View Full Version : Just saw this in Old Cars Weekly
72Heaven
11-29-2005, 08:27 AM
Probably old news here but I didn't see anything on it (sorry I mostly lurk) but this would have been a neat find!
http://www.depereautocenter.com/
Evidently a Donald Schlag hoarded cars and GM hi-po parts including one, possibly two Yenkos, two LS6 Chevelles, and a ton of BBCs! (heck, I would have been happy with the 1967 RS/SS!)
The link is pics of some of his new finds...Tutenkamen's tomb was NOTHING! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
camarojoe
11-29-2005, 08:57 AM
wow! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif I love hoarders.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif I'd love to read the complete story...did this guy die or how did the collection come to light? Some amazing stuff there.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif
CamarosRus
11-29-2005, 10:45 AM
First person that hit my mind is Heartbeat Jimmy.....I can just imagine how certain people must be going absolutely crazy, trying to get a piece of this action. I would invest money into buying some of this, but will never have the connections to do so.
I hope we can hear much more on this story, as the details unfold........
enio45
11-29-2005, 12:30 PM
Unreal, id love to hear the story on this, did the guy pass away and left this stuff???? What do you think a collection like this is worth?? 2 or 3Million, more??
MosportGreen66
11-29-2005, 04:55 PM
My mouth hit the floor after seeing the cars... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
But the parts and engines he has must be worth double what the cars are worth...
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif
SS427
11-29-2005, 05:33 PM
That is just plain sick! Even the guy taking the pictures is so excited he can't hold the camera steady. What a gold mine that may take years to inventory. It would be interesting to get a list of engine VINs to see how many cars might be reunited with their engines.
markjohnson
11-29-2005, 07:28 PM
Those photos are absolutely hypnotic and I bet that was a nice little surprise when the Chevelle trunks were opened. This was one heck of a 401K plan for someone's retirement.
DarrenX33
11-29-2005, 08:48 PM
Anyone else notice the yellow engine block on the floor? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif
Pretty awesome discovery. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
budnate
11-29-2005, 09:57 PM
I saw it and many other things caught my eye..I almost passed out after clicking through some of the pics...a guy could make a fortune not selling any of it and just selling a tour through the stuff as is...Wowser!!!
chads454Ls6
11-29-2005, 10:21 PM
I heard about this stuff 2months ago. The guy passed away and his sister sold everything to one guy. I was told the first trailer they opened,had a yenko camaro and 2 ls6 chevelles.The guy welded the doors shut because some trailer had been broke into at one time and that is why it took them a wwhile to get inside. I had a hard time believing that this was real,but now i see the pictures and know it is true!
resto4u
11-29-2005, 11:42 PM
They are looking to sell everything to one person. The yenko is N615312 he said. But must be N615313 V.V Cooke, and low miles. Roger
PeteLeathersac
11-29-2005, 11:59 PM
And the women wonder what we want for Christmas? . It's almost too much to believe! . Like Rick said, I'd love to go through the engines checking suffixes and Vins! . Santa, if you're real please swing by this place for a sleigh load! ~ Pete
72Heaven
11-30-2005, 12:06 AM
Per the article, there may be a Yenko Deuce in there too... He evidently swapped out big blocks during the gas crunch, most of the BBC's are evidently Corvette engines, freshly rebuilt and then stored... He also swapped out the original engines in the cars (keeping them) just in case they were stolen, they wouldn't be numbers matching? Odd.
All of the trailers were welded shut and put end to end so they couldn't be opened or moved...
He supposedly drove around a rusty El Camino...all these great cars (I love Elcos...)but really!
camarojoe
11-30-2005, 12:13 AM
Just proves you never know what people have stashed away... the one lead you don't follow up on could be the gold mine you miss out on. I can't help but wonder how much the sister sold all this stuff for...I bet someone got a very good deal.
Alan X77 Hugger
11-30-2005, 12:24 AM
What I'm hearing is that the entire inventory was bought for $1M and the current owner is looking to double their money ($2M) also heard that Jay Leno may be a potential buyer.
Z-11 396
11-30-2005, 12:25 AM
Does anybody have any idea what value all that stuff would be worth from just the pictures of things you can tell what they are ?....Kasey .... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
SS427
11-30-2005, 12:53 AM
Just the eight cars pictured likely add up just $750-$1M. Add all the engines, carbs, fuel injection, exhaust, convertible tops, wheels, rear ends, bellhousing, transmissions, etc, etc, etc and it easily should add up to another $1M. Who knows? All you need is a couple cross ram Camaro hoods and/or complete set ups, some JL-8 rears and a few other high dollar parts and you could far exceed those numbers. I think a total package price of $2M would be very fair. If you were to e-bay these items individually, you could likely add another $1-2M but YEARS and a ton of work to do it. You could auction it all off but that would take many months to inventory and have the auction as well. Stay tuned. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif
Born30YrsLate
11-30-2005, 12:57 AM
I have more to say about this as soon as I get enough time to write...GRRRRRR
CamarosRus
11-30-2005, 01:00 AM
Look at the countless TAX FREE dollars you could turn on EBAY........Just cant imagine that Heartbeat City, and Chuck A (aka 427 king) are salivating to buy this, but would think cash flow would be an issue.......
Canuck
11-30-2005, 01:44 AM
Did someone spend a lot of time cleaning those parts and restoring those engines? They all look too clean to have come out of wrecked or parted out cars. Some of those engines look like thay were removed from freshly restored vehicles!!
DarrenX33
11-30-2005, 01:48 AM
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Jay Leno? That's not a steam powered Yenko...
camarojoe
11-30-2005, 01:55 AM
This looks like an M21 and shifter from a Yenko Deuce to me...
Deuce Trans? (http://www.depereautocenter.com/parts/100_0513.html)
A very unique setup, with the 69 Camaro shifter body and GTO benchseat stick... black knob and speedometer reducer still in place. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif
Seattle Sam
11-30-2005, 02:51 AM
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I have more to say about this as soon as I get enough time to write...GRRRRRR
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....well, Frederick???...
musclecarjohn
11-30-2005, 04:36 AM
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Look at the countless TAX FREE dollars you could turn on EBAY........Just cant imagine that Heartbeat City, and Chuck A (aka 427 king) are salivating to buy this, but would think cash flow would be an issue.......
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Oh you just know that Jim @ Heartbeat City is just CHOMPING at the bit to get to this stuff so he could triple his investment.
Looking at this stuff all I can say is: WOW! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif
As someone already mentioned,just charge admission to view it all! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif
JChlupsa
11-30-2005, 06:46 AM
Going to cost you more than the $3 mil + the guy paid for it.
GTO_DON
11-30-2005, 07:26 AM
WHOEVER BUFFED OUT THE YENKO SHOULD BE SHOT!! LOOK AT ALL THE SWIRLS.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif
55chevy
11-30-2005, 07:33 AM
I feel so poor..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif I could probably afford those red jackstands in the trunk of that Chevelle if I didn't already have a set of those cheap bastards..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
hep1966
11-30-2005, 07:47 AM
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WHOEVER BUFFED OUT THE YENKO SHOULD BE SHOT!! LOOK AT ALL THE SWIRLS.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif
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Why did they even clean them up? I could understand a simple wash but they should not have taken anything apart or buffed them.
musclecarjohn
11-30-2005, 08:31 AM
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I feel so poor..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif I could probably afford those red jackstands in the trunk of that Chevelle if I didn't already have a set of those cheap bastards..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
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Ha Ha Ha http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif
Born30YrsLate
11-30-2005, 08:49 AM
First you will notice in my signature that the "yenko" has been removed which only leaves a "copo"...so on with the show. OK I'll give you the short version which will probably end up being the long version so we'll call it my version. All of this started a while back with my trying to locate the lemans blue '69 yenko camaro that was sold out of Broadway Chevrolet in Green Bay, which has not been found yet to my knowledge. I found out in early june that there was still a '69 Yenko Camaro in Green Bay and I got the owners name (Dumpster Don) however I wasn't able to get ahold of him...come to find out he had recently died, I was then able to contact his brother (no help there...they didn't get along) and then his sister who I had found was the executor of his will....now let me tell you about Don Schlag...as you may have noticed earlier in the post he was affectionately nicknamed "Dumpster Don". His dad owned a farm implement dealership in Green Bay which was then given to him by his father which he ran. So you have a guy that's never been married with a decent cash flow from his own business that liked Chevy stuff - Great Recipe. Don would buy things and never sell them and he kept much of it in the basement of the implement building until he sold it at which point he had to move stuff out (that location now is an auto parts store) and the stuff went into trailers. He kept living in a "cracker jack box" house that was next to the dealership and if you walked in the front door that's about as far as you would get because there were Chevy parts piled all over the place. You may wonder how he got all those fuel injection units...well whenever people would have a problem with their poorly running injection unit he would simply trade them for a consistent intake/carb set up. About 10 years ago one of his trailers was broken into which is why the trailors were then all welded closed and placed through out the Green Bay area. I'm sure you are all interested in the Yenko Camaro...a little history first - in talking to a friend of mine he vividly remembers 2 '69 yenko camaros running around green bay in the '70s, one orange and the other green...no blue one...dealer trade perhaps? anyways, Don picked up the orange car around 1971 for either $1200 or $1500 bucks from the original owner and from what i have been able to find out the owner history is known (Don kept a record on the car) back to the original owner and the orange car was sold new through Broadway in Green Bay. Most of this info I have recently found out talking with people who knew Don many of which didn't know what he had because he was a very quiet person and never talked about much. Moving on...I was able to persue the car due to the assistance of a fellow syc member based on the potential selling price of the car (he will remain unnamed unless he wishes to make himself known and which I am very thankful to in allowing me the apportunity to persue the car without any worries) when I contacted Don's sister she had mentioned that she knew that Don a '69 Camaro and I told her I was interested in it as well as be willing to assist in any other way possible...long story short, we had a verbal agreement in late june/early july that I would get first chance at the car when they got around to them and she didn't think that they would get around to them until spring...so fall comes around and she tells me there has been a guy helping out and he's interested in the car and she thought it was only fair he got a chance as well...then come mid of November I call every month like she suggested for an update and she tells me that she sold the entire thing to the guy that was helping them out...which is Larry the current owner of the stuff...talk about your heart falling into your ass...I left out a lot of the conversational pieces between Don's sister and I just cause they don't need to be included, but the point here is and this goes with the topic of trusting someone's word and that is...DON'T trust somebody's word, especially when there is money involved...ALWAYS discuss a selling price and get a written document!...looking back it was difficult at the time to be aggressive yet patient seeing as how the brother had just died and not knowing the sister personally, but they wanted to sell everything so they wouldn't have to deal with it all and he was there with the cash...the family was asking $1 million for everything and Larry got it for a little less than that and he is looking for bids in the 7-figure range. Back when the stuff hadn't sold yet, the VIN number that Roger posted that he was told is the same VIN that I got from Don's sister off of the title which begs the question...where's the discrepancy come in...is it the VV Cooke car?...I could go on and on about this seeing as how I kept my mouth shut about this since late May only to have the car taken out from under me...but, I'm much wiser for it...what really upsets me is that this stuff was bought to flip, not for the love of the hobby but for the money to be made off of it...I will be viewing this stuff next week wednesday and will get as much info as possible...i guess since there is nothing to talk about in regards to the packers this season, something had to happen worth talking about...only is 'sconsin. Now onto the next great Wisconsin find!...
hvychev
11-30-2005, 08:59 AM
Wow.........Unfriggin believeable.........
Fred what happened to the other Yenko car?
JChlupsa
11-30-2005, 09:01 AM
That sucks. Kind of thought it might be one of the cars you were tracking down. Sorry it didnt work out for you
olredalert
11-30-2005, 09:14 AM
-------While I feel your pain (deeply) take a minute and think about the part of your post having to do with flipping. If you think about it, no one would buy this amount of stuff without thinking of rolling a bunch of the stuff over, even all of it. Theres too much money involved, plain and simple. To a whole bunch of people this is retirement type money here. Its not pretty, but thats the guts of it. I think you are being a gentleman and going about things the right way. Go to see the collection and go from there. Thanks for your candid report of the true story here as if you hadnt there would have been a whole bunch more rumors about this floating around.......Bill S
CamarosRus
11-30-2005, 09:58 AM
We dont know each other, but I'm also very sympathetic to your situation...........
Fred,
Here's another Wisconsin Yenko to track down. Not sure if its been found. This is from 1970 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/Lt1Mike/WiscYenko.jpg
Mike
jeff-san
11-30-2005, 06:26 PM
thanks for the story behind the story...people do strange things when money is involved. I guess if your Larry, life is good. I can only see one way to make things right in this case...Larry should offer to sell you the 69 Yenko and offer the rest of the lot to the deepest pockets. It probably wont happen but stranger things have happened.
ANDY M
11-30-2005, 08:09 PM
If Larry had 1mil in liquid cash to buy the lot, he might want to sell to Yenko to Fred, but I doubt it.
My GUESS is that if he took a short term loan to cover the purchase, he will want to flip the entire load as quickly as possible to avoid the interest charges, and maximize his profits. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif
JMHO, as we live in a capitalistic country.
Fred, I feel your pain, as I believe that you are a true car guy, and a stand up guy as well. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif
budnate
11-30-2005, 08:17 PM
Fred..been there on both sides had stuff sold out from under me..and also happened to call at the right time and have bought stuff..you played it the best you could with the sister, the timing was just off when it came time to talk money was all...
I look at this stuff a little different, I think it will be great to get it out in circulation again!!! the parts are only worth what the market will bare..and with that much stuff and the word spreading there may be hope of some cars and motors/trannies getting together again..I hope who ever buys it will sell it off and not stick it in there shop forever...now that would suck knowing all that stuff is just sitting....again.
Bill Pritchard
11-30-2005, 10:32 PM
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Toyota and White Freightliner Dealer http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif What a combination that is http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Fred, sorry to hear you got the shaft while Larry got the gold mine. Nice guys finish last....again http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Born30YrsLate
12-01-2005, 01:22 AM
Don't know Larry, but heard from a reliable source that he paid cash for it so he's probably not in a big hurry to sell. In regards to my flipping comment, I won't say too much cause I don't want to have anyone take what I type the wrong way, but I will say this...I'm sure Larry knew I wanted the Yenko based on conversations I had with Don's sister, but he had to have everything , he wasn't happy with everything minus the Yenko...which takes us to where we are now...it being bought for the sole reason of making money off it. I will also say this, I have met good people (such as Colin) who make a living off of selling classic cars and I think they provide a healthy service to the musclecar community by being able to connect people with cars they are looking for, however the manner in which I lost the car I am disgruntled about.
Frank - I haven't gotten any info on whether there is a Yenko Deuce or not, but when I do I will let everyone know.
My apologies if I offended anyone...
Xplantdad
12-01-2005, 01:44 AM
Fred,
Everything that you've said so far is very up front and reasonable. I can't imagine that you have offended anyone.
Thanks for your posts. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif
firstgenaddict
12-01-2005, 05:31 AM
check out the factory trunk seal with the paint stripes on it in this 70 Chevelle. one light blue one red.
70 Chevelle Weatherstrip (http://www.depereautocenter.com/parts/100_3685.html)
camaromb
12-01-2005, 06:50 AM
Fred,
A Lemans Blue Yenko Camaro that sold out of Broadway Chev. is currently in Iowa. Its the low mile original paint car. A Rallye Green Yenko Camaro from Broadway Chev. was restored by Brian Henderson. It was in Illinois by the early '70's.
Sorry to hear about another "the car is yours" story. We all have many more of these stories. It makes people with integrity that much more appreciated. There are fewer left these days it seems.
Good luck in your Copo search.
Mark
Born30YrsLate
12-01-2005, 07:26 AM
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Fred,
A Lemans Blue Yenko Camaro that sold out of Broadway Chev. is currently in Iowa.
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OH - when I looked through the records of the COPO Connection when they were still on Ed's website this car had not been marked as "known" so I just assumed to hadn't been found yet. Has this car been to the reunions and is owned by it's original owner? Anyone know how/when the Blue car ended up in Iowa...thanks for the update Mark
hvychev
12-01-2005, 08:31 AM
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat...e=2&fpart=1 (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=yenko&Number=88393&page=2 &fpart=1)
Here is that Blue Yenko Camaro Fred. The owner Donny Hood is a cool dude. One of the best. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Daves70SS
12-02-2005, 04:20 AM
If I were the local law enforcement I would have been all over that stuff when it was first uncovered after all these years and I would be checking the vin #s on all the engines,trans etc. and check them against old vehicle theft records to see if anything raises a red flag. Yes,maybe some big blocks were replaced for small blocks during the gas crunch but what about all those complete small blocks with the exhaust manifolds still attached that are there and the trans. with the shifters still attached to them. Maybe the trailers were welded shut and he didn't talk to anyone about his stash for a reason.It looks more like remnants of a 60's-70's chop shop. But the cars seem to have been purchased legally.
Just a thought.
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
Xelerator
12-02-2005, 06:31 AM
Hello all, I am a first time poster here and wanted to let you know that I got to meet Larry F. tonight (12/1/05), who is a very nice man by the way, and view his new collection. I took over 100 pics and wanted to share the Yenko pics with you guys. Larry did not have a problem with me doing this so I feel comfortable showing them off to you! I know I did not get some very important detail pics but it was cold and dark in that shed and I to be honest, I don't know what to look for! I tried my best. Note, the pics of the big block by itself is supposibly the original 427 out of this Yenko. I just wanted to share these with you guys and hope you get some use from them. Thanks! http://www.aasencamaros.com/Yenko.html
Rainer
12-02-2005, 06:56 AM
Cool - thanks for providing these pix. You never know, depending on what happens with the sale and who the car goes to, we may never have seen pix of the unrestored car.
firstgenaddict
12-02-2005, 08:41 AM
Good Job especially on the firewall/cowl... the two holes to the right of the cowl tag are for a Stewart Warner Tach sending unit (if you didn't know)
PeteLeathersac
12-02-2005, 05:07 PM
Makes a fella' weak just looking at these pics....nice job on the detail shots! . What a car....and that MN suffix is a beautiful thing! . I'm just wowed by it all....and feeling sorry for you Fred. ~ Pete
zmanrc
12-02-2005, 05:19 PM
Derek (Xelerator) welcome aboard. This is a great place and one of the most informative sites on the net.
Great pics, can't wait to see the rest. At least it proves this is not just an urban ledgend LOL
Zedder
12-02-2005, 05:38 PM
Thanks Xelerator. How much does Larry want for the collection?
Mr Yenko
12-02-2005, 10:57 PM
Did anyone make out the last 3 digits to the BDY #. Curious to see how close it is to our 03B Yenko.
The "MOF"
Xelerator
12-03-2005, 12:14 AM
Thanks for the Welcomes, I know there is alot to learn and this seems the place to do it! cool! Like the drilled holes were for a Stewart Warner Tach! I love info like that! Thanks.
I did ask Larry what kind of offers he has gotten, but he did not want to give that information, he also did not want to give how much he paid.
Mr Yenko, I do have higher Res pics at home, I will check as soon as I get home, I am sure I can tell from them.
Born30YrsLate
12-03-2005, 04:49 AM
Met with Larry tonight (yes, we've now met)...that's another story in itself...got pics, will post them as soon as I downsize them...some numbers of interest that I found:
VIN off of car is 124379N615312, the axle stamping is BE0306 (easy to see with mirror but very difficult to take a picture, hold a mirror and flashlight and sucking in my gut under the car), Fisher Body number is 219789, engine pad stamping as noted in previous pics is TO304MN and the stamping on the engine by the oil filter is 19N615312...barley legible that I couldn't get it to show up in pics. The block casting number I couldn't make out. Its got the holes for the tach monitor and tach...odometer show 45556 miles. He also mentioned the car has the original numbers matching trans (didn't look but shoulda)...pics coming soon...
Oh yeah...the big day is December 15...met some guys from the far east with a funny accent (Boston)...one guy was worse than a kid in a candy store...he was practically leading me around the parts by the cuff of my jacket...great guys...
DarrenX33
12-03-2005, 05:00 AM
Gotta love that nice firewall paint fade. Oh if I could do it over again... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
Rainer
12-03-2005, 05:16 AM
So we'll all be waiting on the story with Larry.
What's with the big day?
Born30YrsLate
12-03-2005, 05:26 AM
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That is the day of the auction...there is a reserve, but he wouldn't devulge
Also, no Yenko Deuce to be found...here some pics for starters... PICS (http://photobucket.com/albums/c159/uwpme/GB%20Yenko/)
That car is 3 body numbers away from my Yenko. What dealer sold it originally?
Born30YrsLate
12-03-2005, 05:58 AM
Larry said original owner states it was sold new through Broadway in Green Bay as a Yenko. Larry also gave me the names of all the owners. Anybody want to get an NICB on this one. Owner history goes...original owner bought it from Broadway in Green Bay then traded it in for an Oldsmobile the next year and the car was then put on a wholesale lot where the 2nd owner bought it, but went into the service in 1971 and sold it to "Dumpster Don" until Larry bought it this past fall...
It was crazy how many 074 (round exhaust port ones) and 392 aluminum big block heads there were and how many of them were in the box yet...corvette big brakes...trannies (lot of m21s)...it was very interesting, it's a different experience than seeing the pictures cause you can actually appreciate the large quantity of good stuff...
tyguy
12-04-2005, 05:14 AM
I have a few questions reguarding the orange Yenko.
Why doesn't it have the SYC head rest covers?
Are the rear emblems misaligned or am I just being thrown off?
How come the driver side fender doesn't appear to have ever had a Yenko emblem on it?
Why does the stripe run so far forward to the front?
I'm no Yenko expert, but I thought some of these things looked out of place based on what I've seen. Is it possible this is just a COPO? Again, I'm not the expert and I was just wondering. Thanks guys. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif
olredalert
12-04-2005, 05:48 AM
--------While what you say is notable, it appears that this cars history is almost written in stone. Its much more likely under the circumstances, being unrestored and pretty much un-cared for all these years, that the car just went thru early ownership trauma as probably 98% of all these old cars did back in the day. They were used hard and put away wet for the most part and often early owners made changes that they wanted to make because they wanted to, not because a group of knowledgeable people were lurking around telling them what was right or wrong!
--------Accidents happened all the time back then with that kind of horsepower on tap and the very best body shop in the area wasnt always available to bring the car back to absolutely new condition. Often the owners didnt care quite as much as we now know they should have about the "aesthetics". It was more important to get the car operational again, quickly. Friday nights came around fast back then and a guy had to have his ride ready for battle!!!
--------Oh, and the Yenkos rear emblems are all like that on 1969 Camaros as far as I know...........Bill S
camarojoe
12-04-2005, 06:01 AM
The car has obviously had at least a partial repaint, and the stripes look to have been painted back on it, sans any Yenko wording on the 1/4 panel stripes, and some artistic freedom expressed in the layout of the stripes themselves. orange overspray is also seen in the front fenderwells, which indicates a repaint in that area as well...the hood decal stripe does look to be original. More than a few documented cars didn't get any sYc logos on the headrests, and many more were removed by the owners on day 2. Emblem placement varied from car to car, and some didn't get any at all... there's really not one "correct" way they were built, as plenty of variations to the Yenko add-ons have been documented. The grill looks to have been replaced, or at least has been painted black, as it would have originally been silver, shifter is not original, etc... while it may not have been touched in 25 years, it has obviously had some work done to it since new. With that said, it is still an awesome discovery.
Why is the VIN not listed here? Is there a typo on the list as it is one VIN off the car shown on the list.
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/76004/an/0/page/0#76004
Body number is three away from mine so it seems pretty certain it was part of the batch ordered by Yenko.
camaromb
12-05-2005, 05:25 PM
Since not all of the Yenko inventory sheets have been circulated there are still missing vin numbers. This car is on page 5 of the Yenko Camaro inventory sheets.I don't think this page has been circulated and not all the vin numbers are known.
Mark
Well the list posted on this site totals 198 cars (I did not count to verify) which is the generally accepted number of cars excluding the Jack Douglas cars ordered directly. Therefore is there a typo on the list or is this the 199th car?
YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
12-05-2005, 08:19 PM
198, 199 or 201 - take your pick, nobody really knows! Could be a typo as well, there were several sources for the vin lists - including Don's sheets which also contained numerous typos. If you recall, when the lists were published the instruction was to use them as a guide, not a sole source.
Chevy454
12-05-2005, 09:48 PM
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Exactly, M...this should be the case with *anyone's* lists. No one has the total list of Yenko cars...
So what is the thought, a typo or another car to be added to the list?
YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
12-05-2005, 11:03 PM
I'm not sure yet, we need to nail down the originating dealer - might be Yunkers, if so, it might be a typo otherwise it might be a newbie.
resto4u
12-05-2005, 11:34 PM
Roger-
Thank you for your interest in the collection. Because we are currently seeking a buyer for the whole lot we are not selling individual cars or parts. At this point we are seeking a private buyer and they are not up for auction. The collection is too difficult to inventory at this point, and it needs to be seen if one were to buy it. We do have a partial list of what we have, but it is far from complete. If you are interested in examining the lot, please call us.
Thanks!
De Pere Auto Center
705 George St.
De Pere, WI 54115
920.336.2200
[email protected] This is the reply i got today. Nothing about an auction. Roger
That's good to know,cause I got the same response.
I feel better now,as I thought they were pissed We gave the Pack got an "L" Sunday and they were shining me on.
copojoe
12-06-2005, 02:26 AM
Cool Find, i can't believe all that stuff! All i wan't is a set of the 074 aluminum heads! Sell Sell http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif
Born30YrsLate
12-06-2005, 04:46 AM
I just got off the phone with Larry and he said he is definitely taking the bids on the 15th of December...he is going to spread the word a little more.
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif
In my next post I'll tell you the story about "Friday Night with Larry"...I will tell you this, he's a real nice guy so if any of you haven't talked to him about this stuff yet feel free to do so. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif
My wife just emailed me this from one of her co-workers. It gives some additional details about the transaction. I have no idea who wrote it or where it originated. Interesting about the Yenko Nova??? I'm assuming they mean a Deuce center cap?
"Huge muscle car stash found!
Larry Fisette had no idea whether he was buying King Tut's tomb or Al Capone's vault when he agreed to buy 21 trailers said to be full of Corvettes and Chevrolet muscle cars and parts. Luckily, all of the rumors he had heard whispered around his northeast Wisconsin home turned out to be more true than he ever dreamed.
So far, Fisette, a De Pere, Wisconsin, restorer and automotive repair shop proprietor, has opened 17 of the 21 sealed trailers one-by-one and found a Yenko Camaro with 45,000 miles; a pair of low-mileage 1970 LS-6 Chevelles; a 1972 Camaro Z/28; two 1957 Corvettes, one a fuel-injected car, the other a dual-four-barrel-equipped example; and several other Chevrolet performance cars. Filling in the space around the cars like water around pebbles is an inventory of NOS and used performance parts that would make a Nickey Chevrolet parts manager jealous, and Fisette is not done cracking trailers open. He's also confident there's more muscle hidden in the trailers.
How the trailers came to be full of new Corvette side exhaust systems, factory Corvette race parts, and highly desirable engines and parts is as interesting as the man who filled them.
Donald Schlag's passion for Chevrolet performance cars, even when they were new, gave him the foresight to realize that someday, others would have just as much interest in them. So while he was working at his father's John Deere dealership, Green Bay Implement, Schlag began buying the parts from the local Chevrolet dealer's parts counter in the 1960s and stored them at the John Deere dealership. He also made annual trips to California, pulling a trailer behind an RV for a month at a time in order to retrieve more parts for his stash. When his father died and the dealership was liquidated in the early 1970s, he tucked the parts and cars in semi trailers.
But when the very people who Schlag was saving parts for betrayed him by stealing a part, Schlag stopped sharing his collection. He even went so far as to completely seal the trailers off once they were full. By butting the trailers up against each other, not even he could go back in them. Schlag also stopped driving the cars he collected after one of his Corvettes was keyed in a parking lot. From that point on, he swapped the engines and slipped the cars into the trailers, never to be gazed upon again.
Many local car collectors believe the reason why Schlag pulled the engines from his cars and installed a different engine before he put them away was to thwart thieves, since the cars wouldn't be numbers-matching. Even rare parts, like a first-generation race Corvette gas tank, was separated from its two filler neck pieces and its parts spread between three trailers. Another theory to explain why Schlag swapped and separated engines was because he predicted the engines would be worth more than the cars, so he pulled the hot engine from most of the cars and put a slightly less desirable engine in its place.
Despite his unfortunate interaction with some of his fellow hobbyists, Schlag remained friendly. When scouring car shows and swap meets around Chicago, Milwaukee, and Green Bay for more parts in his rusty El Camino, he could be found engaged in a conversation in which he would even mention if he had a part or a car.
"He'd talk about what he had, but he didn't brag and he didn't sell anything," said Fisette, who met Schlag before his June, 2005, death on two occasions. Through these brief interactions, people began to piece together what he had hiding.
And while no one knew exactly what Schlag had, Schlag knew what they had in their garage. By being the local expert on fuel injection units and offering other mechanical services, Schlag became acquainted with cars in the area, which also helped him feed his collection.
"There was a rumor that Don would remove your big-block and install a small-block [as a gas-saving measure during the second fuel crisis]," Fisette said. This would explain why about half of the engines Fisette has uncovered are big-block Chevrolet engines.
Upon learning that Schlag passed away, Fisette took a chance on acquiring the collection and contacted Schlag's family.
"I called her [Schlag's sister's] number, told her my name, and said I'd buy everything and told her I had the capability to buy and disperse it all," Fisette said. After checking with other hobbyists, Schlag's family decided that Fisette was the right person to buy the collection.
"We were so lucky to find Larry," said Joanne Stepien, Don Schlag's sister. "I received several phone calls [from people interested in buying the collection], so I took their names and numbers. I had about five different people to choose from." Stepien then researched the reputations of each party, and Fisette was the only person to come back with stellar credentials.
Once the deal was sealed, Fisette was ready to break down the doors of the trailers to see what he bought, and the first trailer he opened didn't let him down.
"I hadn't seen inside any of the trailers. I did it all on Donny's reputation," Fisette said. "The first trailer I opened had two [1970 Chevelle] LS-6s in it," he said. "It was absolutely total amazement." The Chevelles were parked bumper-to-bumper in the trailer, and the first he gazed upon was a gold four-speed, bench-seat car that Fisette soon realized was the LS-6 Chevelle his neighbor bought new. Fisette even remembers the day the neighbor brought it home from the dealership and showed it to him. Regardless of his memory of the car, Fisette prefers the Chevelle parked in front of the gold, four-speed car: a blue Chevelle with bucket seats and an automatic transmission, which he considers more driveable.
Unearthing the Yenko Camaro shortly thereafter was obviously an exciting experience for Fisette, but it was opening a trailer full of factory performance engines that made the hair on the back of his neck stand up.
"The most exciting moment was when I opened up a trailer and saw shiny engines up one side and down the other, and then two stacked shelves of them," Fisette recalled. More than 150 high-performance engines have been found, in addition to 14 nice, low-mileage cars, but the bulk of trailers contain parts. And lots of them.
Since finding the trailers, Fisette has organized the parts in a warehouse to best determine what he has. While looking down the line of engines, Fisette smiled at a complete engine for a 1969 Camaro Z/28 engine and asked, "Isn't that pretty? It's a DZ-302 that's complete down to the breather!" The Camaro 302-cid engine is one of approximately six such engines he's found, and he's hopeful that it and many of the other engines will land back in the cars they originally came from, right down to the cast-iron COPO 427-cid engine block he's found.
"I think it's going to give people a chance to make their cars correct," he said. One hobbyist has already contacted Fisette to ask if he has the original engine to his Nova, which was sold to Schlag many years ago following an engine transplant. Although Fisette plans to sell all of the parts in one lot, he said he would try to reunite the Nova owner with his car's original engine.
For Fisette, the hunt was more fun than the catch, and he wants to share that experience with fellow car collectors. Pointing to a 1958 Corvette radio, he said, "Imagine how happy this is going to make somebody."
A happy man himself, Fisette is thoroughly enjoying the challenge presented to him. "I've done nothing but empty trailers since September," Fisette said while surrounded by all the parts he's organized in his warehouse. "I walk in here and feel like Scrooge McDuck. I can remember as a kid thinking, 'I'd kill for a four-speed.' Now look how many I have got!"
Finding such parts continues to be a treasure hunt in itself. Each time he opens a trailer, Fisette doesn't know if he'll find it filled cars or SS wheels hanging from the ceiling, engines lining the walls, and 55-gallon drums filled with performance heads and crankshafts. And even when he finds a trailer loaded with cars, he's never sure if he'll find another stash of fuel-injection units or Corvette knock-off wheels in the cars' trunks as he has on several occasions.
Regardless of his few interactions with Schlag, Fisette feels he's come to understand the man, and if he's right, there are more surprises great cars and parts waiting to be found. One of those potential surprises may be another Yenko car. Fisette has found a rust-free front clip for a Nova in one trailer, a hubcap center specific to a Yenko Nova in another trailer, and he's heard that Schlag owned a Yenko Nova with a damaged front clip. Combined with the fact he has a title and keys to a Nova, Fisette is confident he'll soon uncover another muscle car icon from the Canonsburg, Pennsylvania, dealership. "I've really got to know him through this puzzle," Fisette said.
Larry Fisette is a worthy caretaker to the cars and parts collected by Donald Schlag, because he'll make sure that the cars and parts end up in the hands Schlag was saving them for."
Mike
musclecarjohn
12-08-2005, 01:47 AM
Thanks for the post Mike,it was interesting reading.
Man...I wish he'd check to see if one of those DZ's is mine! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif
vfitom
12-08-2005, 02:11 AM
A legitimate, and not-made-up find like this size will NEVER happen again. Everything is separated, tagged, shelved, so NEW buyer could see what he is getting. Thats alot of work. Must say those valve covers in that Yenko camaro look TOO clean........
SS427
12-08-2005, 03:03 AM
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Oh yes it will...............
vfitom
12-08-2005, 05:11 AM
Come to think of it, an older gent near me is hoarding all makes of NOS parts. Same deal-you can't get through the house and business. No cars though.
Rainer
12-08-2005, 05:22 AM
There's updated info on the guy's business website. Looks like it may be possible to buy individual cars/items...
"Currently, we are looking to sell the vehicles and the cars in one lot. We are accepting sealed bids until December 15, 2005. If they are not sold by that time, the collection will be sold part by part, car by car."
Rainer
12-08-2005, 05:32 AM
Wow, just checked again, and just today they added details re: individual items. Here's a link to the page with info on the engines, including VINs for some of them!
http://www.depereautocenter.com/parts/catalog/engines.htm
SS427
12-08-2005, 06:14 AM
That LS-6 is very near Red Alert. Likely built same day or on either side of it. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
drdave69
12-08-2005, 04:20 PM
Here is one of the engines listed as a COPO. Wasn't this car just discussed here recently?
20 3963512 T0304MN 19N615312 BB 427 425hp 1969 L72 copo 9561 4spYenko
Yes, that COPO engine belongs in the Yenko Camaro shown on the site.
Born30YrsLate
12-09-2005, 03:22 AM
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So we'll all be waiting on the story with Larry.
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Ok - here's the rest of the story. Last Friday night as we were talking Larry inquired as to why I'm into classic cars and I tell him it's not just old cars I'm into it's all that stuff...old jukeboxes, car parts, beer memorabilia and etc...so he tells me to save some pics. We walk back to his other shop and he shows me this room (click me) (http://photobucket.com/albums/c159/uwpme/LarryShop/?action=view&current=Pc020043.jpg) and it has some old gas pumps, old toys and old peanut roasting machine, soda fountains and other neat stuff...and this old Whizzer Motorcycle (http://photobucket.com/albums/c159/uwpme/LarryShop/?action=view&current=Pc020046.jpg) which I figured you guys would like cause you guys talk about these old motors and this one is still new with the price tag (http://photobucket.com/albums/c159/uwpme/LarryShop/?action=view&current=Pc020047.jpg) . After checking out this room he takes me through another door to his party room pic 1 (http://photobucket.com/albums/c159/uwpme/LarryShop/?action=view&current=Pc020049.jpg) pic 2 (http://photobucket.com/albums/c159/uwpme/LarryShop/?action=view&current=Pc020050.jpg) pic 3 (http://photobucket.com/albums/c159/uwpme/LarryShop/?action=view&current=Pc020055.jpg) pic 4 (http://photobucket.com/albums/c159/uwpme/LarryShop/?action=view&current=Pc020054.jpg) pic 5 (http://photobucket.com/albums/c159/uwpme/LarryShop/?action=view&current=Pc020053.jpg) and I melted...I don't know who was smiling bigger, myself or Larry because of the smile on my face. I know it's not another big car story but I thought I'd share this stuff you all because I'm sure you guys think its SUPERcool as well. I'm glad I got to meet Larry and he is one of the nicest guys I have met.
Oh - I was at Larry's last night for a garage session (party) he was having and in his body shop was a nova front clip with 350 badging but as far as I know a car to put it on has not been found yet.
Damn that man is in it!
Show that Whizzer pic to Kwhizz when he comes back next week.
I like that full ECO air meter station w/light. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Great stuff!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif
Enoch
12-17-2005, 02:01 AM
Ok if I read this thread right the sealed bids were to be in by the 15th of December, sooooo...... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
Born30YrsLate
12-17-2005, 02:38 PM
heard the lot sold...Larry's gone for the weekend so I'll have to wait to confirm...
kwhizz
12-17-2005, 04:14 PM
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heard the lot sold...Larry's gone for the weekend so I'll have to wait to confirm...
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Charley?????????????????????????????? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif
Ken
Charley Lillard
12-17-2005, 05:31 PM
I'm guessing Heartbeat City bought the stuff. The buyer would need to be in the business to deal with all those parts. Dealing with all that stuff would mean a life change for someone not already in the business.
SS427
12-17-2005, 06:05 PM
I heard it went for some crazy money???? I did not see those kind of dollars there but who knows? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
Rick
Stefano
12-17-2005, 08:59 PM
Rick,
What were you thinking the current maket value of the Lot is?
Rainer
12-17-2005, 10:08 PM
Interesting observation, Rick. I know I was surprised when I looked at the list of engines and saw lots of truck motors. Its not as though everything was rare and desirable.
SS427
12-18-2005, 04:06 AM
Stephano,
What it was worth and what I would have been willing to pay are two different things. If you were a Corvette collector, you would have been in heaven. I was just hoping for more Chevelle and Camaro stuff then there was. Much of the parts were also later release items and not all that valuable. The engines for the most part were also not H/P and as was stated were mostly truck blocks. Still very cool collection and Larry was a super guy and very accomadation. I have a local friend who likely has a larger collection mostly comprised of Chevelle and Camaro parts. Thats what gets my heart pumping.
Rick
firstgenaddict
12-20-2005, 11:14 PM
Exactly alot of the stuff was replacement parts with later date codes... however the early big brake Vettes and parts would be worth a fortune to some guys.
machinist
12-22-2005, 06:16 AM
does anyone know who bought the stuff yet or rumors of what they gave. I would have loved to just go see all of the stuff.
rock
supersport69
12-22-2005, 06:37 AM
Here's what I just saw posted on there web site.
*****UPDATE*****
At this point we have not found a buyer for the whole lot of cars and parts. We would like to thank all that have visited and inquired about the cars and the parts. We have been truly blessed to meet so many people who share the love of cars that we have. We have received many calls, emails, and letters about the cars and parts. We have tried to respond to as many as possible in a timely fashion.
While we still have a few interested parties in the whole lot, this is a large lot and it makes for a complex transaction. If nobody buys the whole lot, we will sell some of the cars and the parts will be sold individually. For many items this is the only fair way to sell them as we have had multiple inquiries on many of the parts. If we do end up selling the items individually, we will start listing on Ebay Friday night, December 30. We will post on this website when we know more.
ChevyThunder
12-23-2005, 07:05 AM
Hello everyone and Happy Holidays ! Newbie on this board and just wanted to chime in my experience on this find.
When I spoke to Larry about two weeks ago I had made arrangements to fly to Green Bay from California.There was a link to this thread on Team Camaro where I am a member. When I checked this thread out I discovered that Larry was taking bids. My impression was that I could go there and make a firm deal to purchase, not just look and then have to bid . I cancelled my trip as I did not want to participate in that kind of deal.Larry was very nice on the phone. I spoke to him many times. He told me the two 57 Corvettes were not for sale as two of the family members of the previous owner wanted those cars back.He indicated to me that he would sell the lot for somewhere between 1mm and 1.1 million .
My interest was in the Yenko only. I have a friend who is a caretaker for a large car collection in N. California that was going to take the rest of the collection...all I want is a real 1969 , 427 Camaro...is that too much to ask http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif ?
Motion Camaro
12-23-2005, 10:46 AM
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Hello everyone and Happy Holidays ! Newbie on this board and ...
...all I want is a real 1969 , 427 Camaro...is that too much to ask http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif ?
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<font color="blue">Welcome to the best board on the net.
Enjoy your stay, a lot of info here. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif </font>
...I heard someone in Maryland bought it all and will be listing alot of it on Ebay...anyone else hear that? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
Who ended up w/the Yenko?
Hotrodpaul
06-19-2006, 09:33 PM
The whole story was displayed in the new issue of Hot Rod so it's public knowledge now. The article showed the Yenko but did not say if it was sold.
Paul
Stefano
06-20-2006, 03:59 AM
I was told by Larry that the Yenko was one of the cars that the new owner wanted to keep, but that most of the parts would be sold off, preferably as a lot.
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