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JRSully
03-12-2006, 04:11 PM
Does anybody know of a decent gray (factory type) paint to use on back of the 5 spoke 70 SS wheel.? Ground up doesn't carry it anymore, can't seem to locate any other vendors carrying it. Any help is appreciated. SULLY

WILMASBOYL78
03-12-2006, 05:02 PM
Paint 'em pink so you will look good in the Easter Parade!!

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CamarosRus
03-12-2006, 08:42 PM
Years ago I sent a 70 Camaro jack base to PPG in Cleveland, OH for anaylis as the jack & base appeared to be same color.
PPG came up with a formula number 35517, either in DAU or DAR (DAR they commented, that DXR-80 must be used in color)

FYI The front of 70-74 Z-28 wheels is painted with DDL 32961 LAQUER ONLY No Clear Coat.....Not Very Durable, Will Deteriate with scrubbing and washing.
I had a 70 Z-28 new and expereinced this..............

Mr70
03-12-2006, 09:27 PM
Ground Up sold Paint HDP #1219.That was a real close match to the real thing.I know they don't carry it anymore.
I saw an off grey shade in a rattle can at Sears years ago that was Damn near the original shade after I sprayed it out..I think it was a Krylon or Rustoleum blend. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

WILMASBOYL78
03-12-2006, 10:31 PM
Sully, there is a distinct difference between 69 and 70 in the shade of grey. I can't remember which way without checking, but the grey is ligher in color...I think the 70 is lighter..if you want you can use my 70 wheel to compare.

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Seattle Sam
03-13-2006, 01:14 AM
Chuck you are like an encyclopedia! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Daves70SS
03-13-2006, 02:30 AM
I had spent alot of time at hardware and auto parts stores looking for and buying several rattle cans of gray paint trying to find a close match to the gray paint on the back of the 70 SS wheels but didn't have much luck.
What I was using for a color sample was an unused 70 AO coded wheel that I had for several years.
After spending all that time looking for a somewhat close match I found out that there already was one right under my nose.It turned out that the gray paint that we use at work on the locomotive parts was closer than anything I found at the stores.Is it a perfect match maybe not but I thought it was close enough, It is made by the Carbit Paint Co. in Chicago.
On The rattle can it says speed dry enamel ANSI 61 light gray.They have a retail store in Lombard there address is:
Carbit Paint Co.
210 W. North Ave.
Lombard,IL. zip?
630-627-2303

CamarosRus
03-13-2006, 03:02 AM
Sully and others, You ask about the "5 Spoke SS wheel". I'm thinking that the SS wheel coded AU 14x7 is not spoked as shown below. The 15X7 Z-28 wheel coded AV is spoked. I do not have a 14X7 wheel to look at, so can not attest to comparing color as shown on Jack Seymour Z-28 survivor, and original jack base. PPG gave me comparison......You did not specify something close in aeresol or a paint you could order and spray with gun........Oh well I tried!!!!!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/CamarosRus/Wheels%20Rings%20Caps/14x7Rally.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/CamarosRus/Wheels%20Rings%20Caps/SmogParts.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/CamarosRus/Wheels%20Rings%20Caps/Wheel1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/CamarosRus/Wheels%20Rings%20Caps/Z28Wheel13.jpg

JRSully
03-13-2006, 03:39 AM
Chuck, the wheel in question is what is commonly referred to as the "5 spoke SS wheel" used on the 70 Chevelle and Nova SS modles only. Not the 70 Z28 wheel (71-72 Chevelle SS wheel also)to clarify. Thanks

Nova Research Project
03-13-2006, 05:37 AM
WILMASBOYL78;

Do these look familiar?
http://www.yenko.net/attachments/196102-DarkGreyVsLightGray.jpg

CamarosRus
03-13-2006, 07:44 AM
Is the composite picture above implying that these are TWO different survivor wheels with different shades of gray....If somebody were to want accurate info on what color was coming outa Norwood on 14X7 SS Camaros, should I take this either/or answer ......OR do my own homework????

olredalert
03-13-2006, 07:48 AM
-------Im not sure but I think that the composite picture is a half and half of the two sides of the wheel.........Bill S

Nova Research Project
03-13-2006, 08:20 PM
The composite is the back side of an original 1969 Wheel compared to the back side of an original 1970 Wheel.

The Left wheel is coded 'AO' the Right is coded 'YA'.

The pictures were taken in the same light on the same day.

See Tom Williams comments above.

Keith Tedford
03-13-2006, 10:31 PM
I will have to check, but I recall our YA wheels as being the lighter gray on the back. Baltimore car. The Oshawa truck plant used to have a wheel paint line until just a few short years ago. The wheels came in painted the base colour and then had the fronts painted on our paint line. Today most wheels are aluminum. I've painted wheels with the rattle can paint and it doesn't last very well. The original paint wasn't a whole lot better. Perhaps a clear coat would seal it. I'm thinking of powder coating the wheels for durability then scuff them and paint them the appropriate colours.

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
03-13-2006, 10:35 PM
I used a rattle can that was dead nutz on for the '70 AO color, something called Dove Gray'ish http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

JRSully
03-13-2006, 10:36 PM
As I am in a rush, I just ordered some of the Carbit light gray spray paint that a member suggested, had to buy a case of 12 though. If anyone wants a couple cans, let me know, cost is about $4.50 a can. Thanks to Dave70SS. SULLY

Steven J
03-15-2006, 06:25 AM
I stopped by the Carbit retail outlet in Lombard yesterday. It closed about a month ago. A notice advised to contact their outlet at 2942 W. North Ave., Chicago. 773-278-7177.

Enoch
03-15-2006, 08:21 PM
Marlin, Dove grey was that Krylon? I have used that for decades or corvette rear leaf springs...also shadow grey is great for shocks!

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
03-15-2006, 08:27 PM
Could be, I don't remember exactly.

Mr70
04-18-2006, 05:58 PM
I've used Krylon #41605 Stone Grey,with great results.
It resembles Bill Pritchards unrestored 1969 YA SS rim.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/pritchard0014.jpg

JRSully
04-19-2006, 01:53 AM
I used the Carbit gray on my 70 SS wheels, it is very nice stuff, seems very close to original and this stuff seems like it is a very industrial strength quality, goes on thick and seems harder than most Krylon/Rustoleum paints, no complaints here