66 or 67 SS Chevelle L-78

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

Looking for a REAL, documented, 66 or 67 Chevelle SS L-78.

Anyone with information on one available for sale, please contact me.

Thank you
Mike Crown

[SamLBInj]

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Looking for a REAL, documented, 66 or 67 Chevelle SS L-78.

Anyone with information on one available for sale, please contact me.

Thank you
Mike Crown

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One in South Jersey, Im suppose to look at it this weekend..66 396-375, 308 rear.

[CT Mark]

Sam,

Just curious. What did you find out on this L-78?

Mark

[chavist93]

I have a 67 SS body that has the 6,000rpm redline tach and guages. Looks to be original. Car is factory black on black with buckets and console. No power options at all, but I guess there is no way to verify it's an l78 car without a build sheet since its just a body.

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

Thank you but, a Body, even with a build sheet showing it was an L-78 is not what I am looking for.. despite what others feel here.. a car that USED TO BE something Rare that no longer retains the item which made it RARE ( The engine ) is not worth anything more to me than an avg car., and it wouldn't matter if it had paperwork out the arse http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I do appreciate the thought though!

Mike Crown

[Charley Lillard]

So if a ZL1 without the Driverrain was offered to you you wouldn't get excited ?

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Or a '69 Yenko Nova without the 'original' engine?

[camarojoe]

Or ANY supercar without the original engine?

[Mr70]

Or the Sierra Tan 1965 Z-16 Chevelle Convertible?

[ORIGLS6]

Mike,

A little off the subject but, what happened to the Black Survivor '66 that was at Nashville in 2002? Chuck ?

I heard through the grapevine he had some health issues and the car might have sold.
Dennis

[427TJ]

Or a documented '67 L88 Corvette without its original engine?

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

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Or a '69 Yenko Nova without the 'original' engine?

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NO

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

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So if a ZL1 without the Driverrain was offered to you you wouldn't get excited ?

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NO

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

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Or ANY supercar without the original engine?

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NO

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

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Or the Sierra Tan 1965 Z-16 Chevelle Convertible?

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NO

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

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Mike,

A little off the subject but, what happened to the Black Survivor '66 that was at Nashville in 2002? Chuck ?

I heard through the grapevine he had some health issues and the car might have sold.
Dennis

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Chuck Criner's Survivor Black 66 SS, low mile car is/was a 360hp car, not L-78. I have not heard anything about it being sold though.

Lastly:

Not being a smart arse here fellas, but I have made my position on this subject known many times.. I am not asking anyone to agree with me, just respect that I feel the way I do, just as I respect the way many of you feel. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Are you sure about the '69 Yenko Nova, since the whole Yenko option centered around a CE block in the first place. It was sort of a trick question http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

I'm sure because I only have interest in 66 and 67 SS Chevelles, so Novas, Camaros, Vettes, etc.. docs or not, original engines or not.. are not where my interest are. But I love to look at em all http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Jeff H]

A guy I went to high school with had a 67 Chevelle SS396 conv and I believe it was an original L78 car. He had it painted bright yellow and it had a black top. Everyone called it the bumble bee. Last time I talked to him I think he still had it but I have no idea if it had the original engine or if it had any numbers left on the engine. I don't think he had any documenation with it though.

[Charley Lillard]

So if there was a 67 SS Chevelle convert with no engine but paperwork from Chevrolet engineering showing the car had a L88 427 installed it wouldn't excite you ? just a little bit ?

[GTO_DON]

I think were beating a dead horse here!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gifThe man does not want a car without its original drivetrain. Ive met Mike in person and he seems like a nice guy! Everybody has their own thoughts on want they want in a car! When it comes to the non SUPERCAR world,I think people are less forgivin with non original engines! JMO http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[chavist93]

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Thank you but, a Body, even with a build sheet showing it was an L-78 is not what I am looking for.. despite what others feel here.. a car that USED TO BE something Rare that no longer retains the item which made it RARE ( The engine ) is not worth anything more to me than an avg car., and it wouldn't matter if it had paperwork out the arse http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I do appreciate the thought though!

Mike Crown

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No problem, I haven't checked the interior or under the gas tank for a build sheet yet. I haven't even checked the rear end code yet and I've owned it for a few years. It's complete minus the eng/trans. Looks like it was and old drag racer. Has chrome reverse wheels with slicks and some old school yellow ladder type traction bars. It has a front mounted antenna so that means it was an am/fm radio car right? Was black on black a rare color?

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

About as excited as someone selling the Frame the Mona Lisa USED TO BE mounted in http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif Sorry, Without that supposed Super Rare engine... it's just another 67 SS Conv., they made plenty. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

I don't like to beat a horse, but at the very least, the add is getting more attention than it did in weeks http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif Thanks Don.

Group hug!

Mike Crown

[BBIGG BLOCK 396]

Good to see someone that knows exactly what he wants! Keep looking and one will pop up eventually.I will be looking here in Texas for you one. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Bobby Dodson

[Mr. T]

http://adcache.collectorcartraderonline.com/10/8/6/79719386.htm

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

Thanks Tony, but I'd be willing to bet the Farm, Documented SS Hardtop only refers to it being a Real SS, if that was a REAL 375hp they would be making that CRYSTAL CLEAR and the price would reflect it...nothing in the add says Numbers Matching or Original drivetrain?? Just that it has a 375hp engine and you have to consider the source., read between the lines http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif But again, Thank you for the effort.

FWIW.. no such animal as Butternut Yellow in 66, or body color firewall for US Car.

[Mr. T]

Yeah, I did read between the lines, but this was the closest 66 SS Chevelle that I could find, in regards to what you were looking for. And yes, if it was a L78, that would have been included in the description, along with #'s matching.

I also look for things left out in a description, but sometimes you just got to give them a call and double check. I will let you know if I come across any others.

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

I guess in my OLD age I am getting cynical http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif... ie.. there is one listed at TEAM CHEVELLE.. Marina Blue 66 SS Matching Numbers L-78.. Price = $25,000 Umm yeah, okay... so I tell my buddy, I am not even calling, b/c I know there is no way for $25K this is legit and the fact that it says it is a good car... so my bud calls and reports back to me the guy seems knowlegable and swears it is a 962 block, EG code and serial number matches VIN on door pillar too... then sends picture of the deck stamp... that's all I needed to see... not even close to what a 66 ATLANTA stamp looks like http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

Heck they made 3099 of them in 66.. but what few are left are not for sale.. I have actually seen more 67 L-78's change hands in the last 5 yrs then 66's and they only produced 612 of those http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[370454s]

I have a friend in Seattle who has a 66 L-78, he has had it 30 plus years. For the Right Money he would sell it. But as he has Stated too me in the past, he Would not want too ever see it again.So with you Living on the other end of the country I will ask him if he still is interested in selling it. Wont be cheap. Here is some Info I know for a Fact: 1966 Chevelle 396/375 HP, Original Color Tripoli Turquoise,Currently 68 GTO Verdoro Green, All Original Car Except Paint. The Original Owner set a National Record with the Car in Pure Stock Class, I believe it is a M-20 or M-22 With 4.10s. If you want me too find out more let me know. I am going too Seattle,in two weeks.
Mike Bond

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

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I have a friend in Seattle who has a 66 L-78, he has had it 30 plus years. For the Right Money he would sell it. But as he has Stated too me in the past, he Would not want too ever see it again.So with you Living on the other end of the country I will ask him if he still is interested in selling it. Wont be cheap. Here is some Info I know for a Fact: 1966 Chevelle 396/375 HP, Original Color Tripoli Turquoise,Currently 68 GTO Verdoro Green, All Original Car Except Paint. The Original Owner set a National Record with the Car in Pure Stock Class, I believe it is a M-20 or M-22 With 4.10s. If you want me too find out more let me know. I am going too Seattle,in two weeks.
Mike Bond

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Please do, and pictures are a must. Thank you.

Mike Crown

[BillD]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet...1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Chevelle-1966-AZTEC-BRONZE-CHEVY-CHEVELLE-SUPER-SPORT_W0QQitemZ4566809949QQcategoryZ6164QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem)

[Xplantdad]

See this post on Team Chevelle about this car:

"Suspect" Chevelle (http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98973)

[SamLBInj]

Interesting read, I guess now numbers matching mean that the numbers match, original numbers matching mean that the parts are original and have matching numbers, what we now need to ask and look for is this phrase" All original, Numbers Matching, on all parts originally assembled on this particular car at the time this particular car was built" with this attached clause" No original numbers matching parts were created or added to this particular vehicle at anytime after this particular vehicle was assembled at the General Motors :>>insert specific factory here:<< factory as specified by these particular and original untouched, altered or removed in anyway vin and body tag codes and dates"
Phew...what are we coming to when you have to ask a question in that manner... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

Not sure I get you Sam?? Do you somehow think the seller in the above add is justified in saying Numbers Matching L-78?

There is no need to add or insert all that crap... just tell the truth.. pretty simple... If the engine is a restamp and it is surely is.. the car is no longer Numbers Matching, even on the simpliest level of what we all agree or disagree on of what Numbers Matching means.. surely we all agree that the engine should be the Original Engine with it's original stampings, that it left the assembly plant with before you could lable it Numbers Matching http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[SamLBInj]

If you read the thread on the car at team Chevelle, the owner keeps side stepping the questions and using interesting wording, I was saying that this is basically what you need to ask if you want to make sure you are getting an original car.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif Otherwise I could buy any old car, build an engine, plop in a rear and a tranny, stamp on the numbers and Whalla, instant numbers matching car.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif, All the parts would be original so when asked this is an original numbers matching car when in fact it isnt..

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

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If you read the thread on the car at team Chevelle, the owner keeps side stepping the questions and using interesting wording, I was saying that this is basically what you need to ask if you want to make sure you are getting an original car.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif Otherwise I could buy any old car, build an engine, plop in a rear and a tranny, stamp on the numbers and Whalla, instant numbers matching car.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif, All the parts would be original so when asked this is an original numbers matching car when in fact it isnt..

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I not only read the thread, I started it. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[SamLBInj]

Then wouldnt you agree with what I said? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[L78Impala]

Mike, I know this is a little off topic...but can you tell me what air cleaner Chevy provided for the 66 L78 chevelles.
Was it the open element or the dual snorkel like the Z16 cars?

Thanks
Billy

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

Open Element air cleaner, same as the 360hp version on my car.

[Paul D]

In looking at the ebay ad, in addition to being a blatent restamp, aren't the wheels incorrect, and it's missing the idler bracket and pulley.

[camL78]

Mike, Go to Purebred Motors.com. This guy has got one you might be interested in. Jim

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

Thanks for keeping an eye out.. but this 66 at Purebreed is just another "USED TO BE" 66 SS.. has no more value to me than any other restored 66 SS, well check that.. this is a poor job at best, so has less value I guess http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

There is no way to Prove the car here was REALLY an orig. L-78 car and even if there was paper on it, the original engine is gone.. it is no longer what it used to be .. thems just the facts http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif


Appreciate the eyes

Mike

[VintageMusclecar]

Not sure if this `66 is legit or not, might be worth looking into?

Link (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Chevelle-RARE-66-Chevelle-SS-396-s-MAT-425-H-P-4-SPEED-A-C_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6164QQitemZ4592766828 QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW)

*note* window sticker lists the L78 as 425 HP??? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Stefano]

Whoa,cool car. While the early L78s in Corvettes were rated at 425hp, I have never noticed this on '66 Chevelles. I hope the docs are a more real than the factory A/C set up http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

[Don_Lightfoot]

Hmmmmm, let's see - factory would not add P/S because it was a 425 HP car. Hmmmmm - looks like a nice Pontiac power antenna setup as well. Hmmmm, Hmmmm, Hmmmm........

Can't wait for Mike to make a comment about this car, if he feels it is appropriate to comment http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Of course, I am always willing to learn and not discount anything.

[Xplantdad]

Yea Don...I hear you....I posted this on Team Chevelle to see what he (and everyone else) has to say.

[Don_Lightfoot]

Well, I just went form here to Team Chevelle and there is also a thread there on this car.

EDIT - Gee Bruce, looks like your typing beat by by a milisecond http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Xplantdad]

Edit-Never Mind!! LOL http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[L78Impala]

No documents.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1966-Chev...1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1966-Chevrolet-Chevelle-SS-Super-Sport-396-Mint_W0QQitemZ4627298424QQcategoryZ6164QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem)

[kwhizz]

And its got the "Ultra Rare" 389 tri-power option.....389-375 H.P...........WOW!!!!!!!!

Ken

[olredalert]

-------This red 66 is a beautiful car with issues. To me, both sets of rivets are wrong. The tach has the wrong redline. Am I wrong that I think that the twelve-bolt rear-end cover was installed upside down. As well, shouldnt the wheels be body-colored??? What havent I seen???...........Bill S

[Xplantdad]

If it's a real 375hp it should have an idler pulley...

The car looks really cool, though http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[kwhizz]

Bill's right, Diff cover upside down, if the front wheels are straight....then the wood wheel is upside down also.....wrong radio knobs.....looks like the turn signal mechanism has some issue also......looks like a nice throw together and should be in my garage......lol

Ken

[kwhizz]

OOps!! Just looked at the Buy it Now price.......They are a little out of line..........These guys are Ferrarri types and .........Well, enough said........

Ken

[olredalert]

-------All the other stuff could be OK but the rivets raise a BIG red flag for me........Bill S

[Bill Pritchard]

Who wrote their ad copy????? Quote from their ad text: "In 1964, Chevrolet saw the need to replace its aging Chevy II." http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif In 1964, the Chevy II was a whopping 2 years old http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif so I doubt it was ready for the scrap heap. Agree with Bill, those Trim Tag and VIN tag rivets are way wrong. I would think it impossible for the diff cover be on upside down since the ring gear clearance is offset to one side http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[kwhizz]

Yeah....you're right.....after looking at it again, it's installed correctly (Differential Cover)...the purpose of the embossed shape is to catch the lube thrown off the ring gear and channel it back to feed the bearings.......Geesh!!! I must have been really tired when I looked at the pic's yesterday........

Ken

[Bill Pritchard]

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Geesh!!! I must have been really tired when I looked at the pic's yesterday

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Too much VetteFest http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[kwhizz]

Ken
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/stupid.gif

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

a $40K car IF it looks as good in person as in photos. If it were a REAL 66 L-78, the price is a great deal IMO., but HIGHLY doubt it.. So many problems, doesn't appear to have Correct Square port Heads, No Idler pulley, No pics of teh deck stamp, No pics or response to all the extensive owner hx., 27K miles and they lost the all of the correct parts I guess.. No spiral Shocks, wrong exhaust, spash pan painted wrong, Wheels should be body color, camps are all wrong, Pedals are wrong, Radio Knobs wrong, hurtin lookin heater control, Dog dishes are painted incorrectly, exhaust manifold bolts are wrong, rear diff bolts, suffice to say, lots of detail mistakes.. and the VIN rivets are repro, TRIM TAG rivets from ACE HARDWARE http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Good luck to anyone bidding.. Buyer Beware is all I can say.

MC

[L78M22Rag]

Another minor item to add to your list... the VIN tag is on upside-down. Should be able to read the tag standing outside the car looking in through open driver's door.

[PeteLeathersac]

Upside-down diff covers and tags....sounds like this car (or it's creator) must be from 'Bizzaro World'? .
Hey Helmut, is your '67 SD an L35 car and is this the best a Mk1V could be in these cars or was there any L34 and L78 cars produced? . Thanks! .

~ Pete

[9SECONDYENKO]

I have a friend that has an original 375hp 66 chevlle with 2100 orignalmilesonit. It was called the bounty hunter and ran a/s and other classes I have pictures from when it was new and I Will post them.Also he has the original window sticker and p.o.andthe last registartion from 67 for the veh.The car needs restored but has all the original parts from new with it.Thanks Ray

[L78M22Rag]

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Hey Helmut, is your '67 SD an L35 car and is this the best a Mk1V could be in these cars or was there any L34 and L78 cars produced? . Thanks! .

~ Pete

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Pete, my SD is an L34 "EF" suffix code (4-speed) car. I've been led to believe that there were NO L78 Beaumont SDs built in 67 (but I haven't confirmed that). I was really disappointed to learn that.... given that I seem to make room in my garage for any solid lifter bow-tie that crosses my path!
Helmut

[PeteLeathersac]

Thanks Helmut....I thought the same on no L78's but wasn't sure also didn't know on the L34's....so that'd make your L34 the top-dog in a '67 and ragtop to boot! . I'd expect you have the GM Canada docs....I'd be interested in what they may have listed as production for '67 rags also did it include a breakdown into SD or Mk1V's? . How long have you had the L72 Chevelle....that's sure a solid little group you've got in your garage! . Thanks! ~ Pete

[L78Impala]

Ray, I am interested. Contact me at
[email protected]

Thanks,
Billy

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

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Ray, I am interested. Contact me at
[email protected]

Thanks,
Billy

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Hey hey... back of the Line Billy... this is my Wanted Post http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[L78Impala]

Sorry Mike. You are right. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[9SECONDYENKO]

thanks for the interest in the chevelle but at this time it is not for sale ath this time . The owner will restore the car and I`am trying to talk him in restoreing back to the race car day 2 look.I will try and figure out to send pictures.Mysterychevelle this guy said he knows you from the Aces chevelle club he says you have a very nice car.As for the window sticker and pop he does not want pictures to go out over the internet.

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

Thanks for the update Ray.. I'd love to know who it is?? Maybe you could PM me or email me privately with a name, I understand the not wanting pictures on teh net thing... I would only be interested in talking with him for the docs., to go in my libray research.. maybe he'd be willing to photo-copy for me and snail mail...

again, Thanks for the Info.

Mike

[BillD]

I know nothing about it:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1966-Chev...1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1966-Chevrolet-Chevelle-SS_W0QQitemZ4648632149QQcategoryZ6164QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem)

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

Was on ebay a few months ago and never sold.. was talked about a great deal.. Me.. I have my doubts.. sure is a sweet car!!

[Bill Pritchard]

You would think by now they would have seen fit to edit all the BS statements and incorrect information in the ad....but nooooooo http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif When you want 80K for a 66 Chevelle coupe and can't even get the engine size right, that speaks volumes http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif

[JIM]

Wheres the idler pulley???. I have a real #s match incredible one for sale E-mail me if interested. Jim http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

[clopo]

There was a yellow black top 66 at this years Chevelle-abration that I think could be bought. it had paperwork and I was told the original drive line.You can contact me at [email protected]

[VintageMusclecar]

How about this?

Link (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Chevelle-Chevelle-1967-Chevelle-SS-396-375-Matching-Numbers-Project-Car_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6164QQihZ010QQitemZ 200016580629QQrdZ1)