View Full Version : 69 Camaro Driveshaft Marking??
Hotrodpaul
12-19-2005, 09:12 PM
Does anyone know what would be the correct paint markings for a 4-speed Muncie driveshaft in a 69 Camaro (396 L-78)?
Mine looked to have either Yellow or Orange stripes about 12 inches away from one end. Thanks,
Paul
DarrenX33
12-19-2005, 09:27 PM
69 Z/28 M22.. This is the original paint. I can measure this when I get home if you want me to...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/dagcostello/141-4114_IMG.jpg
Mr. T
12-19-2005, 09:44 PM
How were these paint markings applied originally? How would one go about reproducing these?
Jonesy
12-19-2005, 09:48 PM
While we are at it, how about a 350/300hp 4spd?
Did these stripes just designate type of trans?
DarrenX33
12-19-2005, 09:50 PM
Paint dabbed while they were balancing...
Hotrodpaul
12-20-2005, 01:37 AM
That mark is exactly what mine looked like. Looks like two seperate stripes in Orange applied with some type of brush while the shaft was turning.
Paul
Tommy_Mathison
12-20-2005, 03:53 AM
Anyone think they might know if those stripes would be the same from a 69 Z28 w/ M20? Thanks everyone
Tommy M
MosportGreen66
12-20-2005, 07:33 PM
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Anyone think they might know if those stripes would be the same from a 69 Z28 w/ M20? Thanks everyone
Tommy M
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I would assume it a universal marking... transmission and engine displacement aside. The marking was originally for inspectors, regardless of engine size/tranny option.
DarrenX33
12-20-2005, 07:49 PM
Dan is your Z still marked? Crawl under there. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
This is a good question for JohnZ...
SS427
12-20-2005, 08:06 PM
Mosport,
I may be speaking out of turn here as I am refering more to Chevelles but the stripes are not meant for inspectors, they are there for an easy eye reference to line workers to pull the correct shaft from the bins based on the color codes listed on the build sheet. The M-20/21 use a different tail shaft than a Turbo 400 and/or an M-22 and therefor use a different driveshaft flange. The colors are different on the shafts depending on transmission. Also in the case of Chevelles, the engine size may also make a difference since a 454 uses a different shaft than a 396 car. Just trying to clear up a possible misunderstanding.
Rick
DarrenX33
12-20-2005, 08:12 PM
What took you so long Nelson? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Great info. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
SS427
12-20-2005, 08:34 PM
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What took you so long Nelson? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
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Hey! You're the one with the Camaro and that was the specific question. I figured since you were stumped I would chime in............. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
DarrenX33
12-20-2005, 08:38 PM
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I figured since you were stumped I would chime in.............
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Your right... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Kurt S
12-21-2005, 12:54 AM
There were three driveshafts in 69 Camaros:
manual (SB&BB) & PG
TH350
TH400
That's it. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
nuch_ss396
12-21-2005, 01:31 AM
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There were three driveshafts in 69 Camaros:
manual (SB&BB) & PG
TH350
TH400
That's it. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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OK Kurt. So what are the three stripe combinations?
Steve
Kurt S
12-21-2005, 09:25 AM
I have some of them noted, but haven't tried to reconcile the data. Some stripes rust off first, so the data isn't always consistent... Low on my project list. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Unreal
12-21-2005, 12:29 PM
What's the difference between a TH350 and a manual tranny drive shaft?
My car was originally a TH350, and I converted to an M21, but used the original driveshaft. I haven't had any mechanical problems, but is one brewing?
SS427
12-21-2005, 04:24 PM
If I am correct, the Turbo 350 shares output shaft splines with the M-20 and M-21. The Turbo 400 shares the splines with the M-22. That is the only difference I am aware of.
Rick
Mark_C
12-21-2005, 08:14 PM
The difference is in the lengths of the shaft, and possibly the position of the yokes on each end in relation to each other. I'm pretty sure the TH400 shaft is shorter than the others, the muncie/PG ones are a little longer, and the TH350 is the longest.
Kurt S
12-22-2005, 12:26 AM
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The Turbo 400 shares the splines with the M-22. Rick
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That's not true in 69. Only 1970 M22's had that output shaft, all 71+ Muncies had it.
SS427
12-22-2005, 02:42 AM
Kurt,
You are correct and sorry for misleading anyone. Sometimes when I eat, drink and sleep 70 Chevelles I get tunnel vision. Thanks for clarifying. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/stupid.gif
Rick
MosportGreen66
12-22-2005, 03:03 AM
Boy I was just put in my place. I wonder where I got that from? I guess that was a figment of my imagination or someone told me the wrong information. Sorry about that guys.
Learn something new everyday.
The Z28 had a faded orange stripe like yours Darren. I should have a picture around here somewhere... (???)
DarrenX33
12-22-2005, 03:27 AM
Cool. Find it. FYI mine is yellow and orange... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif
camaromb
12-22-2005, 04:01 AM
Darren,
The stripes on my LA built M21 Z are white/orange.
Mark
RamAirDave
12-22-2005, 10:19 AM
69Z, M20 that Im restoring now had orange and white stripes near the front, next to each other, and a single orange further down, near the middle. Also had white, blue, and yellow dabs on the yokes/ujoints.
Have the measurements of them, but not handy right now.
dave
Kurt S
12-25-2005, 07:42 AM
This is the problem I've seen.
Three cars, all Z's, all should have the same colors. Did the white fade to yellow or vice versa? I think there's normally 3 stripes, but maybe there are only 2 for this part. Is Dave's car's 3rd stripe for something else or are the other 2 cars 3rd stripe just faded or rusted away. Or was there a coding change midyear (I doubt that). Just hard to be sure.
I have not seen a definitive answer, hopefully somebody else has!
WILMASBOYL78
12-27-2005, 12:45 AM
Here is photo of stripes on Karen's 69 SS350 w/M20.
wilma
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