Any thoughts on the B-J auction...?

[musclecarjohn]

Seemed to be some great buys and some near record breakers.
I saw the Yellow '70 Boss go for $70K (record?)and a Citrus Green straight bumper '71 Z go for $32.5K

The tent looks huge compared to last year.I'll be there on thursday and hope to visit with lots of members.

John

[MosportGreen66]

I think that resto-mod Tri-Five Chevy (Green/White car) was a magnificent price for the car @ $70,000. The '71 Z28 (Citrus Green/Green) did not get any TV time so I did not see much of the car. I would have liked to see that Fathom Green/Light Green '69 Chevelle SS cross the block but the TV casting ran out of time...

Those Clone cars aka Hemi GTX Clone continues to blow my mind. Those odd speciality vehicles aka Corvair Truck, Fiat Cabroliet, Willys SunRay, and the VW open top bus are interesting. Boy... the money those brought.

Call me NUTS, I think the nicest car to cross the block was that mid-60's VW Beetle @ 46 hp http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif.
The buy of the night was that 1991 ZR1 Vette with 16,000 miles at $26,000.

[jeff morocco]

if that hemi gtx clone pulled that kind of money, imagine what the real cars are gonna bring

[Xplantdad]

I will be posting pictures...soon...under the other events area! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Tommy_Mathison]

Black 69 Z28, wrong color, incorrect stripes, went for $73K... Thats crazy.

Tommy M.

[Pacecarjeff]

Already a lot of junk going through for big money.
The buyers don't look that stupid.
I guess looks are deceiving. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

It's fantasy-land out there. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[GTO_DON]

[ QUOTE ]
if that hemi gtx clone pulled that kind of money, imagine what the real cars are gonna bring

[/ QUOTE ]THE ONLY PROBLEM IS ITS ONLT WORTH HALF THAT AFTER ITS LEAVES SCOTTSDALE. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif WHERE I COME FROM THAT WILL BUY YOU THE REAL DEAL. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Denis]

[ QUOTE ]
Black 69 Z28, wrong color, incorrect stripes, went for $73K... Thats crazy.

Tommy M.

[/ QUOTE ]

I bought the Hugger Orange L78 that came across just before the black Z28. Canadian docs, original drivetrain, runs like a top. I'm happy.

[Xplantdad]

Hey Denis...Too bad I didn't get a "I crush you" picture of you bidding on it...Really nice car.

Say hi tomorrow! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/youguysrock.gif

I was sitting right next to the guy that was bidding against you... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[txracer70]

im blown away the clone hemi brought more then the real deal,seems like the custom cars are gonna bring big bucks this year.

[GaryH]

Are any of you guys having problems with the picture quality? All I can see are reflections of all those spot lights on the cars and it creates light "stars" on the TV screen from the camera lens. Very annoying. I can't appreciate the chrome or paint. It looks horrible.

[mrtimstik]

Pure Hollywood smoke and mirrors. Alcohol induced bidding frenzy creates artificially high sale prices. I have been to this caliber auction locally and chose not to participate due to the overprivledged macho factor that sometimes blankets the scene. Love the cars tho, I watch on mute. Not my scene at all.

[PPPJJJFFF]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Black 69 Z28, wrong color, incorrect stripes, went for $73K... Thats crazy.

Tommy M.

[/ QUOTE ]

I bought the Hugger Orange L78 that came across just before the black Z28. Canadian docs, original drivetrain, runs like a top. I'm happy.

[/ QUOTE ]

Cool Dennis,

I thought that car might bring more $$$. Nice buy!

Patrick

[Steve Shauger]

Quote:
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Black 69 Z28, wrong color, incorrect stripes, went for $73K... Thats crazy.

Tommy M.


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That car sold new on Long Island at Blair Chevy on 1/16/69. I last saw the car in 1998. The car was already painted black and was driver quality car at that time with a lot of reproduction parts used. Can't wait to see what the really nice cars bring.

[Steve Shauger]

Quote:
Pure Hollywood smoke and mirrors. Alcohol induced bidding frenzy creates artificially high sale prices. I have been to this caliber auction locally and chose not to participate due to the overprivledged macho factor that sometimes blankets the scene. Love the cars tho, I watch on mute. Not my scene at all.


Why watch it if you truly feel that way. To me it is an exciting event that has something for everyone. It also is a good barometer for what the market will bring this year.

[Jeff H]

Do they have any live links or links to the results? I missed it last night.

[supermuscle]

Anyone there get a chance to look at thet 71 Citrus car ? Little to no TV time and was curious what condition it was in. Thanks..
Perry

[mrtimstik]

Steve,
You have a PM.
Tom

[sYc]

Friends of Motion:
I just wanted to give you a heads-up that Joel Rosen and I will be with the
prototype (#01) Baldwin-Motion 540 Camaro SuperCoupe in the tented Feature Car
area of the auction on Saturday, January 21. The car goes off that evening at
prime time live on SPEED Channel.
If you plan on being there, please stop by and visit. We'd love to see you.
Regards,
Marty

Martyn L. Schorr

[musclecarjohn]

[ QUOTE ]
Anyone there get a chance to look at thet 71 Citrus car ? Little to no TV time and was curious what condition it was in. Thanks..
Perry

[/ QUOTE ]

No Tivo?

Car was very clean,looked good on stage.Had newer,incorrect center caps,otherwise flawless...from what I could see.

The stage lights are casting strange "stars" on the cars,especially the bed of that '59 El Camino...hard to watch.

See everyone there http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Les Quam]

A 70 red shaker hood Boss 302 sold for about 91K last year at BJ. Current world record for a Boss 302 is 130K for a 1969. However an owner was offered 200K in a private transaction for what is considered the best 70 in the world last week and turned it down.

In know all the parties in the two private transactions and my information is 100% reliable for the skeptics in the crowd.

[supermuscle]

Thanks buddy, unfortuneatly no Tivo...
Perry

[Z-11 396]

[ Those odd speciality vehicles aka''<<< Corvair Truck,>>> Fiat Cabroliet, Willys SunRay, and the VW open top bus are interesting. Boy... the money those brought.

I WAS SURE GLAD TO SEE http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif THOSE PRICES, THAT GIVES ME HOPE SHOULD I TRY TO SALE MY CORVAIR....KASEY ..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[Glenn J Coleman]

I'm glad someone from here got that car. I was wondering why they did not mention the L78 option. I thought it was the buy of the night. Anyway...congrats!!

[musclecarjohn]

[ QUOTE ]
A 70 red shaker hood Boss 302 sold for about 91K last year at BJ. Current world record for a Boss 302 is 130K for a 1969. However an owner was offered 200K in a private transaction for what is considered the best 70 in the world last week and turned it down.

In know all the parties in the two private transactions and my information is 100% reliable for the skeptics in the crowd.

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks for the info.It's about time these cars started to bring '69 Z money...

[musclecar fan]

Anyone see a 71 Boss 351 go through and know what it bid to? Thanks

[CamarosRus]

Did anyone LOOK at 71 LimeGreen Z eng deck (VIN #) and/or Trim Tag, etc etc.......Some dealers are alledged of selling clones into this market.....

[nuch_ss396]

[ QUOTE ]


Why watch it if you truly feel that way. To me it is an exciting event that has something for everyone. It also is a good barometer for what the market will bring this year.

[/ QUOTE ]

Because it is like watching a train wreck. You know it is
going to be bad, but you just have to watch..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

Steve

[SSJunkie68-69]

That was a good buy. I though the same thing too. Congrats on getting a nice car.

Does it have a POP? I saw on the BJ add it says it has docs but does not go into a lot of detail.

Was that car on here a few months back with SamLBinj(I think it was) who snapped it up very quickly and then found a "new home" for it almost as quickly?

[TXZS]

Anyone wonder why the '68 Z on Wednesday brought less than the color-change '69 Z on Tuesday?

[Les Quam]

The owner of the lime gold or green Boss 351 also owns the black and silver one crossing the block today. It's my understanding that both are legit. Bob Perkins recently bought two other Boss 351s from this owner and looked at both the cars going to BJ and thought they were legit.

[supermuscle]

Chuck,

I had asked yesterday about anyone that saw the 71 Lime car and someone mentioned it was close to flawless... I took a look at the BJ site and that car specifically.. I'm sure you probably noticed.. Many things wrong in Engine Compartment, wrong exhaust, wheels AND check out back bumber... changed bumper or not a Z to begin with ? No bumper-ettes... Flawless is a reletive term I guess.
Perry

[machinist]

Anyone into Amphicars. I could not believe what that thing brought last night. I know where there used to be 2 of them sitting. I am going to go see if they are still there. I also thought last night(Wednesday) was not as good as Tuesday night.
rock

[copo69]

As i watch BJ I can't help but feel "We're not in Kansas anymore...."

[Draginwagon]

Hey, $56,000 for the 66 427 Caprice.
Way to go. The Buyer got a Bargain.
That was an absolutely beautiful car.
Congrats to the seller. In my humble opinion, it should have sold for even More !

[Draginwagon]

By the way, having been involved in Auctions like B-J, and have people there for me, no time for me to travel there, see my website at http://www.kuhnsklassics.com
The prices paid there are usually a Bit high.(that's an understatement) It is truely a Blip in the market, and althought the sales there help the value of cars like the 66 Caprice, it is not reality. A Note for all viewers of the auction, When you consign your car to be sold No Reserve there, you can Bid on it and "Buy it Back" if you like. In that instance you pay the Buyers and sellers fees but you keep the car. This is done when the seller sees his car not hitting the value he wants to get for it. That's why you might see a car Sold on the block and then later that day For Sale elsewhere in the lot outside. Anyway, Enjoy the show. It is somewhat fun to watch.

[tom406]

Hoo boy, $125K for the red 360HP SS396 Chevelle out of Minnesota. I had a feeling it was going to do well. My buddy at BJ looked at the guy's low mile '69 Z and says that its all that as well. Seller did very well. If rumours are correct, the Chevelle sale about paid for his buy-in, and the Z sale will be pure gravy.......

[DZ Fool]

$ 205000 No direspect to all you big block guys but I am thrilled to own my Z and see this car bring this kind of money. I am sure a yenko or copo with 11000 miles would walk away with a lot more but Today is a good day for owning a 69 Z .

I am not always a fan of what B-J does to the hobbist trying to own original muscle cars and such . here is the link http://www.barrett-jackson.com/events/scottsdale/vehicles/cardetail_list.asp?id=181365

[Xplantdad]

[ QUOTE ]
Hoo boy, $125K for the red 360HP SS396 Chevelle out of Minnesota. I had a feeling it was going to do well. My buddy at BJ looked at the guy's low mile '69 Z and says that its all that as well. Seller did very well. If rumours are correct, the Chevelle sale about paid for his buy-in, and the Z sale will be pure gravy.......

[/ QUOTE ]

That Chevelle is going to Texas...

[Salvatore]

Dan, Do you really think that low mile 69 Z is worth that money? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif Must be something in the water out there.

[supercomp 8.90]

did you guys notice that the phone bidder on that z was the same maniac that bought the f-88 concept car last year??? he was bidding from his jet!!!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[KLONECO]

IT IS ALL "MADNESS"

[KLONECO]

no wonder all the youth these days own "jap junk " totally ruining this hobby do any of those bidders "own a tool box" http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif
I DOUBT IT!!!

[Xplantdad]

I think a "few" of those bidders own a tool box...in fact one of those bidders is a member of this site...and does excellent work. His car will be coming up in Members Rides soon... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[CamarosRus]

Checking in from the MESA,AZ Holiday Inn (Damm Nice Hotwire room for $44 per) Spent good part of Thursday at B/J. I didnt see anybody from Yenko that I recognized except Denis G.......and nobody who saw me wanted to acknowledge that, but what the hey, been there, done that.
Seattle acquaintenance had bidders creditials and my group of four walked into and sat in rear of bidders area.
Friday we went to Russo and Steele. Just my opinion, but enjoyed the overall Muscle Car scene at R/S better.
Anyway gotta get off this puter, but really enjoying the great weather, Harley shops, Auction cars, WOMEN, and Pavillions Cruise tomorrow.....
Bye all, Chuck

[Xplantdad]

Where were you, Chuck? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[KLONECO]

I am just generalizing not trying to be a a "SSSHHTICK" but some do not get the real "hobby" part? what about the middle class ????? if you do not agree that is fine......although these prices are quite "blown out of proportion!" maybe you do not agree! thats good / thats bad! whats next?..................rat rods?

[Xplantdad]

I realized that you are generalizing...I can agree that some will never have the inclination or ability to work on their cars...but they've been successful in life...why not let them enjoy it?

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Xplantdad]

[ QUOTE ]
Where were you, Chuck? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[/ QUOTE ]


By the way...Where's Bill Pritchard? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[KLONECO]

I can only imagine.......just like the lottery!................................but to spend high dollar on cars that can be built & enjoyed ..... way too many "originals" are surfacing!!!.......( 10,000 milers !!!...."ALL OF A SUDDEN! no 1 person anticipated the boom, the growth, the desire, or the investment!!!!!!! so these less than 200 mile a year cars are so far fetched it is sickening!especially in "immaculant" condition! all I am trying to be is a bit .... realistic! I know a few are there for sure seen some .know of a few ..... but even the "never been touched " cars DO NOT HAVE CHROME THAN BLINDS YOU! regardless off studio lighting http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif again I am not trying to be offensive...but come on now lets be a bit "real" everyone on this site seems to enjoy cars..in some way lets keep it in check!!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

[Belair62]

Hobby is different for people...some like to do them...some like them done...by the time you do them you wind up with a crapload of money in them anyway. Better off buying a good car done. Some of those Caddy converts were awsum and they were being stolen..

[Charley Lillard]

I looked at the low mile Z28 and believe it to be correct. There were a few little things like a heat shield under the carb but that was a very cool car. I know both bidders. The bidder that lost bought the gold L78 Camaro convert last year and the green low mile 68 L78 Camarto the year before. There are only a few untouched cars out there and they will bring a premium. The guy that bought the Z28 also bought the blue ZL1 at the Mecum auction for 800K. He knows exactly what he is doing.

[Jacsey 70Z]

Thought I saw KENNY PASCOE standing next to the guy bidding on the Greem 11K mile Z. KENNY always hangs around them low mile survivor cars!!

[Xplantdad]

Yep...that was Kenny http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Z-11 396]

[ QUOTE ]
Yep...that was Kenny http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[/ QUOTE ]WELL <<< BRUCE >>>, WE ARE WAITING FOR YOU TO ADD TO YOUR /// COLLECTION/// WE WANT TO SEE YOU UP ON STAGE GOING FOR THE *** BIG BUCK CARS ****I QUESS TODAY IS YOUR DAY, WE'LL BE WATCHING.....KASEY .. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[Keith Tedford]

All the sparkles you see from the cars on TV can be done with a special piece that goes on over your camera lens. It is like a fine wire screen. They are using all the tricks that they can think of.....like the guy waving the checkered flag all the time. I'm impressed. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[enio45]

Charlie, what did that low mile Z finally go for??

[COPO]

The 11K mile 69 Z went for an eye popping $205K plus fees.

[nuch_ss396]

Can anyone here explain this $205,000 + price to me?
Last years $113,000 for the yellow Z was out of this world.
What can you even say about $205,000 ! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Does anyone else think that the light bulb is burning its
brightest now because it will burn out soon?

Steve

[GaryH]

[ QUOTE ]
All the sparkles you see from the cars on TV can be done with a special piece that goes on over your camera lens. It is like a fine wire screen. They are using all the tricks that they can think of.....like the guy waving the checkered flag all the time. I'm impressed. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

So they are doing that on purpose? You've got to be kidding me http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif See the attachment to see how bad it is on a big screen

[Glenn J Coleman]

[ QUOTE ]
I can only imagine.......just like the lottery!................................but to spend high dollar on cars that can be built & enjoyed ..... way too many "originals" are surfacing!!!.......( 10,000 milers !!!...."ALL OF A SUDDEN! no 1 person anticipated the boom, the growth, the desire, or the investment!!!!!!! so these less than 200 mile a year cars are so far fetched it is sickening!especially in "immaculant" condition! all I am trying to be is a bit .... realistic! I know a few are there for sure seen some .know of a few ..... but even the "never been touched " cars DO NOT HAVE CHROME THAN BLINDS YOU! regardless off studio lighting http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif again I am not trying to be offensive...but come on now lets be a bit "real" everyone on this site seems to enjoy cars..in some way lets keep it in check!!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

[/ QUOTE ]


I saw you guys on TV. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Have fun, and bring me back a big block pacer!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

Anyone seen Matt Murphy??

[TimG]

I think there's still room for hobbyist out there, you just have to pick and choose your car carefully. If you want an 11,000 mile Z28, you'll have to pay dearly for it, but if you want a nice '70 Z28, you can have one for a fraction of that price. A very nice one sold locally for $40,000 recently. There are deals if you look for them and are open to a variety of cars. If you're willing to take a marginal car up to nice standards, you can find a buy, also. There are lots of guys on this forum that have cars worth hundreds of thousands of dollars that are not opposed to buying a $20,000 car and having fun with it and making it a better car.
Heck, I bought a '72 442 on ebay not too long ago for under $10,000 and had a blast with it all summer. My wife drove it, it was the first car my youngest son ever drove, my other son would "sneak" it out for joy drives when I was working. I parked it right along side of cars worth 10 times what it was worth.
Charley, saw you "prodding" two bidders last night.

[Stefano]

Matt was on the stage last evening.

[427rcode]

IF YOU CAN CHECK OUT THE KILLER YENKO NOVA CLONE AT THE RUSSO AND STEELE AUCTION
ENJOY THE WEATHER AND THE SHOW

[njsteve]

[ QUOTE ]
IF YOU CAN CHECK OUT THE KILLER YENKO NOVA CLONE AT THE RUSSO AND STEELE AUCTION
ENJOY THE WEATHER AND THE SHOW

[/ QUOTE ]

You mean YOUR car, the one YOU are trying to sell???? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif Gee we can't this a mile away since you have posted the same info on just about every topic on this site.

[GaryH]

By the way, did you guys notice that most of the bidders assistance people are waving around Pittsburgh Steeler Terrible Towels! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[sssteve]

Question:years ago I remember reading a magazine with an alleaged COPO chevelle.It had the "malibu" eyebrow moldings and rocker moldings with Le Mans blue paint and silver rockers.I heard that on Fridays auction there was a 69 COPO chevelle(yellow) with these same moldings.Is that correct?Could these cars be ordered that way?Steve

[Keith Tedford]

When our cars were ordered, the dealer wasn't exactly sure what was coming. We weren't even sure which 427 the cars would be coming with. By the COPO option price, we knew that it wasn't an L88 or ZL1. As for what body trim the car would have, we just didn't know until the cars arrived. I would think that the Malibu trim was just a factory office scheduling snafu. The trim package would have been scheduled prior to the start of manufacture so that the people in the body shop would drill all the holes and add all the trim studs. They would have no idea as to what drivetrain would be going into the car. I wonder if these Malibu trimmed cars were early COPO production? The VIN isn't shown on the B-J 1013.1 listing.

[Fhakya]

The situation w/ the 205K Z is a unique one...hence the premium.

-Never titled to a private individual (always dealer owned)
-Obviously the low miles (a mildly maintained time capsule)

That car caught my eye in late 1990 when I worked at the Champion auto about a block from Midway Chev. in St. Paul.

They had it on display in the showroom and I slammed on my brakes and pulled in to check it out. I was about 18 at the time and was just amazed to see one in that nice of condition.

205K+ is an insane amount of money to me but the demand was there for a car w/ such a unique situation. Remember, it shared the same underground garage along w/ the 66 SS396 Chevelle that commanded a 125K price tag.

Congrats on the acquisition Dan.
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Verne_Frantz]

Keith,
Fisher Body never drilled holes in body panels to add trim or fasteners, at least not to my knowledge. Those body panels were pre-"punched" before they were put in the jig to be welded or bolted together, according to the build order for that body.
I know bodies were "banked" at Fisher, then pulled out of inventory (granted, inventory might only last a day or two) when they were scheduled for a final production unit.
I hope JohnZ is looking at this thread, because he KNOWS how it was scheduled. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I'm only an amateur historian..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

[bashton]

WOW...310k for the 69 L88 Corvette Cpe; another record smashing price!

[g503]

ray allen 1 millin 150 thousand, i guess the restoration didnt hurt, it has the history that carried it


what car!!

[g503]

baldwin motion prototype,69 camaro wonder if they will go to limited production

[jfkheat]

[ QUOTE ]
baldwin motion prototype,69 camaro wonder if they will go to limited production

[/ QUOTE ]

They are planning to build a few. The price listed on the Motion website is $427,000 each.
James

The prototype just sold for $450,000

[Speedrx]

That Pontiac Bonneville Concept was kind of a letdown compared to last year. It was bidding like it was a $100K car not a $3M car - where was Ferrari Man?? Did he buy the car? He is hiding out behind the scenes this year like a recluse. It also looks like someone broke his arm before the auction so mayby that is why he is laying low.

[LemansblueCOPO]

The best buy of the auction was the rebel machine which sold for $16,000. I'm pissed as hell that we didn't bid on the car. We were going to do it over the phone but decided not to.

[LemansblueCOPO]

Here it is http://www.barrett-jackson.com/events/scottsdale/vehicles/cardetail_list.asp?id=182045

[bashton]

I had the oppurtunity to spend a full day with Joe Bortz a few months ago. He has so many cool old Concept/Dream cars spread out around the Chicago area that I literally lost count. Some are in little garages, some are in warehouses and a few are at a garage that does work for him along with a pair that he keeps in his garage at home.

It was an amazing day that I will never forget,

BTW; the Bonneville was one of the first cars he showed me and it sat a few cars away from the Chrysler D'Elegance and about a dozen others. Unbelieveable!

[Tenney]

Great. Now everybody's gonna think their Futureliner's worth a ton 'o $.

[COPO]

$450K for a ZL-1?? That seems to be the steal of the auction unless there is an issue with the car. I thought another one sold recently for almost twice that amount. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

[rpoz11]

I was shocked! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[Speedrx]

yea, same guy bought the 70 LS6 ragtop and the ZL1 Camaro for less than the price of the race LS6 ragtop.

Who got the better deal?

[COPO]

Same guy got a steal on the last L-88 vette built. That guy got 3 awesome buys IMO.

[rpoz11]

Was he a Texas boy? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[71-LS6]

[ QUOTE ]
$450K for a ZL-1?? That seems to be the steal of the auction unless there is an issue with the car. I thought another one sold recently for almost twice that amount. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

[/ QUOTE ]
Yeah, I was wondering what the deal on that was too, especially after they said it was an ex DH race car.

[MosportGreen66]

[ QUOTE ]
Same guy got a steal on the last L-88 vette built. That guy got 3 awesome buys IMO.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think the exact same... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif
Unless the sellers buy them back?

[COPO]

I think the Bobby Alison hemi wing car was a real steal at $300K. Seems like the big dogs called it an early night. Some real bargains within the last 30 minutes.

[Xplantdad]

I'm thinking some of the big dogs went to Pavillions/Russo for some "shopping". I had eight different offers on my car..."sorry, not for sale sir" http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[Late BrakeU2]

I thought that Pontiac Banshee was the steal of the auction at 195k..considering the other concept cars were in the millions.Quite a few items on that car made it into production vehicles several years after.

Other random thoughts-

Green seems to be quite an acceptable color all of a sudden.

LS6 Rag fetches more than a ZL1.

Ray Allen car woke the place up-hands down the fave with the announcers and crowd(pre futureliner)

Ford drag cars soft.

[Enoch]

I saw the #9 Z-L1 at the Rand Workman auction in NY this past September And it was a tired car needing attention. But still at 450 you could do a full frame off and still be sitting pretty in that one. They also said Dick Harrell owned it.

[Keith Tedford]

I have '69 Malibu doors here and they certainly appear to be drilled at the front and rear edges to retain the lower Malibu trim. In Oshawa, bodies were not "banked". They were scheduled and mated up with the scheduled chassis in general assembly. The fenders and rear panels were pierced originally. Perhaps these are not original Malibu doors. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Charley Lillard]

On the info page they disclosed that the # 9 ZL1 was a rebody. That probably had a effect on price. The bidding frenzy seemed to peak at the futurliner and then fizzled.

[427rcode]

sorry njsteve wrong guess i was trying to be a nice guy and tell everyone to see it if they were here but you outsmarted yourself.lol.the car is very nice and buy the way i bought it friday nite.you should be a little layed back and have some fun

70 HEMI CHALLANGER,69 L78 NOVA,69 MACH I,69 SC/RAMBLER,2000 COBRA R,66 NOVA L79,66 GTA FAIRLANE,66 427 R CODE LIGHTWEIGHT,70 HEMI CHARGER,66 427 FAIRLANE,

[71-LS6]

[ QUOTE ]
On the info page they disclosed that the # 9 ZL1 was a rebody. That probably had a effect on price. The bidding frenzy seemed to peak at the futurliner and then fizzled.

[/ QUOTE ]
No rhyme or reason to auctions sometimes, especially after seeing the auction halted momentarily for that black 71' hemi cuda. A last minute disclosure of a re-body there, and it still hit 650K I think. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[njsteve]

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sorry njsteve wrong guess i was trying to be a nice guy and tell everyone to see it if they were here but you outsmarted yourself.lol.the car is very nice and buy the way i bought it friday nite.you should be a little layed back and have some fun

70 HEMI CHALLANGER,69 L78 NOVA,69 MACH I,69 SC/RAMBLER,2000 COBRA R,66 NOVA L79,66 GTA FAIRLANE,66 427 R CODE LIGHTWEIGHT,70 HEMI CHARGER,66 427 FAIRLANE,

[/ QUOTE ]

No problem. Just my normal paranoia.
But wait, you really do own it now so I was I guess that proves that I was able to see into the future.
Damn...If I could only see the lottery numbers in advance I could really do some good. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[JTH74]

I was expecting to see the 70 Hemi Cuda Convert that Charley drove up on the block bring 2.5-3.0, boy was I wrong. The 71 Hemi Cudas are still the heavy hitters there. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[njsteve]

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[ QUOTE ]
On the info page they disclosed that the # 9 ZL1 was a rebody. That probably had a effect on price. The bidding frenzy seemed to peak at the futurliner and then fizzled.

[/ QUOTE ]
No rhyme or reason to auctions sometimes, especially after seeing the auction halted momentarily for that black 71' hemi cuda. A last minute disclosure of a re-body there, and it still hit 650K I think. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

I loved when the announcer was trying to explain his legal theory that in some states if you can prove the body is gone you can rebody it. WHAT???? I felt like emailing him that he was so beyond wrong on that one. It is a felony to do it, period. I think there is going to be some legal issues following that cuda very soon. Ouch!

[Speedrx]

[ QUOTE ]
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baldwin motion prototype,69 camaro wonder if they will go to limited production

[/ QUOTE ]

They are planning to build a few. The price listed on the Motion website is $427,000 each.
James

The prototype just sold for $450,000

[/ QUOTE ]

There was something stange about the bidding for the BM Camaro. It seemed to stall at $300K and then they worked real hard to get it moving, finally ending at $450K. I was wondering if Motion bought the car back at $450K to show they are worth his kind of money since they are listing them for $427K.

It would be impossible to sell any at $427K back here on earth if they couldn't get anymore than that at BJ.

[427TJ]

I thought it was a little embarassing how slowly the B-M Camaro was bid. That long pause in the middle and that one bidder shaking his head 'no' on camera at making another bid just made its time on the block seem awkward to me.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[JoeG]

There were several cars that the auctioner took a breather on to regroup and nudge the bidders -------------Look at the new shelby------it stalled at 300k the bidding took a breather and it climbed steadily to 600k---The concept chrysler car stalled nervously at 800k--they regrouped and they managed to get it to 1.1mil.-----------Sometimes the bidding goes so fast some bidders just need that extra time to see if they can affort it or in the big dogs case if they really want it----------I REALLY don't think Motion bought it back.......That's a nice climb from 300k to 450k......My hat goes off to the Motion team for pulling this first effort off....

[427TJ]

Yeah Joe, I was impressed at how the auctioneers used pauses to get the crowd and bidders back into it but I would have liked to see the Motion car get a couple hundred K more.

[Chris396]

I think they were very disappointed with the Motion car. I would think they imagined it would bring at least around 600 or more.

[JoeG]

I would have liked to see it go to 500k --you know a little cushion---And an extra 100k or 200k would have made the team do backflips,--after a tense minute or two they did make their target and that was the mission.....

[Mr70]

Agree..we are humanbeings after all,so it is not a perfect process.
There was a situation Friday where a car was gaveled SOLD and drove away..There was a distant bidder in the seats screaming at the gavel he was willing to bid more then the winning bid,with an auction Capt. next to him doing the same.
But to no avail,as the gavel did not hear them and announced the bidding was ultimately closed.
But what also happened was two seperate other people both thought they were the winning bid on that car,smiling & shaking hands with thier respective friends..So the podium announced they would reopen the bidding again to settle this between the two who thought they both won it at the exact same price.Once they reopened it,the distant bidder who was willing to bid more ended up out bidding both of them and became the winner.It can be confusing sometimes.

[hvychev]

I was suprised to see that Motion Camaro do $450K. I also thought is was VERY unfair that they spent so much time on that car when others were quick sold.

All I can say is that I have never heard of a REAL BM car do $450K so how in the heck do they expect to have a line of people waiting to drop $450K on that thing? Like the announcers said, that car does not have much in common with the BM cars from the glory days other than in name.

[Jacsey 70Z]

I was laughing, you could hear the panic in Chip Foose's voice when he was saying how this wasn't a Over Haulin car, it wasn't built in a week!!

[Hylton]

Any thoughts?

Ya - it's all Bullshit!

[Jeff H]

The common theme seems to be people will pay extra money for a name or a statistic with a vehicle. I don't know what to really think other than this situation only happens once a year so don't think these prices will occur again until next Jan.

[JoeG]

I saw a couple of guys with a winning bid and the auctioners arm is locked on the 3rd and final call sometimes a little longer than called for, which cost some fellas a car ........
What I didn't know was that FORD is offering turn race cars from the factory----just like back in the day http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[MosportGreen66]

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I was laughing, you could hear the panic in Chip Foose's voice when he was saying how this wasn't a Over Haulin car, it wasn't built in a week!!

[/ QUOTE ]

I thought the same thing Jack...
"its not an overhaulin car... It wasn't built in a week."
Great way to boost ratings... haha!

[JoeG]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif That was a funny line, but it did sound like panic---Tough selling at no reserve--

[SuperNovaSS]

Was the 66 360HP Chevelle an original or restored car? Does anyone know the lot #?

Thanks,

Jason

[Xplantdad]

Are you referring to the unrestored low mileage RED one?

[af1fe]

The only thoughts I have is why would you spend 205K plus BJ fees for a car you haven't even inspected in person? I would expect a car that has 11K original miles not to have a Walker exhaust system, black NAPA shocks, replacement master cylinder, water pump, incorrect tires, glass windshield wiper bottle and the heat shield between the carb and manifold. Did anyone notice the big hood pin holes in the core support? For 11K miles there was also a lot of wear on the pedals. Just my thoughts.

[KENNY_PASCOE]

THE 66 SS WAS AN UNRESTORED CAR. I WAS BIDDING ON IT UNTIL THE PRICE WENT INTO ORBIT. FEW THINGS UNDER HOOD THAT WERE CHANGED BUT ALL IN ALL AN EXCELLENT CAR. THE WHITE INTERIOR WAS AWESOME... KP

[JoeG]

REEALLLL NICE!!!!--

[Speedrx]

[ QUOTE ]

What I didn't know was that FORD is offering turn race cars from the factory----just like back in the day http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[/ QUOTE ]
Those factory race Mustangs are http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif and very competitive right out of the box. Just order one directly from the Ford Racing Catalog for $120K or pick one up from BJ for only $80K more?? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[musclecarjohn]

Hey guys...back to homebase.
Well,B-J was a scene...and it was great to meet Bruce (Xplantdad),Tony (Mr T),George Lyons and Kenny Pascoe...all really great people and fun to be with.I'm sorry I couldn't spend more time with you guys but my friends had me running in several directions.

Bruce really needs a hand for all his hard work every year and for all he does for SYC...my hats off to him! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

And Bruce...you were right about Pavillions...it was nuts!
There was No way we were going to check out all the cars,and there was some great ones.

For some strange reason...I could not post from AZ...said my password wasn't valid. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

My thoughts:

Joel Rosen and the boys will sure have a tough time selling nine cars (They told me #1,2 & 12 are already sold)for asking price when they couldn't squeeze the mil or so they were expecting for this one.I was also told by BM that this car was optioned to sell for $489K so they didn't even bring that.
Not sure if anybody noticed but the upper rad hose on the car was that fake braided "look" hose with the fake end covers hiding the hose clamps...certainly not in keeping with a car of this caliber. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

We saw the V-10 Viper-powered "six-shooter" '70 Cuda convertible SELL AGAIN (?) today at 3:30.It sold "today" for $130K...I thought I saw it go last night (lot #1278)for $160K...anyone know? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

As someone mentioned:Green does seem to have returned in vogue as a favored color.

Anything with a Hemi goes through the roof.Recreation,clone,or the real thing...doesn't matter.
Have not figured out why rare LS-6 verts and ZL-1 Camaro's haven't brought similar money.

I spoke to a lot of nervous sellers in the staging lanes.A lot of cars weren't bringing the money and there were some good buys late.

I was surprised the Banshee didn't bring more than $195K.

Musclecars rule...and that trend will just continue at B-J next year.A lot of the vendors I spoke to said sales of Ferrari stuff was none exsistant.

The whole experience was just great and it's something you've got to do at least once in a lifetime.Think Pebble Beach...kicked up a notch...and you have Barrett-Jackson.

It was great being on stage with Kenny and George.My wife called me crying to tell me she saw me on TV.

[Xplantdad]

Glad to see you made it back home safe John. It was fun talking to you and your buddies.

You're right, B-J is an amazing event...you have to go at least once...or two or three or four times... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[AutoInsane]

How much did that interesting looking Motion car sell for? Joel's latest project. Why can't he just make 69 Motion Camaro's again?? Isn't there a lesson he could learn from the guys at Unique Performace??

http://www.uniqueperformance.com/base.aspx

[Belair62]

[ QUOTE ]
I was surprised the Banshee didn't bring more than $195K

[/ QUOTE ] I agree John....there were so many styling ques taken from this car later on....very cool....

[Canucklehead]

I could'nt believe that fugly polara that Coddington did got more money then the motion car or even the foose car, granted it was for charity but $500 for charity on maybe a $100k car thats pretty generous, consider that the 2006 shelby got $700k for a $45k car too. I also noticed how BJ and Codington like to hold hands and skip through the flowers together. The talk about great builders with codingtons name always on top and foose's name begrudingly mentioned if at all on the bottom of the list. Hmmmmm seems to be something going on here.

[LS6M22]

Yup both the BM camaro and the six shooter are built by Time machines right in my home town.I seen both very personally.IMHO neither car is worth over 100K.I think there was some hanky panky going on with both bids.I agree with all its not fair how much time they spent on the BM car but others not.Very shady!

[Belair62]

If you look at the BM Camaro from 50 feet away you could see there was a helluva lot more than 100k to build...

[JoeG]

Wow--I guess then half the auction was shady....
If you go by what you or anybody else thinks cars or property or houses or apartments are supposed to be worth---You'd better get a bigger cryin towel It's what someone is willing to pay and if you want it you put up "MO MONEY"--Simple----As far as time given to certain people or cars---------------Listen, some of these car builders and car designers are icons and I have no problem with letting them sit in the first row --They contributed to the car hobby more than you or I ever will----People are out of touch with the cost of products and services today and the large demand on them...

[Dave Castine]

Lets get 20 guys to go in on this 27.9 actual mile '70 LS6 Chevelle I'm selling and we can bring it to BJ next year!!! LOL... now the $400+k price doesn't seem all that nuts... wait, let me check my wallet...CRAP!

CLICK HERE TO SEE THE CAR... (http://community.webshots.com/album/419919698pfGdrq)

Dave C
[email protected]
781.245.6601 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

[Mr70]

Shameless plug..http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[71-LS6]

[ QUOTE ]

I spoke to a lot of nervous sellers in the staging lanes.A lot of cars weren't bringing the money and there were some good buys late.

That was my gut instinct also, once the results are tabulated, it will be interesting to compare this year's dollar amounts to last year's. My guess is that maybe we're hitting a plateau for a while.

[JoeG]

That "no reserve clause" is no fun for the seller...

[musclecarjohn]

[ QUOTE ]
Yup both the BM camaro and the six shooter are built by Time machines right in my home town.I seen both very personally.IMHO neither car is worth over 100K.I think there was some hanky panky going on with both bids.I agree with all its not fair how much time they spent on the BM car but others not.Very shady!

[/ QUOTE ]

Again...does ANYONE know why the 6-shooter was sold TWICE???

I mentioned to a friend I thought B-J might have to consider getting away from "no reserve" and his answer was "how can they go backwards".

Good answer...what does everyone else think?

[GTO_DON]

[ QUOTE ]
Shameless plug..http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[/ QUOTE ] http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Jeff H]

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Yup both the BM camaro and the six shooter are built by Time machines right in my home town.I seen both very personally.IMHO neither car is worth over 100K.I think there was some hanky panky going on with both bids.I agree with all its not fair how much time they spent on the BM car but others not.Very shady!

[/ QUOTE ]

Again...does ANYONE know why the 6-shooter was sold TWICE???

I mentioned to a friend I thought B-J might have to consider getting away from "no reserve" and his answer was "how can they go backwards".

Good answer...what does everyone else think?

[/ QUOTE ]

They said there was a problem with the first auction and the deal couldn't be done(probably bidder didn't have the money or backed out). So they ran it again and the interest was much lower.

[JoeG]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Yup both the BM camaro and the six shooter are built by Time machines right in my home town.I seen both very personally.IMHO neither car is worth over 100K.I think there was some hanky panky going on with both bids.I agree with all its not fair how much time they spent on the BM car but others not.Very shady!

[/ QUOTE ]

Again...does ANYONE know why the 6-shooter was sold TWICE???

I mentioned to a friend I thought B-J might have to consider getting away from "no reserve" and his answer was "how can they go backwards".

Good answer...what does everyone else think?

[/ QUOTE ]

There was talk among the commentators , that the list of no reserve cars was so long that even if you were selling a car with a reserve,the no reserves were given preference and they filled the list of cars to be shown.---It was a bottom line thing---But if you have people who are willing to go for it , it's money in the bank for BJ-----I think the six shooter went for a little less money the second time around.....

[Grusum]

It's my understanding that you can't even get a bidders pass unless you have either the money or financing up front. So the deal didn't fizzle because of a 'no-money' issue.

[Jeff H]

[ QUOTE ]
It's my understanding that you can't even get a bidders pass unless you have either the money or financing up front. So the deal didn't fizzle because of a 'no-money' issue.

[/ QUOTE ]

Unless the bidder had already bought a car and didn't have any money left! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif I don't know the details, but they said there was a problem with the original auction and the deal couldn't be closed so they ran it through again. It bid over $170K the first time and I think $132K the second time.

[musclecarjohn]

[ QUOTE ]
It's my understanding that you can't even get a bidders pass unless you have either the money or financing up front. So the deal didn't fizzle because of a 'no-money' issue.

[/ QUOTE ]

True...but everyone has a credit limit,well maybe not everyone http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/CharleySucks.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/BelairSucks.gif

MBNA is the only card B-J accepts and their minimum credit line is $30K.

Possibly the 1st buyer of the 6-shooter went over his limit.
Still,the seller probably wasn't too happy about going off @ 3:30 on Sunday...and for $40K less. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

[LS6M22]

[ QUOTE ]
Wow--I guess then half the auction was shady....
If you go by what you or anybody else thinks cars or property or houses or apartments are supposed to be worth---You'd better get a bigger cryin towel It's what someone is willing to pay and if you want it you put up "MO MONEY"--Simple----As far as time given to certain people or cars---------------Listen, some of these car builders and car designers are icons and I have no problem with letting them sit in the first row --They contributed to the car hobby more than you or I ever will----People are out of touch with the cost of products and services today and the large demand on them...

[/ QUOTE ]
Well I agree on the demand and money thing but as far as big names bring cars to the table I have to disagree with the "new" BM car and 6-shooter.The BM car is a far cry from the REAL ones of the 60s and 70s as those cars were built in Baldwin By Motion.Time Machines in Hudson are just a custom resto shop like many others in the world and they were lucky to get the contract.I know a lot of guys who worked on that car and I can tell you the car without the name would have went for a lot less then 450K.A LOT less!Personally I dont see that car as a true Baldwin Motion car and I feel that its just another nice custom(Foosed up looking)car.Please no flames but this is my honest opinion. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[JIM]

I lent Charlie 3 million to buy the Futureliner, I don't know what happened ? Those Million Dollar Bills Shure looked Real. Heck Even Craig liked them. Charlie we could of been riding!!! Jim http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Charley Lillard]

I tipped one of the security girls 1 mil

[Jeff H]

[ QUOTE ]
I tipped one of the security girls 1 mil

[/ QUOTE ]

So that's what they're calling them now, security girls! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

What's the story behind the Hemi Hunter 68 Mustang 428 car? Was it a dealer modified thing? It really surprised me to see that go for more than the Shelby Mustangs. I guess that would make it a supercar since they claimed 556 hp.

[mockingbird812]

[ QUOTE ]
It's my understanding that you can't even get a bidders pass unless you have either the money or financing up front. So the deal didn't fizzle because of a 'no-money' issue.

[/ QUOTE ]

At R&S auction you automatically get a bidders pass if you consign a car with them. They do not ask for any credit info. Not sure how it works with consigners at Barret.

[Canucklehead]

Nov 15/05, Wallstreet 3:30pm:
"hey Charles, im sure getting tired of these pork belly futures and citrus prices. There has got to be a better way". "Well Josh i heard that these things called muscle cars are the things to buy, and there is some place called Barrett Jackson where you go to buy them". "That sounds like a sporting idea Dave lets go to this Barrett Jackson place to buy us some of these muscle car things, pip pip".

Barrett Jackson Jan 21/05;
"Wow these cars are sure shinny Josh", "And that thingy under the hood is too and oooo look how big it is, let's buy some of these and show are friends back home". "Hey Dave that pretty blue one seems to be garnering alot of attention lets buy that one it must be good", we're going to make alot of money on these things Tee Hee, everybody will be so jealous".

So how many times do you think this scenerio went down this weekend?

[JoeG]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Wow--I guess then half the auction was shady....
If you go by what you or anybody else thinks cars or property or houses or apartments are supposed to be worth---You'd better get a bigger cryin towel It's what someone is willing to pay and if you want it you put up "MO MONEY"--Simple----As far as time given to certain people or cars---------------Listen, some of these car builders and car designers are icons and I have no problem with letting them sit in the first row --They contributed to the car hobby more than you or I ever will----People are out of touch with the cost of products and services today and the large demand on them...

[/ QUOTE ]
Well I agree on the demand and money thing but as far as big names bring cars to the table I have to disagree with the "new" BM car and 6-shooter.The BM car is a far cry from the REAL ones of the 60s and 70s as those cars were built in Baldwin By Motion.Time Machines in Hudson are just a custom resto shop like many others in the world and they were lucky to get the contract.I know a lot of guys who worked on that car and I can tell you the car without the name would have went for a lot less then 450K.A LOT less!Personally I dont see that car as a true Baldwin Motion car and I feel that its just another nice custom(Foosed up looking)car.Please no flames but this is my honest opinion. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Those weren't flames , just talk..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif
The name is what sells in a lot of different arenas---
As far as the Protouring design of Motion and others----I appreciate it's thinking on engineering and pushing the envelope on design, sort of like the car hobby version of factory concept cars.IMO --BUT- hopefully Motion's PhaseIV cars will satisfy our 60's appetite and what's going on at Chrsyler and Ford promise some exciting times--- maybe they'll even fix the GTO......I can dream..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

[Canucklehead]

I like Steve Magnante's comment on the closing credits. He said "our job here is to point out the issues with these cars and i described these cars to the best of my knowledge and if i made any mistakes or offended anybody i appoligise". I thought that was a great comment.

[musclecarjohn]

[ QUOTE ]
I like Steve Magnante's comment on the closing credits. He said "our job here is to point out the issues with these cars and i described these cars to the best of my knowledge and if i made any mistakes or offended anybody i appoligise". I thought that was a great comment. [/quote

Probably still cleaning house for all the stinging comments regarding DeCadanay and Yates from last year...

[Mr70]

Looks like they did alright this Year.
[i]"The Barrett-Jackson Collector Car Auction sold more than $100 million worth of vehicles during its six-day sale, which ended Sunday.

The sales total for about 1,100 collector cars and automobilia came to $100,061,670, including auction fees, the Scottsdale auction reported after the close of sales. Last year's total sales reached about $63 million.

"We grew more this year than we sold two years ago," said Craig Jackson, auction president.</u>

<u>Some other numbers reported Sunday</u>

• Six cars sold for more than $1 million, led by the 1950 Futurliner "Parade of Progress" bus that reached $4.32 million.

• 4,852 people were registered as bidders, coming from all 50 states and 14 foreign countries.

• Total line of credit for bidders exceeded $1 billion.

• Total number of women bidding: 48.

[Seattle Sam]

Average vehicle price $90,900

Average bidder amount spent $20,200

Female bidders - less than 1% of total bidders

Average amount spent per female bidder $2,084,618!