Bashing etc.

[LVCamaro]

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I remember the auction with a similar description and seemingly flakey identification of the rear...

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Is that necessary, Dan? You're obviously not an interested buyer...so what could possibly be your point? Comments like that only cause other members to be reluctant to advertise their car for sale here, or even allow their car be featured in the members ride section. Andy is a standup guy and is way too smart to even dream about blowin' smoke up anyone's skirt about a 69 Camaro on this forum site.

It's a beautiful car, from my perspective, and Andy has offered a detailed description and asked interested folks to contact him directly if they prefer additional info/pics. Good luck with the sale, Andy, and I hope it finds a caring home...that car deserves to be shown for all to enjoy.

SS

[MosportGreen66]

Your right Steve I am not an interested buyer now that it is has been disclosed that the rear is not original. People pose questions and comments all day long, hence a forum, what gives (why me)? If you read what I said carefully you have noted that I was referencing the past auction’s description NOT the current description on the site. But odly enough Steve, a *similar* like statement was fashioned to avoid the truth behind the rear differential in this Camaro.

I was not attacking Quick-Bowtie or his car. I was making a comment. I do not know him, I do not you, matter of fact, I have only met 1 your gentleman who participates on this forum. If you want to police member's comments on the website, be my guest. But just like my comment might deter an interested seller from posting his car on this site, your comment makes me think twice about posting here too. I do not think your response was justified with what I said.

Like I said before, good luck with the sale http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Belair62]

This is a really tough area that we have to deal with and I'm not referencing any particular post or car...cars are always going to get questions and rightfully so...but we need to avoid shooting the living [censored] out of every car that comes across the boards...people get tired of seeing it sometimes...not every car demands scrutiny...on one hand it's a great way for people to learn what's right and whats wrong with a car and even identify fraud...on the other hand it seems like we go a little too far at times...a POS to some of us..is actually a decent place to start for other folks...so you see it's really a tough call on how far comments should go...we have kicked around making a forum for just E Bay crap and another one for Cars/Parts For Sale and just not allow replies or questions to them...but maybe thats not the right thing either...I think we should all just try and self police this thing and try not to nit pick everything...good inforamation is critical to a site like this...but "piling on" just gets old..it's good entertainment sometimes as long as we know where to draw the line. Seems like we need to re visit this issue every now and then...so consider it revisited

[Xplantdad]

Wow Bob...didn't know you had it in ya! Very well said! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

There's always the PM route that is available. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Mr. T]

Like I always say, "constructive criticism goes a long way". On the other hand, if a member(s) bash every little detail on someone's car, then that is where trouble starts happening. This is one reason why I am a little reluctant to send Bob pictures and history on any of my 69's. I have been in this hobby for almost 25 years, and I don't need someone putting my cars under a microscope and telling me what is wrong with it, and I should do this, or I should do that.
Picking apart a car to death, no matter how rare or what make and model it is really destroys this great hobby. Like Bob said, what one member might think is a treasure, another member might think it is a POS. Sometimes it is just best to keep our opinions to ourselves.

[Belair62]

T...Send me pics of your POS http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif....actually I patrol the Member Rides thing...people are generally positive and appreciative there...now if I put one of my cars up you goofs would kill me I'm sure...when cars come up for sale is where we really need to take a Valium sometimes. But if there is a Caution Fan sticker where it shouldn't be you are still fair game http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Charley.gif

[Jeff H]

The great part about a public forum is when you can ask questions about a particular item and find out if anyone knows more about it other than the current seller. In today's musclecar market with lots of dealers involved who usually don't know the fine details on the cars, it's almost mandatory to ask questions. A lot of questions should probably be kept to private messages or emails but it's great to find out the history of a given vehicle. As for bashing a car, I don't think it's bashing when people point out items that are incorrect or possibly misrepresented. An ad in a public forum or public listing such as Ebay is open to the questioning. That's how we each determine what we're willing to pay for a given vehicle. This car was on Ebay at one time and I believe it was represented as an original JL8 car without documentation. I've talked to Richard at Coast to Coast before so I knew it wasn't an original JL8 car. But this car is a well done restoration using GM parts and it looks great!

[Belair62]

Totally agree...we just need know when the line is crossed between information and bashing...

[JoeG]

I glad to see the medication is working Bob-- http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[quick-bowtie]

Just wanted to type in quick note..I didnt take Dan's comment the wrong way..So no harm done, I do know what its like to get your car bashed and it isn't fun that why I and a few friends no longer go on the Corvette website and thats why I kinda keep to myself..I guess it all boils down to personality some guys speak out and some just keep it to themselves I would never want to pull the wool over someones eyes and I always try to rep my cars correctly, if you dont like thats fine and if you do thats fine too.. I personally like that SYC keeps a log of car discussed because it has saved me a couple times from buying a made/junk car. As for this Z it is a REAL Z and numbers matching, TONS of NOS GM parts and an excellent resto..Its not 100% dead on perfect but its pretty close. If it were a documented JL8 with Papers backing up a crossram Id want alot more money for it, with normal Z's bringing in the mid 40's for decent resto's and RS Z's bring in the mid 50's. I figured a HIGH POINT Z with very expensive dated parts is well worth the money to the right guy. Thanks Andy

P.S. Cant we all just get along..lol http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[427TJ]

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I glad to see the medication is working Bob-- http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

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JoeG: http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

Well said Belair. Oh, and pass some of that medication around to the rest of us.

Self-policing the neighborhood keeps the neighborhood a happy place.

[Salvatore]

I feel Dan is just stating a fact. He didn't say he did or didn't like the car, and didn't really cut the car up. Just pointing out some facts about the rear. I would sware there was nothing personal here. I think it is a very nice car also. JMO Sam

[MosportGreen66]

Thank you guy for clarifying some points. I really meant no harm by the comment. I am an easy going guy and think (I hope) I have communicated this in my post, private messages and emails to others. It is especially easy to misunderstand the direction of an internet post since there is voice tone or facial expressions. I promise to abide by our new standard here on Yenko.net.

As for Steve and Andrew, private messages have been sent and resolutions have been met. Thanks guys! Again, I apologize!

[Belair62]

No real harm...and no new standards...seems like once a year we need to remind ourselves is all...and no Joe...you can't have any.

[Keith Tedford]

Look on the brighter side. If your car can run the gauntlet here and come out unscathed, it is a real winner. You might even learn of a few mistakes done during the restoration. For the perfectionist, your car may come out the better from the experience. There are some pretty keen minds and sharp eyes here. Not much gets by and this is good. The nit picking helps keep people honest and the fraudsters gun shy. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Hylton]

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Look on the brighter side. If your car can run the gauntlet here and come out unscathed, it is a real winner. You might even learn of a few mistakes done during the restoration. For the perfectionist, your car may come out the better from the experience. There are some pretty keen minds and sharp eyes here. Not much gets by and this is good. The nit picking helps keep people honest and the fraudsters gun shy. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

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Common Keith - did you ever think for a moment that most people do not want their vehicle to be scrutinized? Do you believe that every member on this site wants their car to be "The ultimate garage/trailer queen"? Is having an incorrect or less than perfect car illegal, immoral or just plain wrong? How many 900+ point cars on this site get driven? Maybe, just maybe - some guys want to put more than 10 miles a year on a car.

Truth is, there are many different types of people in this hobby and on this site. Your post assumes that only perfect cars are allowed to be owned and/or sold and that people on this site have the right to critique someones car. How is that so?

Some people here feel the need to show everyone what vast amounts of knowledge they have on a certain model so they play a little game with themselves called "let's see how many incorrect things I can find on someone's pride and joy and then let the world know what I found so they can see how smart I am"

Most members of this site can pick apart a car blind-folded. Yet, they are respectful enough to keep out of someone elses business. Do you ever see Jim M., Kurt S., Ed C., Rich F.or Jerry M. posting comments about someone's Camaro? They are on this site frequently but have no desire to show the world how knowledgeable they are.

Maybe we can get Tom to start a Forum called "Go ahead, pick apart my car" to satisfy all you guys who feel the need to butt in on someone elses business.

[Salvatore]

Hylto, Hylton, Hylton You are taking this thing way out of contex. America IS a free country. With anything else people evaluate homes, cars, other people, clothes, attitudes and so forth. Thats life. You have a very nice car. RELAX and take it for a ride! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Hylton]

You may be quite right Sam but I just find all this critiqing does nothing to increase the participation or enjoyment in this hobby.

[Salvatore]

Its just the way it is. I am sure you have thick skin living in Canada. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Hylton]

There are 3 things I try to instill into my kids:

If you fool around long enough without protection, it's gonna come back and bite you;

The Toronto Maple Leafs suck;

and cars are to be enjoyed.

[SamLBInj]

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There are 3 things I try to instill into my kids:

If you fool around long enough without protection, it's gonna come back and bite you;

The Toronto Maple Leafs suck;

and cars are to be enjoyed.

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As a Canadian you forgot one,
"Always remember, a Buck's a Buck but for us its only 75 cents" http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

PS, Good Luck with Lindros,youll need it, as a Flyers fan Im glad we finally got Forsberg back. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Hylton]

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As a Canadian you forgot one,
"Always remember, a Buck's a Buck but for us its only 75 cents" http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

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Actually it is about 86 cents and climbing, so buy your cottage or hunting camp now.....

[SamLBInj]

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There are 3 things I try to instill into my kids:

If you fool around long enough without protection, it's gonna come back and bite you;


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If you can get it to bite you then you will not need protection, Possibly goggles though http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[COPO427]

There just has to be one answer to the bashing on this site. I get the impression that a major bunch here never grew up during the Muscle Car days of the 60's to 1970. I'll admit it, I'm a baby boomer and I believe there's alot of snotty little immature people on this site. I asked one question about a 70 SS 396 Chevelle and got my rude answers back. There's just no respect with kids these days, cause they think they know it all. I was driving muscle cars when some of the people here were just a twinkle in their Father's eyes. I just have to say one thing and it's "GROW UP". http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[COPO427]

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PS, Good Luck with Lindros,youll need it, as a Flyers fan Im glad we finally got Forsberg back. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

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And I was waiting for the soothers and baby hats to come out in Toronto in the crowd http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif. He'll get hit soon enough and again be out. He forgets he's not with the Generals any longer where he was the biggest player on the team and he could skate with his head down and plough through. Not so in the NHL. I still remember the setup with Scott Stevens of NJ that nailed him.

[Hylton]

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...... I still remember the setup with Scott Stevens of NJ that nailed him.

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That hit was fantastic. He who lives by the sword.......

[SamLBInj]

I remember watching Forsberg in the Olympics and how thrilled I was knowing he was a Flyer as this kid was something else. Then when Clarke with his Broad Street Bully mentallity traded all those players including Forsberg to the future Av's for Lindros I was amazed, I knew Lindros was good but not for what we gave up, History showed who was right and the Legion of Doom, as good as they were, never got us the cup. One day Bobby Clarke will realize how we won the cup when he was playing and his name was Bernie Parent, Maybe then he will get us a backstop. Only God saved more than Bernie Parent http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[COPO427]

Just a rant above, don't mind me. Must be my X pissing me off these days.

[SamLBInj]

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Just a rant above, don't mind me. Must be my X pissing me off these days.

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Always better to be pissed off than pissed on.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[Keith Tedford]

Hylton sure got the wrong impression of where I'm coming from. The only time our cars are on trailers is when they go to and come from the bodyshop and are too torn apart to drive. Since 1997 we've put about 26K miles on our L78 Chevelle and about 7K miles on our '72 455 Lemans Sport in the last year and a half. Our cars are nice drivers at best and anything but perfect stone chips and all. I could give you a pretty big list of things that are incorrect. Hurst shifter, headers, no smog and all. We still enjoy them a lot. If we were selling our L78 car for $25K, details wouldn't matter. $75K and it is a different matter. If I see something about a car that is for sale that throws a red flag, I don't mind mentioning it to the guys here. Sometimes it's nothing and sometimes I might save someone from buying an expensive fake and there certainly are lots of those out there. I try to help Chevelle people where I can. Don't ever get up tight about what I say and send a PM if you have a problem. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
There was the little boy who had been beaten by his parents. He wanted the judge to make him a ward of the Toronto Maple Leafs because they weren't capable of beating anyone. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Their games are sold out anyway. It's only been about 38 years.

[SamLBInj]

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There was the little boy who had been beaten by his parents. He wanted the judge to make him a ward of the Toronto Maple Leafs because they weren't capable of beating anyone. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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[Hylton]

Keith,

My point is that if you put one of your cars up for sale here regardless of price or condition, someone is going to get all over it.

Good joke about the Leafs though.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Supercar_Kid]

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There just has to be one answer to the bashing on this site. I get the impression that a major bunch here never grew up during the Muscle Car days of the 60's to 1970. I'll admit it, I'm a baby boomer and I believe there's alot of snotty little immature people on this site. I asked one question about a 70 SS 396 Chevelle and got my rude answers back. There's just no respect with kids these days, cause they think they know it all. I was driving muscle cars when some of the people here were just a twinkle in their Father's eyes. I just have to say one thing and it's "GROW UP". http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

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Ouch...sounds like the pot calling the kettle black to me.

Weren't you just calling someone a "knucklehead" for installing hood pins on their '72 Chevelle SS, when in fact all '72 domed hood Chevelles got them?

I understand the objective, I don't care to nitpick cars to death either, but I certainly don't think this site would be nearly as helpful and informative as it is without the help and enthusiasm of many youthful individuals. Wasn't it Rob Clary himself who just turned 30?

I may have just been a twinkle in my father's eye when you were living the musclecar era, but I own, drive, and appreciate classic American muscle the same as you older guys. Let's just try not to make any sweeping generalizations or off hand remarks that are meant to exclude or alienate anyone from having the same fun you're having. There's room for both generations. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[SamLBInj]

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Wasn't it Rob Clary himself who just turned 30?


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Yea, but he was born on Feb 29 so he's really 120 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[Xplantdad]

Wouldn't he be 7 1/2 years old then? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif That's how old he looks!

BTW, there's room for EVERYONE here, right? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[COPO427]

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Weren't you just calling someone a "knucklehead" for installing hood pins on their '72 Chevelle SS, when in fact all '72 domed hood Chevelles got them?

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Touche, yes you are correct. NO pun intended on the generation here. I'm here to learn as everyone else. If I knew everything then Bill Gates would be working for me.
On the other hand, I'm not in the market for a 72 Chevelle or I would have done more research on the 72 cars. My opinion only and others may differ, but I think the 1970 was the last year of the true Muscle Car. That's taking in the horsepower and tough body lines. I love all Muscle cars and still own and drive them and will till the day I die. Some teens out there know nothing and don't want to know anything about the old muscle cars due to the cost. I know alot of them are into the rice burners.
I still remember one Fri night in 1974 when I was in a 68 Hemi Runner beside a 67 Camaro with a 427 in it. I thought I was going to air born. Those Hemis are quick cars but MCReview proved that the 440 6-pack and even the 70 Buick GS Stage II was a quicker car than the Hemi.
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[Mr. T]

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T...Send me pics of your POS http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif if there is a Caution Fan sticker where it shouldn't be you are still fair game http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Charley.gif

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[Belair62]

wrong heater core

[tirebird]

My 2-cents is that I welcome any and all comments,..even the nitpicking variety. There's no other website with a membership that has the broad knowledge of all makes and models of vehicles. Yes, the "fan sticker" comments are a little much, but, in my mind, who cares. If you own a car and ask for opinions from this board, you'll get them, all of them, the helpful and not so helpful.

I own a 1971 TransAm painted Ferrari "fly" yellow with a Chevy big block(painted Pontiac blue with aftermarket everything and I smile knowing that some guys on this board are laughing with me, not at me about my car.

Keep those nitpicking comments coming.

[SamLBInj]

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Keep those nitpicking comments coming.

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Man are you a glutton for punishment, I take it your not married? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[djunod]

I think the nitpicking is interesting and somewhat informative. I've been around here for a little while, and what I find amusing is the anti-nitpicking for certain cars & people, even when it is due.

[SamLBInj]

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what I find amusing is the anti-nitpicking for certain cars & people, even when it is due.

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What you talkin bout willis http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[427TJ]

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what I find amusing is the anti-nitpicking for certain cars & people, even when it is due.

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That's because nobody wants to stick their neck out and criticize one of the 'big gorillas' and then have their head handed to them by everyone else.

The unspoken rule is that there are the safe (and often defenseless) targets who are easy to gang-up on and then there are the 'big gorillas' that everyone knows are off-limits. It's typical of any gathering of people--we all know who we can dis and who we dare not dis for fear of being thrown out of the group.

What we need to preserve here is the right of all of us to <u>respectfully</u> disagree and to voice our disagreements in a <u>respectful</u> manner without fear of retribution.

Oh, by the way, http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/CharleySucks.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/BelairSucks.gif

[Seattle Sam]

"Why can't we all just get along?"

http://www.soliddonkey.com/images/derby.jpg

[Belair62]

Send me a PM with a list of big gorillas...

[Mr70]

I've never seen a better picture to photo shop some familiar faces onto. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Mr. T]

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I've never seen a better picture to photo shop some familiar faces onto. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Oh jeez, not that again! I am assuming Sam hasn't seen that picture yet? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[427TJ]

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Send me a PM with a list of big gorillas...

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Right after I get home from my kids' soccer games.

Hey, I was kidding about " http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/BelairSucks.gif" okay???

[Belair62]

I'm gonna figure out how to put my own names on those friggin signs !!

[SamLBInj]

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I'm gonna figure out how to put my own name on those friggin signs !!

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Your name is on it, see..you know Belair I think you are a gentleman and a scholar who's generosity is only exceeded by your good looks.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif
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[Belair62]

Aw shucks Sam..I didn't know you felt that way about me...thanks man. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[SamLBInj]

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Aw shucks Sam..I didn't know you felt that way about me...thanks man. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

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[Lynn]

I have to say that I really appreciate the "reviews" offered of cars for sale. I have learned more via "bashing" than any other way. When a guy puts a car up for sale and represents it as being perfect, awesome, numbers matching, factory original, numbers correct etc, it had better stand up to some scrutiny. If a guy lists a car that has an obviously swapped trim tag, are the guys in the know supposed to just ignore it? What if a car comes up and you are aware of the car, knowing it was a rebody? Not supposed to speak up? Most vehicles that are for sale are available for inspection. If a knowledgeable guy or gal on this board can point out some obvious flaws or mistakes made in the resto, then it might save someone a pile of money because they eliminate the car from consideration without having to hire an expert to go check it out.

Personally, I say scrutinization is great. Doesn't mean anyone has to get personal. If you put a car on here, describe it fully and fairly, and DISCLOSE known problems, flaws and incorrect items, you have nothing to worry about.

I did not find the original comment by MosportGreen66 to be "bashing" at all. If the car was recently offered, I would want to know what the previous owner said about it.

Just my 02 cents.

Lynn

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Oh yeah.....and I would even let her win too!