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JTH74
12-07-2005, 04:27 PM
I know the first 50 Yenkos with build dates in January of 69 carried the X66 code, but did any other non-Yenko COPO's come from the factory with the X66 code or was this specific to just the first 50 Yenkos, that question has been rolling around in my head for a while and I have been watching the forums to see if that has ever been addressed but have never found anything on it, Thanks. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

camarojoe
12-07-2005, 04:53 PM
A very good question that I agree I do not recall ever discussing here. I personally do not know of any non-Yenko COPO X66 cars, and highly doubt that any other dealers were aware of the availability of the 9561 package while the cars were still being built as X66's. As stated, the X66 Yenkos were only produced with the very first batch of 50 cars ordered directly by Don Yenko. By the time anyone else figured out the 427 COPO ordering process, the cars would likely have all been built as X44s or X11s. I think this is one of those "anything is possible" scenarios, but very unlikley any X66 COPO cars were built outside of Yenko's own 50 car order.

Jeff H
12-07-2005, 04:56 PM
I thought there was a known X22 COPO that was a non Yenko car.

JTH74
12-07-2005, 05:06 PM
CamaroJoe, that is a really good and logical point, and maybe the question is silly, but the X66 code sets the first 50 Yenkos apart from the rest, not taking anything away from any Yenko camaro, they are all rare and unique, I just like the X66 trim on those cars espcially the blacked out tailpan. I thought that maybe Berger might have had some X66's since they were pretty early in the COPO game, being that they received the #3 ZL-1. Thanks. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

camarojoe
12-07-2005, 05:10 PM
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I thought there was a known X22 COPO that was a non Yenko car.

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There is, and I forgot that one...but to answer the original question, I do not know of any non-Yenko X66 cars that were COPO's. Do you?

JTH74
12-07-2005, 05:18 PM
Jeff what did the X22 package consist of?

Jeff H
12-07-2005, 05:55 PM
I thought the X22 COPO was just a chrome trim car. I don't know of any X66 cars other than the Yenko cars but it certainly seems possible. What were the earliest ZL1 cars coded as?

camaromb
12-07-2005, 06:47 PM
578203 is a 1B built X22 car I believe. It is the odd SS wheel optioned, houdstooth interior Orange Copo Camaro from Courtesy Chev. in Sebring Ohio. The car had a window sticker and the dealership did know about the Copo ordering process according to Jim Mattison. The window sticker had the Copo option code cut out in some Camaro publications but was later shown with the Copo option code. I have not heard of another X66 or X22 Copo Camaro.
Mark

camarojoe
12-07-2005, 06:51 PM
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What were the earliest ZL1 cars coded as?

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X44.

Yellow 69 z28
12-15-2005, 02:44 AM
My current Camaro is a documented X66 COPO sold and raced out of Mac's Chevrolet, Crete Nebraska. This may be the only one identified so far. There are a few threads on this board showing history back to 1969 and a last december interview with Charlie Jacobs (who drove the car for Al MacNamara) at the NHRA Division 5 Legends dinner by a member (fpcopo) (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showprofile.php?Cat=0&User=234&what=viewmessage&Me ssage=69904&box=received).

Some of the other threads;

My First Post (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=racing&Number=25039&Search page=3&Main=25039&Words=yellow69z28&topic=&Search= true#Post25039)

Thread on Charlie Jacobs (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=racing&Number=104775&Sear chpage=3&Main=104775&Words=Casey+Marks&topic=&Sear ch=true#Post104775)

Clutch Driven Turbo 400 (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=harrell&Number=71887)

This car or I should say the drivers were hard on engine blocks (and trannys) because the original block, plus a ZL1 engine, and an L88 were all destroyed in explosions during the course of its racing life. According to fpcopo one of the blocks is in a racing museum in the midwest. The clutch driven hydro 400 and the paint scheme where borrowed from Dick Harrel, but never given back!

Al MacNamara, Charlie Jacobs, Jim Hayes, Delmar Star, fpcopo, and many more have contributed countless history, recounts and paper work showing the journey this car has made since 1969. Hopefully one day I will be attending a future SCR (SCR10 or 11 and racing it) and maybe get Al Mac and Chuck Jacobs to attend.

Belair62
12-15-2005, 03:19 AM
Very cool...and you won't run into a better guy than old Frank Payne !!

resto4u
12-15-2005, 06:09 AM
Is this the copo that sold really cheap out of canada?

JTH74
12-15-2005, 09:53 PM
Very cool, hope you get that monster done soon, what is the deal with the clutch driven TH400?

bkhpah
12-16-2005, 11:38 PM
Don't forget the #3 Berger ZL/1 is an X11 style trim car...BKH

Kurt S
12-17-2005, 11:09 AM
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My current Camaro is a documented X66 COPO sold and raced out of Mac's Chevrolet, Crete Nebraska.

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Rich,
What kind of documentation were you able to find on the car?

markjohnson
12-19-2005, 01:18 AM
You know, I'm pretty sure that there was a big feature on this car in that musclecar magazine that was put out in the early 90's by Car&Parts magazine. I have it somewhere but I'm currently packed up for moving so someone else will have to try and look it up. I remember it talked about the car being found in a junkyard and there something peculiar about the door jambs indicating that it was one of the very late '69's that was produced in the first half of the '70 model year.

Unreal
12-19-2005, 06:10 AM
On late 69 carsm the driver door frame was modified to add a couple of raised horizontal lines to indicate where to put the blue GM certification sticker.

My October 69 car does not have them. but the overspray on the inside of the door is the original color of the body. Either somewhere along the line, someone replaced the door with a donor of the same color, or it was built with earlier design doors.

COPO
12-19-2005, 03:25 PM
I think the doors changed around August of 1969. Looks like your car got an early door. Did it still have the blue sticker? My Oct. 69 Camaro has the correct door and the sticker.

Unreal
12-21-2005, 12:08 PM
No sticker....the doors had already been jammed when I bought the car. The car sat in a high school auto body shop for 13 years before I got it. I keep meaning to call the shop teacher/seller and ask him if the doors had been replaced.

Stefano
12-23-2005, 05:06 AM
It would be interesting to see the documentation as I have yet to see an X66 COPO other than a Yenko. There were a couple of X66 COPOs advertised for sale out of Canada within the last few years. Both had issues.

firstgenaddict
01-31-2006, 08:59 AM
So did the X66 Yenko's have the curved neck radiator, blacked out tailpan, did they have SS embplems or were the emblems deleted with the COPO designation, and were they ordered as double copo's as well? If they had a factory tach would it have been a 7k with 6k redline?

camarojoe
01-31-2006, 09:16 AM
X66 Yenkos did indeed have a curved neck rad, black tail panel, as well as black rockers and 1/4 panel louver trim... but no SS emblems. (they were factory shipped with the base model style blue bowtie grill and tailpanel emblems, with a plain Camaro script on each fender) The X66 Yenko cars also had the complete 9737 package, but the factory tachs were not ordered in this first batch...aside from the 140 mph speedometer, they had no optional factory instrumentation, but SW tachs(and sometimes additional gauges) were added at the dealership.