Ebay.... Real Z-16 ??

[John Brown]

Is it or isn't it?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet...1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Chevelle-Z-16-Z-16_W0QQitemZ4593195246QQcategoryZ6164QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem)

[markjohnson]

That's very heartbreaking to see but hopefully it will be saved. I'd say more than likely the real thing but wish there were a few more photos.

[Belair62]

I think one of the Z 16 guys ..Terry lives out that way...

[SSMAN66]

I live less than 5 miles from the seller. I sent a message asking to see the car in person.

[Mr70]

I'm no expert,but it sure seems like it meets the criteria for a real Z-16.
Be nice to see the cowl tag too for the 4FM code.
Even the VIN# is in the correct time frame.
That looks like D&P Classic Chevy in Huntington Beach.

[nova7579]

I found a real one the other day. Its missing the original engine but it is the real mccoy!

Brian

Brian

[Stuart Adams]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif You threw the bait in so lets see some pics of that bad boy. One of my all time favs.

[nova7579]

It took me 2 hours of talking before the guy would admit to owning the car, then he did not want to show it to me. So there are no pictures. And no I won't tell anyone where it is. I made a promise to the owner not to throw him to the wolves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brian

[John Brown]

Brian, think of it as part of your "retirement fund". http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[scott s]

All Z-16,s susposedly had remote mirrors,tilt and wood wheels also.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[MosportGreen66]

I thought all Z16s were manuals?

[nova7579]

If you look closely you can see the clutch pedal is still there. Not all Z-16's had wood wheels.

Brian

[Mr70]

That's not the authentic console,so don't be mislead.
It's obviously been molested,but who knows.
MORE HERE (http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=109751&page=1&pp=15)

[MosportGreen66]

I thought that was the parking brake pedal.
Thanks for the clarification Rick!

[camarojoe]

The steering wheel in the car isn't original anyhow, its a 69-72 Chevy pickup wheel. The trim in the trunk looks legit, as does the speedo... If its not real it got some real stuff thrown in that would be very hard to find otherwise... I'm betting its legit... but will wait to see if he actually posts trim tag info.

[GTO_DON]

[ QUOTE ]
All Z-16,s susposedly had remote mirrors,tilt and wood wheels also.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ] http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gifWHERE THE HELL DID YOU GET THAT INFO? I USED TO OWN ON AND THATS NOT TRUE.

[firstgenaddict]

They all had the 4F code for Z13 Comfort and Convenience package (Type B) which included Outside Remote Mirror, Inside Non-Glare Mirror, 2 speed electric windshield wipers and washers.
and the M for the Z16 Package.

[John Brown]

Well, he has more pictures available on there now. Looks to be the real thing. He must have taken the pictures according to the questions that people asked. With about 3,000 views I'll bet he got a lot of e-mail, probably gonna get a whole lot more. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[lbnaz]

Hello, the car is the real deal. It used to be in Tucson, AZ. Its a rust bucket though. Its on the registry. Larry.

[Stuart Adams]

Anyone have an educated guess on a restored Z-16 go for today? NADA sais 125K, that seems low.

[JChlupsa]

Stuart,

Your maxed out on PM, clear your box out http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Stuart Adams]

Will do, thanks.

[resto4u]

New cowl tag rivets, or just the pic?

[scott s]

I read that somewhere http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif i guess iam mistaken... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

[GTO_DON]

Sorry for the strong reply Scott! I probably had to much to drink that night http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif I used to own one of those cars back in the 80's and learned alot about them. My car had something else that i never hear anybody say but it had a provision under the dash molded in the metal part for a mechanical choke http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif It also had pwr windows,steering,brakes,tilt wood wheel and the multiplex! Red/black top. Still know where it is. Happy holidays to you and your family.

[mrrec]

[ QUOTE ]
Hello, the car is the real deal. It used to be in Tucson, AZ. Its a rust bucket though. Its on the registry. Larry.

[/ QUOTE ]

What registry?? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

All Z16s had the remote mirror. Tilt, wood wheel, power windows and vinyl top (and exterior and interior colors) were ONLY options.
Dave

[Chevy454]

Hey Dave! Glad to see ya drop by with the info...http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

No orig. motor or trans.. just another USED TO BE car IMO. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[scott s]

No problem DON just tell me where your old z16 is and ill forgive ya http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif.

[Belair62]

I'd love to have one of those used to be cars !

[GTO_DON]

[ QUOTE ]
No problem DON just tell me where your old z16 is and ill forgive ya http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif.

[/ QUOTE ]NO PROBLEM,I'LL TAKE YOU RIGHT TO IT AS SOON AS YOU SHOW ME THAT YENKO CHEVELLE THATS HIDING UP YOUR WAY http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gifPS,I BELIEVE IVE BEEN FORGIVIN! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[MikeA]

[ QUOTE ]
No orig. motor or trans.. just another USED TO BE car IMO. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Therefore not worth restoring?

[MosportGreen66]

This is the same deal with restoring a badly beaten super car... your preserving/saving a VIN #.

[mrrec]

Like many ZL1s, most Z16s don't have the original engine and/or drivetrain. Also like the ZL1, it doesn't make them any less collectable. The Z16 has an incredible number of special, unique chassis parts. Like any desirable, valuable car, ANY legit Z16 is worth restoring - I hope we don't get into the "replace the handle, replace the bit - is the axe still original" debate again......http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
Dave

[SS427]

I have to agree and brings up the old question again. Just because much of the car is missing, does it warrant crushing a piece of history? I would much rather see the car in a museum with the wrong drive train then see it get crushed because much of it is missing.
Rick

[Kim_Howie]

Restoring cars is like SEX their ALL good some are better!!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[ORIGLS6]

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Restoring cars is like SEX

[/ QUOTE ]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[Stuart Adams]

Restoring a car takes longer.........

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

Never said the car was not worth Restoring.. just not Worth as much as the same car in same condition with the original drivetrain. As it stands now, to me.. it's a 65 Chevelle. Just my opinion gentlemen, nobody has to agree, it's what makes the hobby and the world so wonderful.. we can all agree to disagree and have different opinions without disliking each other for that opinion! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Mike

[MikeA]

There really is not a correct answer to the question. I was just wondering your opinion.

[Kim_Howie]

Again it's all in the eye of the beholder. Sex & women & cars. Some are pigs & some look like show horses. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[mrrec]

[ QUOTE ]
There really is not a correct answer to the question. I was just wondering your opinion.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yep. If we all liked the same thing, it'd be a pretty boring world......
Dave

[x44d80]

Mrrec, what shape was the black z-16 that just sold for 120,000 that needed a complete resto compared to this and do you have a guess on how much this will go for? It only has a day left so we will see if if meets the reserve price.

[amuseme]

Apparently I'm doing one or the other ALL wrong! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[Kim_Howie]

That has to with age. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[raw muscle cars]

You did not hear it from me $45,000.00 is the asking price...

[Mr70]

Who said that?

[Mr70]

$35,100.00 Reserve not met..I would've accepted that.

[COPO]

You mean $39,744 reserve not met.

[mrrec]

[ QUOTE ]
Mrrec, what shape was the black z-16 that just sold for 120,000 that needed a complete resto compared to this and do you have a guess on how much this will go for? It only has a day left so we will see if if meets the reserve price.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm told the black car was complete, orig paint, but needing complete resto. The eBay car should be in the $50k ballpark, but it takes a great deal of education and determination to find all the right stuff to restore it into a $150k car (which it will be easily).
Dave

[Charley Lillard]

There was a supposed black -red car out here in primer at a resto shop for years that just sold several times recently. Anybody here of one coming out of Ca. in the last 6 months ?

[mrrec]

Charlie:
I believe that is the car - I forgot that the previous owner had started on the body. I bought a Z16 block from him. The car went to Kansas City for just a few months, then sold again and now in Tenn or SC, I think.
Dave

[Charley Lillard]

A friend of mine owned that car for years. It sat not 20 miles from me. JQuinn has his old COPO.

[mrrec]

Ron T. is the Calif. owner that I know that had the car for years. Are we talking about the same guy/car?
Dave

[GTO_DON]

IVE GOT A PIC OF ONE IVE HAD SINCE THE EARLY 80'S THATS BLACK WITH CORVETTE KNOCKOFFS ON IT. SAME CAR?

[Belair62]

Don that sounds like the one in the Super Sport book by Terry Boyce...was it lowered a bit ?

[Charley Lillard]

Yes. Ron is a friend of mine. The one with the Corvette knockoffs is still out here and owned by another guy I know named Chris D. He does restos and has owned a couple of the Z16's. The other one he had he sold years ago to someone in Cape Cod.

[427TJ]

First saw this photo in the SS book in 1981 and flipped. What a cool car. Does it still look like this?
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/65Z16Daniels.jpg

[GTO_DON]

I WILL BRING HOME THE PIC AND POST IT. ITS A 35MM SHOT OF IT FROM THE BACK. I WILL ALSO POST SOME PICS OF MINE FROM "BACK IN DA DAY" http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Mr Yenko]

Charlie, Was the car that went to Cape Cod ( Trpl. Blk. with a ton of paperwork ) I beleive it sold some where in the early 80's. I have not yet taken the trip to see it.
THE "MOF"

[Charley Lillard]

I don't remember what color it was. I don't think I ever saw it but I know Chris had it. He said it was not for sale but a guy in Cape Cod kept bugging him and he needed it more than Chris did.

[Belair62]

I think Chris has had quite a few Z 16's

[mrrec]

[ QUOTE ]
I think Chris has had quite a few Z 16's

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Nine

[Xplantdad]

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I think Chris has had quite a few Z 16's

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Nine

[/ QUOTE ]

WOW! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[olredalert]

-------Guy on Cape Cods first name is Wayne. One of the nicest guys on earth and a good, good, long time friend, like back to 1968, when he came to look at my 67 SS Tahoe T Chevelle for sale. He restored that triple black Z16. Havent seen it in years but, typically for the area of Cape Cod where he lives, the restos go backward relatively quickly even with little or no use! He has several other very rare cars, one of which he bought from my brother thru me back in 68/69 timeframe.
-------Know Chris too. Topnotch! He just finished up a resto on a yellow, original engine, one owner Z16 of another friend of mine in Dallas. Saw it last week. Needs a bit of touch-up on the paint, surprisingly, but a super resto otherwise.
-------That K-O car of his is bitchin. Sits way CQQL!!!.........Bill S

[flyingn]

rehashing old threads. I was the guy who sold my Z16 To GTO Don http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif.. That car is still in a million pieces in 2 places in pa right now.

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