Wangers, Keith!

There were some nice musclecars on hand, too; good balanced diet of stuff ...!

http://www.speedandmotion.com/pictures/palosverdesconcours2012/index.html

[Tenney]

Needs a 421 ...! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/burnout.gif

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/suvs/1207_2013_bmw_x1_first_drive/

[Tenney]

Jim at Palos Verdes (and some other cool cars and folks!) ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZfvO1NNBwo

[Keith Seymore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tenney</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jim at Palos Verdes (and some other cool cars and folks!) ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZfvO1NNBwo </div></div>

Thanks for posting; Mr Wangers is still 'the man';

Guess which car was my favorite?

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif

K

[Tenney]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Keith Seymore</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Guess which car was my favorite?

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif

K
</div></div>

The Voisin? (though maybe not once that feller turns the interior into a jacket and underpants!) <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/burnout.gif

[Tenney]

50th Anniversary of the GTO and the Muscle Car at the Petersen (coincidentally, the Car and Driver GTO turns 50 just a few days after the event). Swing by if you're local ...!

[Tenney]

Tuned-up flyer ...

[Keith Seymore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tenney</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...(coincidentally, the Car and Driver GTO turns 50 just a few days after the event).
</div></div>

Looks like fun!

My car also has a birthday coming up; it turns 49 a week from today!

K

[Tenney]

[/quote]

My car also has a birthday coming up; it turns 49 a week from today!

[/quote]

Awesome car, Keith - standing the test 'o time (and never been under the knife!)!

[GaryC]

My first car was a Burgundy 64 GTO 4 speed hardtop I bought from a high school friend. $125.00. I was stoked when I finally went to pick it up. It ran but had a spun bearing. There was an old guy that worked as a mechanic at the gas station up the street from my parents house that had a 65 Tri-power and he helped me, actually, I helped him install a 67 400. Drove it for awhile and got into too much trouble with it growing up in Atlanta and my dad took it to work one day where he managed a business that shredded cars and that was that. My flavor is Chevy, but owning that 64 GTO opened my eyes to all hotrods and factory muscle 60's and 70's. That Jim Wangers car has always left a mark on me. What a nice piece of musclecar history. Thanks for those pics and story.

[Tenney]

Your Dad shredded your Goat?! One of the fun parts of looking after this car has been the memories it'll sometimes stir in others - sorry about that one, though! Credit due for getting his point across, though, I guess!

[GaryC]

Yes, he did make his point. Shortly after that, I hit the bricks and didn't talk to any family members for 30 years.

[Tenney]

Darn, Gary ... well plenty to chat about beyond &quot;how was your day?&quot; after that sort of moratorium, right? Sharp Z, btw!

[GaryC]

That was my first muscle car. I can still see it fresh in my mind even to this day. Some say you never forget your first love. Last time I was in Atlanta I went to look for the guy I bought it from in my high school and his mom said he was murdered. She didn't go into details.

[Tenney]

Anyone able to mix-in the Pete this Sunday, Jim does his presentation/Q&amp;A at 10:30AM.

https://www.facebook.com/GTOCelebration

Savage cake from the cool SD Goat crew last Sunday ...

[Tenney]

Troll under the (6th St.) bridge ...

pic/clip by Las -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDoGnAO0Dlo

[Xplantdad]

Very cool!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif

[Lynn]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GaryC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That was my first muscle car. I can still see it fresh in my mind even to this day. Some say you never forget your first love. Last time I was in Atlanta I went to look for the guy I bought it from in my high school and his mom said he was murdered. She didn't go into details. </div></div>

And we have Hallmark moment #2.

Back to the car: hard to beat a 64 GTO. Didn't one of the car mags have one that had a transplanted 421 SD?
Forgive my Pontiac ignorance, but are the 389 and 421 pretty much the same externally?

[Tenney]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lynn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Didn't one of the car mags have one that had a transplanted 421 SD?
Forgive my Pontiac ignorance, but are the 389 and 421 pretty much the same externally? </div></div>

Maybe? This one had a 421 HO installed in engineering and Bobcatted at Royal for the Car and Driver test.

Yes, 389 and 421 are dimensionally the same (likewise other Pontiac V-8's - no &quot;big blocks&quot;).

[Keith Seymore]

Nice clip, Ten.

K

[Pont440]

Hey Tenney,

Thought I'd add some pics from Jim's(Wangers) 85th Birthday Bash back in 2011. I want to show the fellas the attention to detail that Scott Tiemann gave to this fine SUPERCAR!

-Don (photos courtesy of my dad)

http://i1319.photobucket.com/albums/t678/ds_schiller/DSCN6812_zpsa63929a6.jpg (http://s1319.photobucket.com/user/ds_schiller/media/DSCN6812_zpsa63929a6.jpg.html)

http://i1319.photobucket.com/albums/t678/ds_schiller/DSCN6811_zps41a009d4.jpg (http://s1319.photobucket.com/user/ds_schiller/media/DSCN6811_zps41a009d4.jpg.html)

http://i1319.photobucket.com/albums/t678/ds_schiller/DSCN6810_zpsc37911f5.jpg (http://s1319.photobucket.com/user/ds_schiller/media/DSCN6810_zpsc37911f5.jpg.html)

http://i1319.photobucket.com/albums/t678/ds_schiller/DSCN6809_zpsa5e455f9.jpg (http://s1319.photobucket.com/user/ds_schiller/media/DSCN6809_zpsa5e455f9.jpg.html)

http://i1319.photobucket.com/albums/t678/ds_schiller/DSCN6807_zps18dfa035.jpg (http://s1319.photobucket.com/user/ds_schiller/media/DSCN6807_zps18dfa035.jpg.html)

http://i1319.photobucket.com/albums/t678/ds_schiller/DSCN6787_zps1c8d7c89.jpg (http://s1319.photobucket.com/user/ds_schiller/media/DSCN6787_zps1c8d7c89.jpg.html)

http://i1319.photobucket.com/albums/t678/ds_schiller/DSCN6777_zps6bca3c9b.jpg (http://s1319.photobucket.com/user/ds_schiller/media/DSCN6777_zps6bca3c9b.jpg.html)

http://i1319.photobucket.com/albums/t678/ds_schiller/DSCN6823_zps57d80487.jpg (http://s1319.photobucket.com/user/ds_schiller/media/DSCN6823_zps57d80487.jpg.html)

http://i1319.photobucket.com/albums/t678/ds_schiller/DSCN6819_zpsfa7110c1.jpg (http://s1319.photobucket.com/user/ds_schiller/media/DSCN6819_zpsfa7110c1.jpg.html)

http://i1319.photobucket.com/albums/t678/ds_schiller/DSCN6815_zpsec0266a0.jpg (http://s1319.photobucket.com/user/ds_schiller/media/DSCN6815_zpsec0266a0.jpg.html)

http://i1319.photobucket.com/albums/t678/ds_schiller/DSCN6793_zps08662b0c.jpg (http://s1319.photobucket.com/user/ds_schiller/media/DSCN6793_zps08662b0c.jpg.html)

http://i1319.photobucket.com/albums/t678/ds_schiller/DSCN6790_zps41174711.jpg (http://s1319.photobucket.com/user/ds_schiller/media/DSCN6790_zps41174711.jpg.html)

http://i1319.photobucket.com/albums/t678/ds_schiller/DSCN6786_zps5a06ecd3.jpg (http://s1319.photobucket.com/user/ds_schiller/media/DSCN6786_zps5a06ecd3.jpg.html)

[mockingbird812]

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif very nice!

[Tenney]

Cool, thanks gents! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif And thanks Don (and your Dad!) for the awesome pics - that was a fun day! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/burnout.gif

[Keith Seymore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pont440</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey Tenney,

Thought I'd add some pics from Jim's(Wangers) 85th Birthday Bash back in 2011. I want to show the fellas the attention to detail that Scott Tiemann gave to this fine SUPERCAR!

-Don (photos courtesy of my dad)</div></div>

Whoa! Very nice. If Scott was there he'd wear out a linen cloth wiping on that red car.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tenney</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Cool, thanks gents! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif And thanks Don (and your Dad!) for the awesome pics - that was a fun day! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/burnout.gif </div></div>

You guys are having too much fun. I spent the evening with an axe chipping the ice dams off my roof.

K

[Tenney]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Keith Seymore</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Whoa! Very nice. If Scott was there he'd wear out a linen cloth wiping on that red car.

</div></div>

[Keith Seymore]

LOL. When we were parked next to each other at MCACN I finally told him &quot;STOP!!&quot;

He was kicking up so much white lint I had to wipe MY car off...

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif

K

[Tenney]

Before/After MCACN '14 (by Diego &amp; MCACN site, respectively) - another awesome event ...!

[Charley Lillard]

Happy Anniversary Tenney

[Xplantdad]

Dang... you were at MCACN, too! Sorry I missed meeting you.

[Tenney]

Thanks, Charley - MCACN was the final &quot;50th&quot; event; and the proper encore!

Same, Bruce. Had to hightail it early Sunday as the Kid had to be back in class Monday AM. Next time!!

Here's one from Carlisle I came across on the Hot Rod site featuring one of the fathers of the GTO, Bill Collins ...

[Charley Lillard]

Tenney signed up here 12/31/2001

[ds1]

Got to see it at Carlisle this year. Saw it race at Maple Grove once at an all Pontiac event after our 64 Convertible was finished. Also talked to an original owner of a 64 Convertible from Ohio. It was a nice event for Carlisle.

[Tenney]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tenney signed up here 12/31/2001 </div></div>

Hey, cool! Seems like yesterday, or so.

[Tenney]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ds1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Got to see it at Carlisle this year. Saw it race at Maple Grove once at an all Pontiac event after our 64 Convertible was finished. Also talked to an original owner of a 64 Convertible from Ohio. It was a nice event for Carlisle. </div></div>

Looks like a great event! Had to sit this one out, unfortunately, though Scott kindly brought the car over to share.

Cool you got to see it run ...!

[earntaz]

Look at that Goat planting the grabbers ...

[Tenney]

Jim Wangers' Royal Pontiac presentation at the Automobile Driving Museum (Jonathan Ortiz pic) ...

[Xplantdad]

Very cool!

[Tenney]

It's a really cool presentation, Bruce. Jim was tasked by Pontiac with selecting a dealership that would serve as an outlet for special hi-perf. cars, parts and technologies - kind of a precursor to Yenko, Berger, Nickey, Mr. Norms, etc. - and he filled us in on why Royal was chosen - shared some cool first-hand stories about how things went along the way - and then how and why it went away. Glad to have had the chance to attend that one!

[Xplantdad]

Sounds like it was way cool. Did anyone video it? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif

[PeteLeathersac]

Very cool stuff!
Don't miss Jim Wangers singing Lil' GTO...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29_UaQHeZJ0

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
~ Pete

[Tenney]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xplantdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sounds like it was way cool. Did anyone video it? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif </div></div>

Hope so, Bruce, that'd be cool. Was told the museum taped the audio and are going to build a podcast with Jim's PowerPoint presentation. Will report back w/that if I come across it.

Here's one from the 50th at the same spot last year - projector threw a rod, but JW winged it like a champ ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKz32o63AVg

[Tenney]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeteLeathersac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Very cool stuff!
Don't miss Jim Wangers singing Lil' GTO...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29_UaQHeZJ0

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
~ Pete </div></div>

Action-packed!!

[Xplantdad]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tenney</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xplantdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sounds like it was way cool. Did anyone video it? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif </div></div>

Hope so, Bruce, that'd be cool. Was told the museum taped the audio and are going to build a podcast with Jim's PowerPoint presentation. Will report back w/that if I come across it.

Here's one from the 50th at the same spot last year - projector threw a rod, but JW winged it like a champ ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKz32o63AVg </div></div>

Very cool...thanks for sharing that!

[Keith Seymore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tenney</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=Xplantdad]

Here's one from the 50th at the same spot last year - projector threw a rod, but JW winged it like a champ ... </div></div>

LOL - you sure it wasn't a spun bearing?

K

[Tenney]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Keith Seymore</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tenney</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=Xplantdad]

Here's one from the 50th at the same spot last year - projector threw a rod, but JW winged it like a champ ... </div></div>

LOL - you sure it wasn't a spun bearing?

K </div></div>

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

[Tenney]

Happy 89th ...!

[Tenney]

Per Jim, they borrowed the car (not running at the time) from Officer Sherman for this ad; airbrushing-out the B-pillar to marry-in w/the other cars in the row ...

[olredalert]

----Does the hood tach seem to be an incorrect shape? Maybe it was airbrushed in as well?......Bill S

[Tenney]

Looks a little taller and rounder, though maybe due to reflection in the hood? Not much of a shadow under the '68, either ...

[Keith Seymore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tenney</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looks a little taller and rounder, though maybe due to reflection in the hood? Not much of a shadow under the '68, either ... </div></div>

Agree - appears to be &quot;floating&quot; a little bit.

Man!! Mr Wangers looks great! Perhaps lost a little weight?

In any case I can only hope to be as sharp at 89 years of age.

K

Mid 1980's:

[img}http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/img037_zpscji91csj.jpg[/img]

[Keith Seymore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Keith Seymore</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Mid 1980's:

</div></div>

Unbelieveable. It took 2 seconds to find the mistake in that string and correct it, and in that length of time my edit capability timed out.

(rolls eyes).

Trying again:

[img]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/img037_zpscji91csj.jpg

[Tenney]

Cool Royal/Motion combo - definition of &quot;hybrid&quot; circa '67?!

[Tenney]

Milt at the helm ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqGB5OjRsic

[Tenney]

One more Milt ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKtA40oBGek

[Xplantdad]

That is cool! (Times two) <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[Tenney]

RIP Art Fitzpatrick - just a day away from his 97th.

[Tenney]

Fitz &amp; Van put the wide in Wide-Track ...

[Tenney]

What the guy who restored the Car and Driver GTO restored in his spare time ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4DcPyMkY64

(and MCACN just keeps out-MCACNing itself!!)

[Lopey69]

Beautiful car.

[Tenney]

Happy 90th, Mr. Wangers! w/Dave's Newhardt &amp; Anderson ...

[BJCHEV396]

A long interesting life well lived!Happy birthday Mr. W.!

[Tenney]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BJCHEV396</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A long interesting life well lived!Happy birthday Mr. W.! </div></div>

Mike Plewa pic ...

[Tenney]

Worldwide Goats ...!

[Xplantdad]

Very nice!

[scuncio]

Wangers has lived one hell of a life! I bet he's happy to see your car has survived so nicely.

[Tenney]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scuncio</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wangers has lived one hell of a life! I bet he's happy to see your car has survived so nicely. </div></div>

Indeed ...!

[Tenney]

Cool original-owner '64 Royal Bobcat Goat captured by Adam ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8_O--sgdtw&amp;feature=youtu.be

[Tenney]

Excellent write-up on a time-capsule Royal '65 by the guy who knows it best ...

http://www.hotrod.com/articles/5000-mile...w-still-family/ (http://www.hotrod.com/articles/5000-mile-unrestored-1965-pontiac-gto-dragstrip-warrior-new-still-family/)

[Xplantdad]

That's really cool Tenney, thanks for sharing!

[Keith Seymore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tenney</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Excellent write-up on a time-capsule Royal '65 by the guy who knows it best ...

http://www.hotrod.com/articles/5000-mile...w-still-family/ (http://www.hotrod.com/articles/5000-mile-unrestored-1965-pontiac-gto-dragstrip-warrior-new-still-family/) </div></div>

Thanks, Tenney. I'm honored to be mentioned in your thread.

K

[Tenney]

Was recalling the time at MCACN, Keith, when a fellow who was admiring Scott's effort in cleaning-up the car pointed out his thinking that the windshield wipers were not originally so-polished, and Scott pointed out that the windshield wipers happened to be identical to those on the factory-original car beside it (and that car happened to be yours!).

Separately, came across a kinda cool David E. interview ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX5Vc3pIgZE&amp;feature=youtu.be

[Keith Seymore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tenney</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Was recalling the time at MCACN, Keith, when a fellow who was admiring Scott's effort in cleaning-up the car pointed out his thinking that the windshield wipers were not originally so-polished, and Scott pointed out that the windshield wipers happened to be identical to those on the factory-original car beside it (and that car happened to be yours!).</div></div>

The windshield wipers will blind you when the sun hits them just right.

Scott was rubbing on your car so much I had to ask him to stop: he was kicking up white lint and it was getting all over my car.

K

[Tenney]

Scott's a focused guy!

[Tenney]

Royal Pontiac yesterday, by Keith ...

[Tenney]

And one more from a bit before by the same feller ...

[Tenney]

RIP, Vic ...

[Tenney]

Happy Birthday, Mr. Wangers! Glad you scored the extended warranty!!

[Tenney]

Credit Drew Hardin for the fine photo! ^

[Keith Seymore]

Happy Birthday, Mr. Wangers! Glad you scored the extended warranty!!

All Pontiac enthusiasts are in your debt ("your" is intended to be plural, as is Tenney, Mr Wangers, and that little red car).

K

[Tenney]

I'm peripheral to the story, Keith, but it's been an honor (and a lotta fun!) to have the keys handy, and to eavesdrop on some cool stuff from time to time thanks to the birthday boy who, as of today, is no longer 90-and-half!

[Tenney]

Graced with "Icon Award: Timeless Classic" on Father's Day at Rodeo ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOxCuAZFnZQ

https://www.autoclassics.com/posts/news/hispano-suiza-rodeo-concours-2018

[mockingbird812]

"Icon" indeed. Congrats!

[Tenney]

Thanks, Sam!

[Tenney]

Happy 92nd, Mr. Wangers! (no hair/don't care - better mileage on the highway ...!)

[Tenney]

w/the Icon award his car was honored with on Rodeo last weekend …

[mockingbird812]

He looks GREAT. What a life he is living!!!!

[PeteLeathersac]

'

Really lookin' fine, big congrats!:worship:
:beers:
~ Pete

.

[Charley Lillard]

Hey.....where did his hair go ? :-)

[Mr70]

He traded it in for a pair of socks with sandals.

[Tenney]

Happy 4th from the Pete ...!

[L_e_e]

I learned a very valuable lesson one late night about 30yrs ago, never, ever, bet against one of Wangers cars in a street race. That little red Monza totally embarrassed a well known big tire car and his white Monte Carlo embarrassed plenty of cars also.
Happy birthday sir.

[scuncio]

Very cool, a living legend to be sure.

[Tenney]

Had the opportunity to park beside Joe Oldham’s son, Scott, in the redux of his Dad’s legendary Long Island street racer. Cool car …! (pic by George)

https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2017/01/05/baldwin-motion-camaro

[BJCHEV396]

Great article on your GTO in Hagerty's Mar/Apr edition Tenney!

[Tenney]

Thanks! Your mailman tree'd mine! Still standing by here - glad you liked it!!

[BJCHEV396]

Only one complaint,should have been more pics...LOL!

[Tenney]

With ya on that, and I haven't even seen the article yet! Evan does fantastic work!!

[Keith Seymore]

Thanks! Your mailman tree'd mine! Still standing by here - glad you liked it!!

Our mailman used to read all our car magazines before delivering them.

We'd get Hot Rod and Car Craft mags with the pages dog eared and classified ads circled, a couple days after everybody else had theirs.

(lol)

K

[Tenney]

Only one complaint,should have been more pics...LOL!

Here're a few extras (fun day!) ...

[Tenney]

Our mailman used to read all our car magazines before delivering them.

We'd get Hot Rod and Car Craft mags with the pages dog eared and classified ads circled, a couple days after everybody else had theirs.

(lol)

K

Niiiice! Hey at least you knew he cared, right?!

Will report back if my issue arrives w/similar issues ...!!

[Tenney]

Jim stuff comin' up at Dana's ...

https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indianapolis-2019/collections/jim-wangers-collection/

[markinnaples]

Beautiful pictures of your GTO