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Hotrodpaul
08-13-2005, 08:04 AM
After waterblasting my 69 Camaro front subframe, I noticed how bad the welds were with lots of spatter. I think the welder must have been new or mad that day. Does anyone else have welds that look this bad? Is this typical? Check it out.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/Hotrodpaul86/DSCN0070.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/Hotrodpaul86/DSCN0067.jpg
Paul
69 Camaro SS L78, M21, 4.10's
camarojoe
08-13-2005, 09:46 AM
Factory welds are always pretty bad on subframes... I have yet to see one that didn't look like it was welded left handed with a coat hanger while the guy was blindfolded... The held together for 35 years though, so looks aren't everything! When you get some fresh pain on there it will look alot better!
Rat_Pack
08-14-2005, 12:53 AM
Like camarojoe says, all subframes have poor looking welds as far as asthetics go. Take a little time with an angle grinder and a box of Roloc discs and clean up all of the welds and remove all of the slag, expecially around the crossmembers and along the outsides of the frame. This will make for a much nicer looking subframe once painted or powdercoated.......RatPack...........
Salvatore
08-14-2005, 01:20 AM
Hey Hot Rod, What do you want for $3.00 an hour? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif Do what Rat Pack tells ya. Will look good! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Hotrodpaul
08-15-2005, 04:23 AM
Looks much better now:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/Hotrodpaul86/DSCN0080.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/Hotrodpaul86/DSCN0087.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/Hotrodpaul86/DSCN0093.jpg
Just cleaned up the factory components plus a few NOS items. More to come.
Paul
69 Camaro SS L78 M21 4.10's 20K miles
Hotrodpaul
08-15-2005, 04:32 AM
A few more:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/Hotrodpaul86/DSCN0083.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/Hotrodpaul86/DSCN0085.jpg
Paul
69 Camaro SS L78 M21 4.10's 20K miles
Salvatore
08-15-2005, 05:33 PM
Great pictures, nice car! Keep em coming. Sam
Hotrodpaul
11-13-2005, 06:08 PM
Engine assembly started. Here are some pics:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/Hotrodpaul86/DSCN0483.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/Hotrodpaul86/DSCN0484.jpg
Aug 69 dated 854 CE block
Paul
Hotrodpaul
11-13-2005, 06:11 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/Hotrodpaul86/DSCN3588.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/Hotrodpaul86/DSCN3590.jpg
Bottom end shots.
Paul
Hotrodpaul
11-13-2005, 06:14 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/Hotrodpaul86/DSCN3593.jpg
End play check.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/Hotrodpaul86/DSCN3595.jpg
NOS GM L-78 Solid Cam
Hotrodpaul
11-13-2005, 06:16 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/Hotrodpaul86/DSCN3597.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/Hotrodpaul86/DSCN3601.jpg
Degreeing Cam in
Michael4yah
11-15-2005, 03:32 AM
Where did you get you cam and other parts?
71SSNova
11-15-2005, 04:56 AM
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After waterblasting my 69 Camaro front subframe, I noticed how bad the welds were with lots of spatter. I think the welder must have been new or mad that day. Does anyone else have welds that look this bad? Is this typical? Check it out.
Paul
69 Camaro SS L78, M21, 4.10's
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I worked at the old Jeep plant till it was shut down in '01. Those folks in the frame weld booth was making more smoke than just weld smoke. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
The welds were not any better in '01 than what they were in 1969.
Now it's all done by robots.
Hotrodpaul
11-15-2005, 06:37 AM
The NOS L-78 Cam I purchased about a year ago from a member of this site. The cam is currently unavailable from GM but is still stocked by Crane and Comp Cams. Forged 11:1 Pistons and dimple rods came with the motor, the crank is a factory forged steel 6223 Nitrided GM crankshaft that was purchased through Ebay.
Coming next will be the like new 842 L-89 Aluminum Heads, oil pump, pan, and manifold, etc.
Stay Tuned.
Paul
Hotrodpaul
11-15-2005, 06:41 AM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/Hotrodpaul86/DSCN3604.jpg
All the slugs are in.
Paul
Hotrodpaul
11-22-2005, 06:29 AM
L89 842 Aluminum Heads:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/Hotrodpaul86/DSCN3622.jpg
Paul
Hotrodpaul
11-22-2005, 06:36 AM
Heads Installed with NOS GM Gaskets and Pushrods:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/Hotrodpaul86/DSCN3645.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/Hotrodpaul86/DSCN3647.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/Hotrodpaul86/DSCN3648.jpg
Can't wait to see how she sounds.
Paul
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