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Xplantdad
12-05-2005, 02:20 AM
In October of 1968 Harry, (the original owner) left for Vietnam, during his year in Vietnam, he had time to think of what he would spend his money on when he returned home. He decided on a Harley Davidson motorcycle and a Camaro.


He returned home in October of 1969, and by December had bought a 900cc Sportster, in late 69, early 70, Harry went back and forth on what to buy, a Corvette or Camaro. A friend, who was a car guy, told him for the money, the 1970 Z28 was the car to get. So in early April 1970, he went into Al Hanoute Chevrolet, in Lake Orion Michigan, not being a car guy, he wasn't sure what to order on his car, but thought the 4:10 rear end and Rock Crusher Transmission sounded good to him. He didn't include the sport mirrors, but after seeing one on the showroom floor, wondered if he should have added them. When the salesmen filled out the order, he added them without Harry knowing.


The last week in April, he started driving through the lot, wondering if his car had come in, he saw one that was like his, except it had the sport mirrors. Harry was pleasantly surprised when the salesmen told him about the order change he had made and that he didn't have to take it, but Harry was glad for the change.


On April 21st 1970, he took delivery, the total cost was $2800.00 dollars. Wanting to build credit, he paid $2,000 cash and financed the $800. Harry kept the loan until September of 70 and paid it off, not having the loan long enough the bank sent him a letter (which I got with the cars paperwork) thanking him for his business but that he hadn't built any credit.


He drove the car about 5000 miles the first year; he had a VW daily driver so if the weather looked bad he always drove the VW. It hardly ever saw rain and never saw snow. The mileage dropped off year after year, finally parking it in the early 80s for no real reason other than loss of interest and now a family.


Fast forward to Sept 2004, my brother, who worked with Harry, heard that he had an old Camaro stuck in his garage, that had been sitting for years. My brother, knowing I was into 70 Z28s asked him what year the car was, which he said 70 Camaro, he didn't say Z28. So after getting his phone number and calling, Harry told me it was a SS 350 car, he honestly didn't know or remember what he had. But then he told me it had a Corvette motor in it, I said oh yeah, does it have stripes? He replied YES, now my heart was beating faster, it had to be a Z, he went on to tell me the story and that it really had never been touched and still had the original tires on it. Trying to hold back my excitement I asked him if I could come and look at the car, just to take pictures and to document a few things, not wanting to spook him too early.


We agreed on a time and date and to my surprise, it was only about 20 minutes from home. He told me if I wanted to hear it run I would have to bring a battery because he couldn't remember the last time he had started it. When I got to his house, the garage door was open and I could see the distinctive rear end of a 70 Z28. Like most cars that have been sitting for over 20 years without a cover on it, it was filthy, you couldn't see through the glass, it really looked pretty sad sitting there. I opened the door to find white and black hounds tooth deluxe interior that looked brand new. The driver’s seat looked a little dirty but the others looked like they had never been sat in. The engine compartment seemed to be all there but was a real mess.


He insisted on me starting the car, I told him that I’m sure the gas was bad and who knows what else was wrong with it. Harry said it ran good when he parked it, I hadn't even asked if it was for sale yet. I got my battery, pulled the coil wire, checked the oil and cranked it until the oil pressure light went out, then I put the coil wire back on and it fired right up and even idled. So I backed it out of the garage and let it warm up, I even took it down the street and back, it ran great.


I finally got the nerve to ask him if he ever thought about selling it, and he said that it’s been sitting here for years, in the way, and that his daughter was getting married so if there ever was a time, it was now. After about a week of negotiating a price, we finally came to an agreement. I told him I would be there to pick it up with my enclosed trailer. I never figured it would happen, and thought for sure he would back out. But I never heard from him, so I went to get it with my fingers crossed hoping things would work out.


After pictures of Harry and me in front of the car, and a few tears from his wife, (which made me feel guilty) she said “I went on my first date in this car and it’s in our wedding pictures.” I loaded the Camaro, collected all the paperwork he could find on the car and I was off. It was a great feeling knowing it was finally mine.


The next 9 months I was busy cleaning, with every type of brush, soap and solvents I could find. I cleaned every square inch of this car, careful not to destroy any of it originality. I didn't want to disassemble anything, so it was a long and tedious job, most of which was overhead with everything running down your arms and dripping in my face. I can say that I never touched a can of paint or restored one part even though it was tough at times. Some parts look rough but its 35 years old and that’s the way it should look.


Last June the car received Vintage Legends class certification at Carlisle, it was great to see and hear all the people appreciate the fact that it’s all original and not just another restored car.

Stuart Adams
12-05-2005, 02:33 AM
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif Wow, great car and story. Looks really good.

Steve Shauger
12-05-2005, 03:13 AM
What a great story. An absolutely magnificent car and a great guy as well. A job well done of cleaning and preserving the car.
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

BillD
12-05-2005, 03:21 AM
Great find, great car and great job of cleaning it up. Love those short spoiler 70 Z's.

Lynn
12-05-2005, 03:37 AM
I am speechless. Officially without speech.

kwhizz
12-05-2005, 03:40 AM
Jack......Look's like the car is in very good hands...Congratulations........Nice Job!!!!!!

Ken

70 copo
12-05-2005, 04:24 AM
Jack,

You got a GREAT Z. Would look http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif next to mine!

Good story and Nice car. They are only original once!!

Phil http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Belair62
12-05-2005, 04:33 AM
I've been waiting a long time to see Jacks car here !!! Thanks Jack...awsum car !

DaveC68
12-05-2005, 04:35 AM
WOW http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif Awesome!!

If Bruce keeps featuring these cars I predict I'll soon be able to add it to my list of "cars I can't afford"!!

Dave Rifkin
12-05-2005, 04:47 AM
Jack that's an amazing story and an equally amazing car.

Mr70
12-05-2005, 04:50 AM
That really is Somethin Else!

Alan X77 Hugger
12-05-2005, 05:03 AM
Jack,
That is a beautiful car! It would look perfect next to my Hugger Orange, Black Stripe, Black Top 69Z. Isn't your other car Citrus Green? I bet they look cool sitting side by side!
What a story and History. Also Great Find!!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

70-SS/RS-L78
12-05-2005, 05:25 AM
This is an Incredible car with an incredible owner; I can not even begin to tell you how much
Information we have been able to gather on the 70-71Z/28 Camaro’s from Jack and his car.
What an asset to the Sec Gen community. It must be awful tempting to want to put paint can
or restore the parts on this car….
Thanks Again Jack….

Seattle Sam
12-05-2005, 05:30 AM
What a gorgeous car - man, I love those 70's http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Jack, in that shot of the rear wheel well, is that orange overspray or is it primer on the frame rail area?
Thanks,
-Sam

70Z
12-05-2005, 05:37 AM
Congrats Jack, neat story and a cool car. And you know that besides you, no one is more thrilled you found this car than me http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

70-SS/RS-L78
12-05-2005, 06:13 AM
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif
I bet you are Tom

Zedder
12-05-2005, 07:26 AM
Gorgeous car! Congrats http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

mockingbird812
12-05-2005, 05:38 PM
Orange, M22, '70, Z28, houndstooth - Holy Mackerel! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif Very nice ride. Your hard work paid off. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

TimG
12-05-2005, 06:01 PM
Amazing Z. I've really gotten into the 2nd generation Z 28's and think they are one of my favorite cars. I've read your write-up and didn't see the current mileage, it looks like a very low mile car.

jeff-san
12-05-2005, 07:14 PM
what a killer find...she's a beauty!

jeff-san
12-05-2005, 07:26 PM
would it possible to see pictures of the car in it's as found condition? It may give some of us hope for preserving a cars originality instead of quickly running to the full resto route....thanks again for sharing your incredible find!

MosportGreen66
12-05-2005, 07:35 PM
Loved watching the progress over at www.nastyz28.com (http://www.nastyz28.com)
Your work has paid off. Stunning example!

Z-11 396
12-05-2005, 08:20 PM
The car look's great, you really did a job of getting it in top shape, fantastic story as well.....Kasey .... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Jacsey 70Z
12-06-2005, 12:03 AM
Thanks for all the kind words, These cars aren't for everyone but I love the look, smell, feel, drive of a unrestored car. This car would be so easy to restore but it just wasn't far enough gone to do a full restoration.
The wheel well shot is body color on the rails, there is as much Hugger Orange on the rails as the top of the car.
Here is the other side wheel well.
Thanks Again everyone.

http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL17/1627096/5944722/120967600.jpg

CamarosRus
12-06-2005, 12:49 AM
Jack, Before you get more comments and questions on your award winning survivor......thought it might be stated that the exhaust was replaced with NOS muffler, Gardner pipes and SEYMOUR hangars.

Jacsey 70Z
12-06-2005, 01:02 AM
Thanks Chuck!!

musclecarjohn
12-06-2005, 04:27 AM
All I can say is...

GOTTA LOVE HUGGER ORANGE! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

Beautiful car, love the vinyl top too.My car had one too but was removed very early on.

Enjoy it. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Late BrakeU2
12-06-2005, 04:49 AM
"it’s been sitting here for years, in the way, and that his daughter was getting married so if there ever was a time, it was now."

This happens to me nightly,then the alarm clock goes off..
Glad it went to a deserving second owner!

dwright406
12-06-2005, 06:22 AM
Beautiful example of an original early 2nd gen!
It's hard to believe cars like this are out there, awaiting their next owner.

Good job!

12bolt
12-06-2005, 07:56 AM
Total Time Capsule!

TDW
12-06-2005, 01:26 PM
The car is fantastic. I saw it within a day or two of Jack getting it home. If there were an award of some sorts for putting the most effort into cleaning, Jack would surely win it. He has worked his a** off. Nice job Jack.

Johnny Horsepower
12-06-2005, 06:46 PM
Great great car!
I really want this to happen to me.........soon

CamarosRus
02-09-2018, 04:22 PM
What GREAT MEMORIES of Jack Seymour and one of the Most Attractive 70 Z28's ever !!!!

Jack was a judge and a fixture at every Camaro Nationals in the early years at Carlisle.
I miss him and his Z28 !!!!!!!!!

The Camaro was sold to a private (unknown) collector in Calif.

GearheadSS
02-09-2018, 06:21 PM
That car is stunning!

The Boss
02-10-2018, 12:06 PM
Love the story, and the car!

Lynn
02-10-2018, 02:17 PM
Bruce:

Any chance of reposting pics of this car? They are all photobucket pics that no longer show up.

ZL1.FUN
02-10-2018, 02:33 PM
It’s very easy. The original poster can still log into there photbuck account and screen shot photos. Then upload anywhere.

GrumpyJeff
02-10-2018, 07:16 PM
Bruce:

Any chance of reposting pics of this car? They are all photobucket pics that no longer show up.

I would love to see this car also !!!

BCreekDave
02-12-2018, 11:43 PM
Do a search on Google and hit the images tab. They have cached many of the photobucket photos

Xplantdad
02-18-2018, 04:29 PM
Bruce:

Any chance of reposting pics of this car? They are all photobucket pics that no longer show up.

Done, thanks for letting me know!

BTL
02-18-2018, 04:39 PM
With that Photobucket Fix all but 1 of the pics open

CamarosRus
02-18-2018, 08:50 PM
I have extensive pics of Jack's Orange 70 Z while he was cleaning it............

I cherish my memories spent with Jack, and the early 2000 years of the CAMARO
Natl's 2nd Gen Group that we had at CARLISLE !!!!!!!

Woj
02-19-2018, 01:17 AM
Wow. Nice car. Very desirable. Enjoy.

Phil Woj.

redone000
05-20-2018, 02:33 AM
New to site. Just read the history. Beautiful car and story.

GrumpyJeff
05-20-2018, 12:22 PM
Wow !!! is all I can say, Wow !!!

Astock
05-20-2018, 04:07 PM
Stunning color combination.
Back in 1980, I heard rumors of a 70 z with 6,000 miles. The original owner finally advertised it, and I was the first one there. Same combo: 4:10, m-22. Compared to my 66 GTO, it felt like a factory race car. The original owner bought the car to find a wife, and once he did, the car just sat for 10 years.

70-SS/RS-L78
05-20-2018, 05:32 PM
This car is gorgeous!!
Jack did such a great job of preserving the car that it is a great reference for restoring a 70 Norwood Z28..
Mark

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CamarosRus
05-20-2018, 09:30 PM
My fave SURVIVOR 70 Z28...........and One of the most striking overall 70 Z28's of all time Color, Vinyl Top, Matching Stripe & BKW/Custom Cloth Interior [Black with White Accents]

Steve Shauger
05-21-2018, 12:01 PM
Just a stunning example of a unrestored car, and to me nothing beats orange and black. I'd love to see that car again......

CamarosRus
05-21-2018, 05:07 PM
Jack's "Fan Club" needs to see him back at MCACN.... See what YOU can do to make that happen!

ScottG
12-12-2018, 08:44 PM
This car is fantastic!! Beauty car Jack ..

BCreekDave
08-19-2021, 01:30 PM
Old thread, but car is now in the Brother's Collection.
Wish they would post a high-res photo collection of their low mile cars on-line.

NorCam
08-21-2021, 05:18 PM
The brothers collection just keeps on growing with killer cars. :cool2: