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03-07-2006, 04:01 AM
'69 Baldwin-Motion SS427 Phase III "GT" search request
I am re-posting this request, as there are a lot of new people that have joined the forum since I started my search two years ago. You old timers on here, please forgive me, but I just need that one little break to unlock the mystery of who the prior owners of this car were. So here goes...
I own what I believe to be the 1st, 1969, Baldwin Motion SS427 Phase III "GT" Corvette. It was Monaco orange (better known as Hugger orange) with a black stripe. It was on the cover of Car's magazine, back in 1969 when it was still new. Inside the article shows it at the NY auto show back in April of '69. Joel Rosen is standing talking about the car with Zora Duntov.
If you have any original owner info on this car I sure would appreciate it. When I bought it back in 1972 it was re-painted black w/twin candy gold stripes down the center and around the tail of the car. I have owned it for all these years and would love to be able to contact any prior owners and/or locate any old pic of this historic car other than those already published.
In early 1972, I bought it from a local Tulsa Ok, used car dealer that had just purchased it from Diamond Motor co. in Dallas the week before. By then it was Black with twin candy gold stripes down the center of the car and around the tail. Diamond motor co, is not able to help any at all, as they have no old records of the cars they sold that long ago. I would love to find the original owner and /or any old photos of this car. I am certain that it is the 1st one that Joel Rosen, the owner of Motion Performance of L.I. Ny. made and the same car as on the cover of the magazine.
I was lucky the gas tank sticker was still on the car and shows it came from Baldwin Chev as the new car dealer. It shows it to be a 435 hp car with Th400 trans the same as shown in the article in and on the cover of the Aug. '69, issue of High perf Car's magazine. Every other option on the car is consistent with the magazine article. Power windows, Black Leather seats, factory sidepipes. The most important one is that it was a TH-400 equipped car and you can see the auto shifter through the back window shot in the magazine article. Of the "10" GT's of this series he built, I have not heard of another one that was delivered with a auto tranny.
Please understand that I have already talked to Joel Rosen himself in person all about my car. I want to try to locate the original owner to see if I can find any old photos or other info about it. You can be sure that I intend to have Joel document it just as soon as I can afford to, but still I would like to try to find how the dam thing wound up in Dallas in 1972. Nobody seems to know who bought the car from Joel at the NY auto show. I am sure that someone must have purchaced it then. It just seems to have dropped off the face of the earth till it showed up in Dallas.
What ever you do Please don't tell me to contact or send this to Joel. He has heard enough about it already I am sure. I am ready to part with the $1500 to Joel but I am not a rich guy like most of these in the car hobby. It was very hard to hold on to these cars all these years and especially through a nasty divorce, but it is still mine and in bad need of restoration. I love my car and black is my favorite color. I am not crazy about th prospect of painting it hugger orange but I will paint it that color, if it turns out to be the actual car that was on the cover back then. Marty Schorr, who was the editor of the magazine back then has told me that it was actually Hugger orange not red like it looks on the cover. he just played with the color some so that it looked more red because it sold more copies on the newsstand.
Again I want to try to find any photos of this car that were not already published in the car magazines of that era. I would love to find the original pic of the car at the auto show or from a different source than those in the magazine. I did write the NY auto show people and here is what I received from them.
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DEAR LARRY: The article scans you sent from the August 1969 issue of CARS were most intriguing, and I'm personally certain the photos taken of Joel Rosen with Corvette Chief Engineer Zora Arkus-Duntov on pages 23-4 were taken at the New York Coliseum during Friday's press previews prior to the public opening on Saturday. Note the ladder and bundles of wiring in the p. 23 center photo, indicating the exhibit setup was still underway. The Bentley-like vintage replicar that can be glimpsed between the Rosen and Duntov in the page 24 right side photo was built by the Connecticut-based gun maker Sturm Ruger, and was shown in stand 410 on the Fourth Floor at the 1969 New York show. The dune buggy over Joel Rosen's shoulder also suggests the Baldwin Motion Corvette might have been exhibited in Petersen Publications' (Motor Trend, Hot Rod, Car Craft) "Wonderful World of Wheels Exhibit". In following up on your inquiry, NY Show Director Candida Romanelli also suggested your car might have been displayed in the main Chevrolet exhibit, and this is certainly possible as it was also on the fourth floor of the Coliseum in stand 420. With regards to this possibility is is possible to buy vintage photos directly for General Motors; I've attached a clipping that explains how to do it. - Hope this helps you too, GREGG D. MERKSAMER, Historian, New York International Auto Show
(Note they had no shots that shows my car) (DAMM....!!!)
So, Please! Help me if you can? If you have no info then PLEASE accept my thanks for your time to read this and I would like to thank you in advance for your time.
Larry Clain
Tulsa OK
918-698-3777
http://home.swbell.net/vette-65/69_motion.html
http://www.yenko.net/attachments/60900-AugCOVER69motion_GT.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/attachments/60900-AugCOVER69motion_GT.jpg
I am re-posting this request, as there are a lot of new people that have joined the forum since I started my search two years ago. You old timers on here, please forgive me, but I just need that one little break to unlock the mystery of who the prior owners of this car were. So here goes...
I own what I believe to be the 1st, 1969, Baldwin Motion SS427 Phase III "GT" Corvette. It was Monaco orange (better known as Hugger orange) with a black stripe. It was on the cover of Car's magazine, back in 1969 when it was still new. Inside the article shows it at the NY auto show back in April of '69. Joel Rosen is standing talking about the car with Zora Duntov.
If you have any original owner info on this car I sure would appreciate it. When I bought it back in 1972 it was re-painted black w/twin candy gold stripes down the center and around the tail of the car. I have owned it for all these years and would love to be able to contact any prior owners and/or locate any old pic of this historic car other than those already published.
In early 1972, I bought it from a local Tulsa Ok, used car dealer that had just purchased it from Diamond Motor co. in Dallas the week before. By then it was Black with twin candy gold stripes down the center of the car and around the tail. Diamond motor co, is not able to help any at all, as they have no old records of the cars they sold that long ago. I would love to find the original owner and /or any old photos of this car. I am certain that it is the 1st one that Joel Rosen, the owner of Motion Performance of L.I. Ny. made and the same car as on the cover of the magazine.
I was lucky the gas tank sticker was still on the car and shows it came from Baldwin Chev as the new car dealer. It shows it to be a 435 hp car with Th400 trans the same as shown in the article in and on the cover of the Aug. '69, issue of High perf Car's magazine. Every other option on the car is consistent with the magazine article. Power windows, Black Leather seats, factory sidepipes. The most important one is that it was a TH-400 equipped car and you can see the auto shifter through the back window shot in the magazine article. Of the "10" GT's of this series he built, I have not heard of another one that was delivered with a auto tranny.
Please understand that I have already talked to Joel Rosen himself in person all about my car. I want to try to locate the original owner to see if I can find any old photos or other info about it. You can be sure that I intend to have Joel document it just as soon as I can afford to, but still I would like to try to find how the dam thing wound up in Dallas in 1972. Nobody seems to know who bought the car from Joel at the NY auto show. I am sure that someone must have purchaced it then. It just seems to have dropped off the face of the earth till it showed up in Dallas.
What ever you do Please don't tell me to contact or send this to Joel. He has heard enough about it already I am sure. I am ready to part with the $1500 to Joel but I am not a rich guy like most of these in the car hobby. It was very hard to hold on to these cars all these years and especially through a nasty divorce, but it is still mine and in bad need of restoration. I love my car and black is my favorite color. I am not crazy about th prospect of painting it hugger orange but I will paint it that color, if it turns out to be the actual car that was on the cover back then. Marty Schorr, who was the editor of the magazine back then has told me that it was actually Hugger orange not red like it looks on the cover. he just played with the color some so that it looked more red because it sold more copies on the newsstand.
Again I want to try to find any photos of this car that were not already published in the car magazines of that era. I would love to find the original pic of the car at the auto show or from a different source than those in the magazine. I did write the NY auto show people and here is what I received from them.
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DEAR LARRY: The article scans you sent from the August 1969 issue of CARS were most intriguing, and I'm personally certain the photos taken of Joel Rosen with Corvette Chief Engineer Zora Arkus-Duntov on pages 23-4 were taken at the New York Coliseum during Friday's press previews prior to the public opening on Saturday. Note the ladder and bundles of wiring in the p. 23 center photo, indicating the exhibit setup was still underway. The Bentley-like vintage replicar that can be glimpsed between the Rosen and Duntov in the page 24 right side photo was built by the Connecticut-based gun maker Sturm Ruger, and was shown in stand 410 on the Fourth Floor at the 1969 New York show. The dune buggy over Joel Rosen's shoulder also suggests the Baldwin Motion Corvette might have been exhibited in Petersen Publications' (Motor Trend, Hot Rod, Car Craft) "Wonderful World of Wheels Exhibit". In following up on your inquiry, NY Show Director Candida Romanelli also suggested your car might have been displayed in the main Chevrolet exhibit, and this is certainly possible as it was also on the fourth floor of the Coliseum in stand 420. With regards to this possibility is is possible to buy vintage photos directly for General Motors; I've attached a clipping that explains how to do it. - Hope this helps you too, GREGG D. MERKSAMER, Historian, New York International Auto Show
(Note they had no shots that shows my car) (DAMM....!!!)
So, Please! Help me if you can? If you have no info then PLEASE accept my thanks for your time to read this and I would like to thank you in advance for your time.
Larry Clain
Tulsa OK
918-698-3777
http://home.swbell.net/vette-65/69_motion.html
http://www.yenko.net/attachments/60900-AugCOVER69motion_GT.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/attachments/60900-AugCOVER69motion_GT.jpg