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chitown
02-16-2006, 11:50 PM
Hi to all on this forum. I have a 1970 Nova SS 396 body. It shows 28000? miles on the odometer. It is missing the original motor, 396. From what I have been told the car is an original big block car,by the heater core and the radiator support and it has all the emblems and markings. Its last big event was in 1982 at the Car Craft Street Machine Nationals. I purchased it in 1983 before all the hoopla and cloning of Big block cars became popular so I am pretty sure its a Big Block body..It looks to be a 4 speed, bench seat rubber mat car.I was told a few years back that a dealer on the East coast had ordered all the Big Block Novas, but then came a recession in the economy and the cars went their merry ways. My question is what motor? L78 or L34? I found a little 4x8 paper under the back seat but it seems to deal with the interior trim codes. The vin is 11427ow303XXX. Anybody have any thoughts or onfo on this. Thanks....

Bill Pritchard
02-17-2006, 12:01 AM
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I was told a few years back that a dealer on the East coast had ordered all the Big Block Novas, but then came a recession in the economy and the cars went their merry ways

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Someone fed you a big line of http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif

Welcome to the site. There are people here very knowledgeable about big block Novas....but I am not one of them http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif BTW, I was a participant at the 1982 CC Street Machine Nats. First year it was moved to Springfield IL. I won a Doug Nash 5 speed trans there http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

mnyenko
02-17-2006, 12:21 AM
Chitown, Check your fuel lines. If it has an original fuel sending unit. With a return fuel line. It was a 350 hp car. 3/8 fuel line with no return 375 hp. Earl

CamarosRus
02-17-2006, 12:37 AM
I am interested in buying your car, depending upon condition and pricing. I have a Nov 69' CKO engine with I believe a NOVA Vin on bellhousing flange, that I would like to find a correct body for....

chitown
02-17-2006, 12:47 AM
Bill. The person that gave the 411 on the east coast BS was some pay for info GM guru, I dont remember his name. Anyway Congrats on winning the tranny ,was it with your car or a contest?
mnyenko.. Thanks for the info on the gas line I will check it out....
CamarosRus .. Right now I am looking for info on the car to decide where Im going with it. What kind of resto to do.. You can email me and we can talk ..

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
02-17-2006, 01:57 AM
Hi Chitown,

There are several things to check:

Make sure the core support has the big opening - but no extra holes on the driver's side for a/c stuff. Also, make sure there is a weldnut on the front of the passenger's side for the rad to bolt into.

Check the trans crossmember for the square opening with one angled corner.

Check for the bb engine mounts, they offset the block 1/2" towards the passenger side (as does the trans crossmember).

Check for the single 3/8" fuel line, but several L34 cars have been found with only one line - primarily early cars built b4 the end of '68.

Check the driver's side rear frame rail in the wheel opening for the dual exhaust plate.

Check for rear sway bar brackets welded to the underside of the floor boards above the muffler.

Check for all the disc brake stuff.

Let us know all the codes on the trim tag, and we can decipher them for you.

chitown
02-17-2006, 03:37 AM
Thanks YDR... top line on tag st70.....11427wrn273514
second line...tr732 58 58 pnt
third line....O4A A2 1041

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
02-17-2006, 05:00 PM
ST 70 = 1970 Model
11427WRN... = Chev, Nova, 2dr, built at Willow Run, seq. body number
TR 732 = Interior is black bench seat
58 58 = Paint code top/bottom Autumn Gold Poly
04A = Build date of April, 1st week
A = Interior items other than the seats are also black
2 = Exterior moldings - 2 of them, either drip rail, door frame, body side, or rocker
1041 = An unknown production sequence number, appears to start over when either the color or transmission type change

Mr70
02-17-2006, 06:25 PM
2 = Exterior moldings - 2 of them, either drip rail, door frame, body side, or rocker'
Marlin
Could a 1970 Super Sport Nova get these Body side Mouldings?
Would these be the very same body side mouldings of which you just asked about & won yesterday?

chitown
02-17-2006, 08:29 PM
This car has chrome molding around the front and back windows. Is this what you are speaking of? The roof drip molding is chrome also.....

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
02-17-2006, 09:33 PM
RP; Yes, SS's could certainly get these moldings - my car included since I have a 3 on my trim tag. (See pic b4 I bought it!). Body side moldings are the ones I was asking about previously.

Chi-The molding around the windshields is standard on all Novas. This number on the trim tag only relates to the moldings referenced above.

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
02-17-2006, 09:43 PM
Hole in crossmember should look like this:

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
02-17-2006, 09:44 PM
Special nut on front of rad support:

John Brown
02-17-2006, 09:45 PM
Isn't A2 the Custom Exterior Trim package? Fake louvers, double lower trim, bright trim around the door and rear quarter window and the cast pot metal panel between the tail lights?

chitown
02-17-2006, 11:36 PM
Heres what was under the rear seat..

Nova Research Project
02-18-2006, 12:21 AM
John Brown,

There were no RPO codes on the trim tag for Novas. That is the correct decode for the trim tag. RPO numbers are on the Fisher Body Buildsheet. See below.

Greg R.

Nova Research Project
02-18-2006, 12:25 AM
chitown;

Welcome to the site. Here is what this decodes to:

SEQ 364 = The order the car went down the Fisher Body line the day it was on the trim line.
MO 04 = April
DAY 10 = 10. This car went down the Fisher Body line Friday April 10th or 100 Julian.
Style 11427 = 2 Door Nova only has nothing to do with engine. See VIN for that.
PLT WRN = Willow Run Fisher Body Assembly Plant
Body Number 273514 = The 273514th body assigned to Fisher Body at Willow Run in the 1970 model year. As noted on the trim tag.
Trim 732 = Black Bench seat as noted on trim tag
Upper Color 58 = Autumn Gold as noted on trim tag
Lower Color 58 = Autumn Gold as noted on trim tag
PP 4 = Unknown at this time
Box 1 A02 = Tinted Glass - windshield only
Box 2 A04 = Tinted Glass - Side windows
Box 3 A05 = Tinted Glass - Rear window
Box 4 Blank
Box 5 Blank
Box 6 B84 = Body side molding with black insert
Box 7 B90 = Bright door and window frame molding
Box 8 Blank
Box 9 Blank
Box 10 M20 = One of the flavors of 4-speed manual transmission (M20, M21, or M22)
Box 11 Zl3 = SS Body Conversion Deluxe (taillight panel with S.S. and Black SS Steering wheel) remember that Fisher did not do the front clip Chevy did. The rest of the SS badging was done by Chevy.
Box 12 ZJ = Should be ZJ1 Custom interior package (because of the buckets)
Box 13 ZJ5 = Exterior Decor Package
Box 14 1 = Is the first of a 4 number work order number used internally by Fisher Body
Box 15 041 = the rest of the work order number 1041

Interesting to note is the blanks in Boxes 4, 5, 8, and 9.

Greg R.

PS can you post the code from the passenger side rear axle tube?

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
02-18-2006, 12:46 AM
A side note, the combination of numbers in boxes 14 & 15 equal the number on the bottom row of the trim tag.

nuch_ss396
02-18-2006, 09:15 AM
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Check for the single 3/8" fuel line, but several L34 cars have been found with only one line - primarily early cars built b4 the end of '68.



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How could an L/34 ( Rochester carb ) not have a return
fuel line? Did the fuel filter have a block-off for the
return? I like to know more about this. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Steve

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
02-20-2006, 04:58 PM
Allen???