Muscle Car Values 10 - 20 Years Out [Archive]

AutoInsane

01-21-2006, 08:22 PM

Amazing what is going on in the high end of collector cars these days. I am floored by what is happened at Barrett Jackson. It seems like the opening bid on most cars is $70,ooo!! It would appear the gentlemen who wanted to own muscle cars in their youth have come to a time in their lives where they can afford to buy what they want and will pay up for rare, well restored cars.

From what I have seen the younger generation is not so into the muscle car scene. I am 36 and have loved muscle cars ever since I was in high school and had my 70 Camaro SS. Most of my peers (and I only can speak of guys I know) do not seem so into the older cars. They would rather have a 911 or a Ferrari 360. What do you think the next 10 or 20 years hold for the values of these terrific cars? (break out the crystal balls!) The buyers out in Arizona in general look to be in their 50's or there abouts. What happens when these guys (you guys??) are in their 70's and 80's in 20 or 30 years? Will there still be such a huge demand for the 60's muscle?

These are just my limited views and I would really enjoy to get other people's opinions on this! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

Mr70

01-21-2006, 08:30 PM

What I plan on hanging in my Chevelle 20 years from now.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif
http://www.diphase.com/images/protector2.jpg

427TJ

01-21-2006, 08:33 PM

It's a good feeling to go out into the garage and see my Camaro sitting there earning money.

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WILMASBOYL78

01-21-2006, 08:41 PM

I'm having a wheel chair lift installed in all my cars! Hope I don't sit too high in the seat wearing those Depends....

wilma http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

427rcode

01-21-2006, 08:47 PM

TOM
THERES A UNBELIEVABLE 69 YENKO NOVA CLONE HERE AT RUSSO AND STEELE IF YOUR HERE YOU GOTTA SEE IT .I KNOW YOUR A BIG NOVA COLLECTOR
THANKS
RALPH P.

427rcode

01-21-2006, 08:48 PM

ITS GOING THRU TONIGHT ILL LET YOU KNOW ON THE PRICE.THE REAL ONES ARE WORTH TONS. AND THIS ONE IS VERY NICEGARNET RED

AutoInsane

01-21-2006, 09:02 PM

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ITS GOING THRU TONIGHT ILL LET YOU KNOW ON THE PRICE.THE REAL ONES ARE WORTH TONS. AND THIS ONE IS VERY NICEGARNET RED

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Mr. 427RCODE I am going to guess this car belongs to you as you have posted in 4 different posts remarks about what a great clone this car is. I can 100% appreciate your wanting to sell your Nova but please do not use this entire web site for your personal advertising.

No offense ment to you sir but I think you can agree with me we must all not give into our personal wants and needs and should not bastardize such a wonderful web site. I think you should post an ad for your car in the "For Sale" section and let everyone know about it from there. Good luck with your auction sir. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Bill O'Brien

gemleeus

01-21-2006, 09:21 PM

these cars are definitely bringing premium prices today. it seems to me though the hemi mopars are a little low this year. most assurdely the supercars of tomorrow will be the 02 ZL1 and Dick Harrell camaros amongst others produced in this time. the folks that had the opprotunity to purchase one of these cars will surely reap that investment back later years down the road.

What a great guy Matt Murphy is also, to be associated with such a fine gentleman must have been a pleasure. GMMG will be your future Grand Spaulding performance, Motion performance etc. and with the possibility of the camaro coming back, wow that will make those cars a great investment!

DarrenX33

01-21-2006, 09:51 PM

Did you see the kid that won the plum crazy Hemi Road Runner? Maybe it's just me but I thought he looked pretty young. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Pacecarjeff

01-21-2006, 09:52 PM

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I'm having a wheel chair lift installed in all my cars! Hope I don't sit too high in the seat wearing those Depends....

wilma http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

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They have a saying down here in Florida.
The Old Folks motto.
"My eyes are so bad, I can't see anymore. My hips are so sore, I cant walk anymore. My mind has gone all fuzzy, I just can't seem to concentrate, and I lost my hearing years ago.
Glad I can still drive!" http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

427TJ

01-21-2006, 10:01 PM

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Did you see the kid that won the plum crazy Hemi Road Runner? Maybe it's just me but I thought he looked pretty young. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

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Just like the kid last year who kept egging daddy on to spend $275K on the black '68 Shelby convert.

Keith Tedford

01-22-2006, 12:17 AM

Pacecarjeff, You are describing many of us, 20 years from now. I'll be turning 80. Perish the thought. Might just have our car restored by then. The only true way to get hooked on Musclecars is to ride in one. Sadly, the nicer ones are being stored away in museums, warehouses and enclosed trailers, never to see the highways again. We need to take any an all young people for a ride. Once experienced, these cars won't be forgotten. I can pretty well guarantee that. Back in about 1973, I took a long haired kid for a ride in our COPO Chevelle. By accident, I met him 20 years later. You guessed it. He is a dyed in wool Chevy guy now with a 383 stroker motor '67 Chevy II and a '64 Chevelle drag car. His first ride in the old Chevelle still puts a smile on his face when we talk about it. You can't explain it to kids. They have to experience it to appreciate it. Give a kid a ride. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

Belair62

01-22-2006, 02:46 AM

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GMMG will be your future Grand Spaulding performance, Motion performance etc. and with the possibility of the camaro coming back, wow that will make those cars a great investment!

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I hardly think so . The guys who bought these cars werent kids...they were 100k cars ! In 20 years they will be forgotten like a lot of this stuff. The magic of the 60's will never be repeated...Mr Norm and Yenko were in a different league IMO.

Pacecarjeff

01-22-2006, 02:53 AM

80? - I'm 10 years behind you.
The only way I will stop driving is when I can't push down the gas pedal anymore.

Model T's got very cheap when that generation died out.
The muscle cars are a different breed. Flashy colors, big motors. They will a;so be popular with the next generations - only if they can afford to own one.
At this rate of price increases, all the good ones will be for display only.

I agree 100% - give a kid a ride in your muscle car.

Hope we can still find gas in 20 years.
You could always pull out your Hemi, and drop in a Turbolectric special.

@wot

01-22-2006, 04:49 AM

Race fuel will be availble for quite awhile. I can't imagine electric cars at a NHRA event.

Chevy454

01-22-2006, 05:12 AM

NHRA has had rules in place for electric cars for a bit...they're in my '02 rulebook...

@wot

01-22-2006, 05:20 AM

I'm depressed!

WILMASBOYL78

01-22-2006, 08:12 AM

You guys got me torqued up today..took the red L78 car out for a cruise. 60 degrees in NY..is this January or April??? The car didn't care, we had some fun! Oh yeh, you get 10% off L78 parts with your AARP card http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

wilma http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

JoeG

01-22-2006, 08:40 AM

20yrs-- http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif......I just hope I don't have to wear adult diapers in whatever they let me drive......

Pacecarjeff

01-22-2006, 08:44 AM

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Oh yeh, you get 10% off L78 parts with your AARP card http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

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Now I'm depressed. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

hvychev

01-22-2006, 09:24 AM

In 20 years Im only gonna be 48 so I can't wait to pick up you 80 year olds supercars for pennys on the dollar! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Xplantdad

01-22-2006, 09:25 AM

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Enoch

01-22-2006, 09:28 AM

I'll beat you to it Frank...they should unload them to me now...save them the hassle of estate planning http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Keith Tedford

01-22-2006, 10:31 AM

I think that the "Ts" and such died down because you are pretty limited as to where you can drive them. Brakes and speed keep them off the major highways and you can't just pull into any parts store for repairs. On the other hand, the musclecars are modern basic. You can go anywhere at any speed and pull into any NAPA store for repair parts. Pretty well any mechanic can repair them as well. We're putting a later LT1 in our el Camino so it even has the potential to meet modern emission standards. An LS1 would be even better. Barring restrictive laws or lack of fuel, I don't see the musclecar era vehicles disappearing very quickly, especially if potential buyers ever get the chance to ride in one.

PPPJJJFFF

01-22-2006, 04:44 PM

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these cars are definitely bringing premium prices today. it seems to me though the hemi mopars are a little low this year. most assurdely the supercars of tomorrow will be the 02 ZL1 and Dick Harrell camaros amongst others produced in this time. the folks that had the opprotunity to purchase one of these cars will surely reap that investment back later years down the road.

What a great guy Matt Murphy is also, to be associated with such a fine gentleman must have been a pleasure. GMMG will be your future Grand Spaulding performance, Motion performance etc. and with the possibility of the camaro coming back, wow that will make those cars a great investment!

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Not to low on the Mopars. 450K for one 70 Hemi-cuda and 650K for another. How about a 71 Hemi-Cuda (rebodied) for over 600K.

Hemi E-bodies are very strong!

Patrick

MosportGreen66

01-22-2006, 04:52 PM

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How about a 71 Hemi-Cuda (rebodied) for over 600K.

Hemi E-bodies are very strong!

Patrick

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I could not believe that rebodied Hemi Cuda went that kind of money...
Triple black always sells... it was a pretty car, but not something I would own as a rebody.

PPPJJJFFF

01-22-2006, 06:16 PM

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How about a 71 Hemi-Cuda (rebodied) for over 600K.

Hemi E-bodies are very strong!

Patrick

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I could not believe that rebodied Hemi Cuda went that kind of money...
Triple black always sells... it was a pretty car, but not something I would own as a rebody.

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I agree Daniel.

The Green 70 Hemi-Cuda that went off earlier in the night was beautiful. Even in Green, I love that car. I saw Tommy from Aloha Automtive advising the winning bidder during the auction. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

MosportGreen66

01-22-2006, 08:00 PM

Pat... That green Cuda was a stunning example!
I would love to own a car of the sort...
I also really enjoyed that plum crazy, pistol grip, '70 Hemi RR that went for $135,000...

NCGuy68

01-23-2006, 12:34 AM

I've had a vender space at the Charlotte Autofair for the last 15 years. The age group of people buying good used and NOS Camaro parts ranges from 15 thru 65. I always enjoy helping the younger guys with parts or advice when asked.

In my neck of the woods, there is no shortage of late model guys having fun with their F Body cars.

It will be interesting to see what happens with the fourth generation cars and parts as time goes on.

PPPJJJFFF

01-23-2006, 03:44 AM

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Pat... That green Cuda was a stunning example!
I would love to own a car of the sort...
I also really enjoyed that plum crazy, pistol grip, '70 Hemi RR that went for $135,000...

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I was thinking the same thing. Thought that car was a GREAT bargain. Looked incredible in the Plum. Seems his wife was egging him on during the bidding. She wanted that car!!

Patrick

Canucklehead

01-23-2006, 10:02 PM

It seems these days that these Pro Touring cars are getting some good money, better money then the originals in some cases. I think those are going to be the ones to buy in the future especilly ones from famous builders. Somewhat like day 2 cars from the 60's are getting now...........Anyoone see that yellow camaro pro touring car go across the block at BJ?