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Hotrodpaul
11-26-2005, 07:26 AM
Where can you find reproduction Goodyear Wide Tread GT Tires in F70-14 size for 69 Camaro's? I have seen the Polyglas GT tires in reproduction but I dont think these are correct for 69 Camaro's. Thanks,

Paul

camarojoe
11-26-2005, 07:57 AM
They aren't. Wide Treads are correct, and can be bought from Kelsey Tire...The Wide Tread GT is not produced in an F70-14 size, but the standard Wide Tread is.... I believe the website is kelseytire.com.

Z-11 396
11-26-2005, 05:18 PM
Joe, you are right, I got a set of Wide Tread for my Pace Car from Kelsey Tire in the F-70-14, didn't they only go on the Z-28, and Pace Car?.......Kasey

camarojoe
11-26-2005, 06:22 PM
Z11 Pace Car replicas used the F70-14 (Wide Tread if it was a goodyear), which is the same as any SS Camaro, I'm no pacecar expert, but I believe I read that the "actual" pace car used 15" E-70 Wide Tread GT like the Z/28's...As a side note, Sport Car 200 Firestones are also correct for a 69 Z, in E-70 15 size.

Don_Lightfoot
11-26-2005, 06:26 PM
Paul, go to www.kelseytire.com (http://www.kelseytire.com), click on "Performance Series", the part number you want is 114-481-040. I got a set from them a couple of years ago for my 69 Velle SS.

njsteve
11-26-2005, 10:33 PM
Here's a shot of my Z11 with the correct Wide Treads I got from Kelsey Tires. When you receive them, make sure you check the tires closely for damage or defects. I had to send two tires back because the were "shaved" too close to the side wall and the white letters looked way too thick. I also had to send one tire back because it had razor cuts in the sidewall from the person who wrapped them and then cut the wrapping while it was against the sidewall of the tire. Kelsey was very helpful and sent out new tires, but I had to front the money for them. They did refund what I paid for the defective/damaged ones and paid for shipping out of their pocket:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/nk15268/front34A.jpg

Bruce
11-27-2005, 03:32 AM
Was a G70-15 custom wide tread available as optional tires, and if so what cars did they come on?
One more question, what cars came with the H-70-15 polyglas?
Corresponding with a guy that has a complete set of each NOS.
Thanks

camarojoe
11-27-2005, 04:24 AM
I don't know of anything that came with G70-15s or H70-15s from the factory... both were a pretty big tire for a factory application... G-70-14's were optional on el Camino SS (maybe Chevelle too?) in 69.

Don_Lightfoot
11-27-2005, 04:28 AM
The GTO's and 442's had the G70-14's pretty much as standard equipment. Agree with Joe on the G70-15's and H70-15's, strictly "tire dealer" offerings as far as I know.

169indy
11-27-2005, 06:47 AM
Steve, Do the reproduction WTs have the size (F70-14) on the wall after WIDETREAD?

I have picked up a display-spare WT-GT from a board memeber here for use in my 69. Of course would be nice if it was correctly reporduced. A lot of SS with POLYGLAS out there.
They all ride like junk, but look so right on the cars.

http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/500/medium/WIDETREAD_GT.jpg

Jim

Hotrodpaul
11-27-2005, 09:03 AM
Very good info. Are the Firestone Wide Oval repro tires also correct for the 69 Camaro SS. I anyone knows, how do they ride and handle compared to the Goodyear Wide Tread in a F70-14 size. Thanks,

Paul

camarojoe
11-27-2005, 09:59 AM
No the repro Wide Ovals are not correct for a 69 Camaro either... the only repro F70 14 that is currently offered that would be acceptable for your car is an F70-14 wide tread Goodyear. All the repro bias ply tires drive and ride about the same... alot of guys cry about them and claim them to be impossible to drive on etc... but I have had them on lots of stuff for years, with 1000's of miles logged and really don't have any problems with them..besides, radials look terrible on 60's cars http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif.

njsteve
11-27-2005, 05:19 PM
Here's a close up of the repro Wide Tread. I believe the correct tire for early 1969 was the "Wide Tread" and not the later "Wide Tread GT." And, yes they do right kinda rough. The car rolls much nicer on the new Firestone Indy 500 radials that I have mounted on an extra set of rims.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/nk15268/tires.jpg

Z-11 396
11-27-2005, 05:31 PM
Steve, your tires look great, I have a few spots on mine, but at least they drive straight down the road, my other tires tracked the cracks in the road, I was all over the place, The new tires are doing great for handling , I don't get stop by the cops as often.....Kasey

njsteve
11-27-2005, 06:19 PM
Here's the car back in 1970 with the original set of Wide Treads on it.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/nk15268/tn_camaro3.jpg

Hotrodpaul
11-27-2005, 06:21 PM
Steve, what P/N from Kelsey Tire is the one shown above? Would it be 114-481-040. Thanks,

Paul

njsteve
11-27-2005, 06:30 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Steve, what P/N from Kelsey Tire is the one shown above? Would it be 114-481-040. Thanks,

That's the one: the Speedway Wide Tread F70x14:
F70/14 114-481-040 Speedway Wide Tread 4 Ply Poly RWL $150.00

Paul

[/ QUOTE ]

169indy
11-27-2005, 09:52 PM
I think I have been influenced by the pictures of the PACE CARS with the WT-GT's
Ref; Life Mag insert, Hugger pace car post card, Various 8 x 10 track car photos', Motor Trend Aug 1969 page 33 'Keeping the pace' ...Finally, pre-burnished brake pads are used with the four-wheel caliper discs (RPO-JL-8) from the Z28, which also supplied the 15 x 7 inch ralley wheels with F-70 x 15 Firestone Super Sport 200s or Goodyear Wide Tread GT's.
The key must be that the Track cars got the GT's on 15" rims. I would agree my spare might look neat but is not correct. I need to step up and order a set of the Wide Tread Size reproductions and mount on a spare set of rims and then enjoy! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif


Steve, The GoodYear Wide Tread F70-14 tire in your picture looks very nice.
I was looking a the the Camaro dealer sales brochure and the tires in the photo's of the Camaro SS all appear to be
GoodYear Wide Tread F70-14
or
Firestone Wide Oval F70-14
The photo's look as if the tire lettering was airbrushed on the tire walls after the fact. Not sure of the revision on the sales document (D-67140)

There was a thread earlier with some great info:
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/162842/page/0/fpart/all/vc/1
Lots of information to digest.

I have installed the NEW Firestones Firehawk INDY 500 radials (P225) Car is more stable.

Interesting side note May 1985 Camaro Corral 'Get out and Vote'
A pole was taken to help determine which tire would be reporduced by Keley Tire (Custom wide tread poly glass or Wide tread GT) 15".

Jim http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Alan X77 Hugger
11-28-2005, 02:42 AM
Interesting comment about needing to send tires back to Kelsey. I had the do the exact same thing, only I had to go through 10 tires to find 5 perfect ones for my 69Z. The sidewalls were blemished and were dull looking like some of the rubber came off. It was strange, anyway Kelsey was cool about it except for the fact like you mentioned. They make you pay for all of them until you return the defective ones. I had a couple grand in tires laying around my garage this past spring. Bottom line is that they look correct and I like them. Don't care how the car drives.

Hotrodpaul
11-28-2005, 03:48 PM
That concerns me that I may need to buy 10 tires to find 4 or 5 good ones. I wonder what kind of quality control they have at Kelsey Tire? Also, who pays for all the shipping for these defective tires as that can get expensive.

Is there someone who can be contacted at Kelsey to ensure a good set of tires?

Paul

njsteve
11-28-2005, 05:15 PM
Kelsey paid for all the shipping and had UPS or Fedex pick them up on their call tag.

Alan X77 Hugger
11-28-2005, 08:14 PM
Same here, Kelsey paid for all the shipping and they came Fed Ex. They would not pre-inspect the tires as they are all prewrapped in plastic. If you want these tires you have no choice that I know of. They are the only ones who make the tires. You can buy them from a re-seller, but they are all coming from Kelsey. You could not tell the tires were defective until you washed all the BLUE protectant off. If I had to do it all over again I would because I wanted the tires and they look better than the Firestone Sports Car 200's IMO

GM-26
11-28-2005, 10:10 PM
I must consider myself lucky. I purchased five Goodyear Polyglas GT F60's from Kelsey Tire and each of them were perfect.
Hey, This is post # <font color="red">454</font> for me!
Man, I have problems! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif