1970 RS Z28 COPO 9796 - on E bay now.

[70 copo]

RS Z-28 Mulsane Blue, M-22 - ad says drivetrain correct. 06A car. Looks to be the real deal. Has a buy it now too.

If you are into blue, and do not mind fixing the little stuff this might be a good car.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet...577075185QQrdZ1 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Camaro-Camaro-RS-Z28-with-M22-Frame-offf_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6161QQitemZ4577075 185QQrdZ1)

Phil http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[MosportGreen66]

Looks like a nice car and he has the paper to back it up... interesting pictures he took showing the spoiler angles!

[GM-26]

I love that <font color="blue">"GM-26"</font> color!

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/159801-aa_1_b.jpg

[DaJudge]

I have looked at that car personally. If anyone here is interested in the car shoot me a PM.

[mockingbird812]

I take "correct engine" and "correct M22" to mean non-original. Is THAT correct ?

[70Z]

Further down the ad says

"All codes and vin numbers appear on the block,trans and rear"

I assume the vin on the parts matches the car http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[Donutblue]

This car is local if anyone wants me to look at it. George

[MosportGreen66]

If I know my collector right... he has a just sold off a collection of second generation Camaros. I have seen his cars on Cars-on-line.com and ebay for quite sometime now. I know he does the majority of the work himself. This might be his last peice??

[70Z]

Here's the same car..He wanted a lot less just a couple months ago.

http://www.cars-on-line.com/21383.html

[Don_Lightfoot]

There are two Camaros that could possibly entice me to turn over the Chevelle. One is a 69 Lemans Blue non-RS Z and the other is a 70 Blue RS Z like this one. Were White stripes available on this colour?

Looking at it definitely makes my crank turn http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

[Hotrodpaul]

It would be nice if the owner posted a readable copy of the window sticker.

Paul

[Mr70]

Odd "BUY IT NOW" amount. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

[70 copo]

[ QUOTE ]
Here's the same car..He wanted a lot less just a couple months ago.

http://www.cars-on-line.com/21383.html

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Could be the summer MCR "Cover car premium" price jump- Hey anyway -I like the front plate..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

Phil

[COPO427]

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Were White stripes available on this colour?

[/ QUOTE ]

yes

http://ca.geocities.com/[email protected]/images/doc_colour_and_trim_b.jpg

[Don_Lightfoot]

Thanks for posting that colour chart Mark. If I am reading it correctly, it appears you got White or Black stripes on Mulsanne Blue if you ordered a Black vinyl top, Black stripes without the vinyl top.

[Kurt S]

Not quite:
Black stripes with no top.
Black stripes with black top.
White stripes with white top.

[70 copo]

[ QUOTE ]
Odd "BUY IT NOW" amount. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

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Rick,

You bet it is. I got a fax copy of the window sticker today.

5055AF Center Console
5G80AA Positraction Axle
5J50AP Power Brakes
5M21AD 4 Speed Close Ratio Transmission
5U146Q Special Instrumentation
5U63AB AM Pushbutton Radio
5ZQ9AA Performance Axle Ratio
5Z28AA Special Performance Equipment
571AA Black Vinyl interior
5936AA 26-26 Mulsanne Blue


THIS CAR INCLUDES ASTRO VENTILATION, BUCKET SEATS, CARPETING, FRONT SHOLDER BELTS, HEAD RESTRAINTS, LIGHTER, FRONT SEAT BACK LATCHES, FRONT DISC BRAKES, Z28 EQUIP-SPECIAL V-8 ENGINE, STRIPING AIR SPOILER, SPECIAL WHEELS AND TIRES, SPECIAL CHASSIS COMPONENTS, DUAL EXHAUST


Well there you have it! From looking at the photos and discription posted from E-bay and the previous listing- that is currently one fantastic looking non factory M-22 EQUIPPED-RALLY SPORT. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

I have my doubts about the entire car at this point. All finished with this topic.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

Phil

[COPO427]

The ad says "Trans is the correct m22 and rear is 4:10 12 bolt."

But the option sheet says M21. How many other white lies are there? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif


That blue is my Fav too. Love to find that colour with black stripes with black interior in a 70 SS 396 Chevelle. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[Rick H]

What I don't understand is how someone can have the original paperwork and stil restore the car incorrectly.

This car has so many things wrong with it that it would cost you a ton to make it correct. Just slapping on a couple of RS nose pieces does not make the car an RS either. It's missing all of the door, hood and fender trim, the taillights are incorrect for RS and on and on and on.

No rear bumper guards either that are a Z/28 required item.

Not enough space here to list all of the wrong stuff.

And what is up with that D &amp; R Classics invoice mixed in with the other paperwork?? Hmmmmmmm.

Buyer beware.

Rick H.

[CamarosRus]

Someone at www.nastyz28.com (http://www.nastyz28.com) (THE 2nd Gen Camaro site) reports that Swimming With The Sharks (current seller) bought this SAME Blue Z-28 in June of 05......See below linked EBAY June ad with selling price of $18,300. See where previous seller claims cars was restored SIX years ago.....Now car was restored 18 months ago......
This buying and selling popular musclecars is obviously a lucrative occupation..........

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...%3D50%26fvi%3D1 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=4553601850&amp;ru=http%3A% 2F%2Fmotors.search.ebay.com%3A80%2F%3Fsofocus%3Dbs %26satitle%3D4553601850%26sacat%3D6000%2526catref% 253DC5%26from%3DR7%26nojspr%3Dy%26pfid%3D0%26fsop% 3D1%2526fsoo%253D1%26fcl%3D3%26frpp%3D50%26fvi%3D1 )

Chuck Sharin

[CamarosRus]

Previous June/05 seller says below that engine is NOT matching......NOW apparently it is!!!!!!!!!!! Read Q &amp; A

Q: all 7o&amp;70.5 camaro Z28 came with a 350LT1 with 360 hp sir. This is not a Z28 sir so tell the truth. This a Z28 body only
Jun-03-05
A: PLEASE READ MOTOR IS FREASH TANNY AND CAR ARE THE SAME NOT MOTOR!!!!!


Chuck Sharin

[Don_Lightfoot]

I'm not the ultimate "numbers" kind of guy anymore and the car is still sharp. However, the price needs to reflect these inconsistancies and question marks.

You know, if a lot of these sellers would just be honest and "let the quality of the car" speak for itself it would probably sell for a decent price. I mentioned earlier that if I was in the market right now I would be very much interested in this car. However, from an ethical standpoint, I would not be able to deal with a seller like this. Another "thumbs up" to Bulletin Boards like this where people can get some usefull feedback.

You know, with all the RED FLAGS being waved over restamps and faked documentation, maybe I'm better off having a CE Block and no documentation, but some decent past history. That way there is no need to be ambiguous and just let the car stand on its own merits.

[COPO427]

A friend of mine went to see it when he was shopping for a 70 R/S Z28. He said it's a fake. End of story. I'm sick of this fake F'n $hit all the time. I say lock em up with bubba for 5 years.

[67cmaro1]

the seller of this car is a member here ken pascoe of ny
may need some looking in to

[67cmaro1]

just a word of caution

[CamarosRus]

Rick Y at www.nastyZ28.com (http://www.nastyZ28.com) wrote seller and received the following reply from MICHAEL (not Pascoe ?????)................

Response from swimming-with-the-sharks!
Item: Chevrolet : Camaro (4577075185)
This message was sent while the listing was active.
swimming-with-the-sharks! is the seller.


Then you would know that i bought 71RS zee last year for 13,500 and sold it for 46,600.Welcome to America!!!!
Thanks for being the Z28 police. Michael

Chuck Sharin

[SamLBInj]

[ QUOTE ]
Rick Y at www.nastyZ28.com (http://www.nastyZ28.com) wrote seller and received the following reply from MICHAEL (not Pascoe ?????)................

Response from swimming-with-the-sharks!
Item: Chevrolet : Camaro (4577075185)
This message was sent while the listing was active.
swimming-with-the-sharks! is the seller.


Then you would know that i bought 71RS zee last year for 13,500 and sold it for 46,600.Welcome to America!!!!
Thanks for being the Z28 police. Michael

Chuck Sharin

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Amedica be berry, berry gude to me http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[SamLBInj]

[ QUOTE ]
I'm not the ultimate "numbers" kind of guy anymore and the car is still sharp. However, the price needs to reflect these inconsistancies and question marks.

You know, if a lot of these sellers would just be honest and "let the quality of the car" speak for itself it would probably sell for a decent price. I mentioned earlier that if I was in the market right now I would be very much interested in this car. However, from an ethical standpoint, I would not be able to deal with a seller like this. Another "thumbs up" to Bulletin Boards like this where people can get some usefull feedback.

You know, with all the RED FLAGS being waved over restamps and faked documentation, maybe I'm better off having a CE Block and no documentation, but some decent past history. That way there is no need to be ambiguous and just let the car stand on its own merits.

[/ QUOTE ]
Im with you 100%, I bet there are 20-30 new numbers matching cars built every day..Who was the one who said "out of the 19,000 1969 Z/28's built there are still 50,000 on the road today" http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[SamLBInj]

You know how bad it is, if they made 50 zillion 1978 Z/28's and 19,000 69 Z/28's why are there 10 times the amount of 69's for sale.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[KENNY_PASCOE]

THE Z/28 IN DISCUSSION HERE IS NOT MY CAR. IT IS 20 MINUTES FROM MY TOWN AND I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE FIGURED OUT THE REAL DEAL.... KP

[Belair62]

I WAS THINKING IT COULDN'T BE YOU BECAUSE THE ADS WERE NOT DONE IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS !!!

[MWCLASSIC]

I can assure you this is not one of Kenny Pascoe's cars.

[Xplantdad]

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I WAS THINKING IT COULDN'T BE YOU BECAUSE THE ADS WERE NOT DONE IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS !!!

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[Charley Lillard]

I think we should hang Kenny anyway just because he lives in the neighborhood....

[SuperNovaSS]

Good idea. He always is alive in the next episode anyway. Hey Charley, you killed Kenny!

[MagicRatt]

Nice car. It's a shame it's missing the chrome trim and correct tail lights. Just goes to show that once big money becomes involved, the integrity of the hobby is now sacrificed. I may not have big money, but I am a true gearhead........