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collector2
10-13-2005, 10:52 PM
I am looking at an ebay item # 4581073921. After bidding on another car from Tacoma Wa and hearing of some possible fraud issues I am concerned that I may be bidding on a possible clone. Is there anyone that can advise me of this Z ( item # noted above)

rsatz28
10-13-2005, 11:06 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...item=4581073921 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay .com%3A80%2F%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26 satitle%3D4581073921%26fvi%3D1&item=4581073921)

Don_Lightfoot
10-14-2005, 12:18 AM
No reference to documentation or matching numbers.

All in all it appears to be a sharp car.

70Z
10-14-2005, 12:21 AM
discussed here too.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/163513/an/0/page/1#163513

musclecarjohn
10-14-2005, 02:15 AM
Where's a picture of the trim tag? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Lynn
10-14-2005, 05:52 AM
Of course it is real. Auction states "'69 RS Z28 REAL X33"

I think you can infer the following from the auction:

1. Not the original engine. Although possible, I think April 2 is a little too early for this car. It would be a late July or car. VIN is only 1232 before my 08A car.

2. Not the original trans. Says "numbers correct" not numbers matching.

3. Not an original JL8 car for two reasons. First, too late, no JL8 after June, correct? Second, he doesn't say it is, so probably fair to say the rear brakes are aftermarket.

4. May be, but probably not the original color (not talking about the stripe color, which we know was not origianl), or he would have listed some trim tag data.

Still, a very nice looking car, at least in these pictures. Plenty to "bash" as far high restoration standards to original. A serious buyer would simply need to have it inspected. If the most important thing to you is the trim tag, have someone check it out. At the very least ask him to email you a high resolution pic. Ask Kurt S. to take a look. If the tag is bogus, you saved your time and money having it inspected.

Lynn

collector2
10-14-2005, 06:49 AM
Here is the cowl tag as it was emailed to me

ST69 12437 NOR106846BDY
TR 711 67 67 PNT
08A X33D80

I am not sure of how to post the photo of the tag.

musclecarjohn
10-14-2005, 06:58 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Here is the cowl tag as it was emailed to me

ST69 12437 NOR106846BDY
TR 711 67 67 PNT
08A X33D80

I am not sure of how to post the photo of the tag.

[/ QUOTE ]

So,originally it was Burgundy w/standard blk. interior,right? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

collector2
10-14-2005, 07:07 AM
I have received great help on the site in a short period. In looking at the decoding section of the site I see that the car is not the correct color. But I am still not sure of the rest of the tag. Any red flags?

Value of car with non correct paint?

musclecarjohn
10-14-2005, 08:25 AM
Depends if your selling or keeping.These cars are all just personal extentions of we think the perfect car should look like.Do what makes you happy. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

The car is a X-33 (higher trim level Z/28,if you will)with a factory mounted rear spoiler (D80).

It IS a sharp looking car,especially in Black.Great stance too which is always important in my book.

70Z
10-14-2005, 08:26 AM
pic of this cars cowl tag for collector2. Maybe someone can resize it.
http://www.tamparacing.com/photopost/data/500/69_z28_cowl_tag.jpg

Jeff H
10-14-2005, 04:36 PM
It looks to have the original trim tag. So the car is the wrong color with wrong color stripes, chambered exhuast is wrong, 4 wheel disc brakes are wrong, no mention of it being #'s matching, just numbers correct. So you have a nice looking Z28 that might or might not be an original RS car. It most likely doesn't have the original engine/transmission from his desription. Is it worth $45K? If you really, really want a black/silver RS/Z28 then it might be. But for $45K you can get a true matching #'s Z28 so I wouldn't be jumping on this car. That's my opinion though.

Lynn
10-14-2005, 05:41 PM
I agree with Jeff, tag looks good. Here is a pic of my tag for comparison. Don't know that you can still find a numbers matching Z in what appears to be this kind of shape for $45k though.

Just my opinion.

Lynn

collector2
10-14-2005, 11:56 PM
Im looking at it this way. If I bought a boxed up rs Z28 with numbers correct motor and running gear and took it home to restore it to the condition this one looks to have I may spend 10k to buy the car with boxes of parts and another 30k to restore it and possibly more. So its togh to say. Today these cars are getting big numbers.

I am a serious buyer and do want top quality. Anyone have a good one for sale?

Mr. T
10-15-2005, 12:01 AM
You live in WA state? What part? I know of a couple for sale right now. One is a Z/RS located about 120 miles from my place.

collector2
10-15-2005, 01:19 AM
Olympia Wa

70Z
10-15-2005, 01:52 AM
Not sure if this one sold, but it was listed on this site by a member a few weeks ago.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/159537/an/0/page/6#159537