Request for help with my project

[JimM]

As part of my position of electrical mod at the forum across the hall, I am working on a project called "What it is, Where it is"

When complete, this will be a pictoral representation of EVERY electrical componant and connection in a firstgen Camaro. Here's what I have so far http://home.comcast.net/~Jimragtop/What_it_is/index.htm It's not much, and most of the pics are my own car.

I need good clean pics of stock wiring and componants, clean enough to see the wire colors and connections, and hopefully with as much explaination as you can give me, particularly on 69's, as my expertise is limited to 67-68.

Post them here, pm me links, or email them to me, my email is listed.

Thanks in advance for your help with what I hope will be a valuable restoration guide.

Jim

[mockingbird812]

Terrific effort Jim and welcome to the sitehttp://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif. Don't have a 2nd Gen but this is a wonderful reference that will be a lot of work, but will do much for the guys doing restos or repairs on their camaros. Best of luck. I think there may be one or two 2nd gen Camaro guys lurking around here. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[JimM]

Thanks Mockingbird. This is about FirstGen's tho, 67-69.

[Belair62]

Excellent idea too Jim...great co-op between stes. I gotta tell ya...along with our Supercars...no matter what question pops up on any brand/style/model of car imaginable...these guys come up with an answer somehow !! Pretty amazing sometimes. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[JimM]

Thanks, Bob. Cooperation is where it's at, the best thing for all involved.

Whereabouts are you in "suburban Chicago"? I'm far west, town called Yorkville, would be cool to make your aquaintance, I've heard you deal in some fine cars.

Anything to contribute? I'd hate for all the pics to be my 68. I do have more, need to get back to work on it.

On the subject of cooperation, at this moment (on a very slow weekend) we have on my home site, side by side picture posts running, Scott is putting up some pics and Bruce has some up from last years Supercar Reunion. 300 views between the two on a slow saturday, so far, so good.

If anyone has some pics to add, please come on over!

Jim

[JimM]

It has been pointed out to me that mentioning certain names here is not a good idea. When I came in to edit it, "editing time had expired".

Pardon me, I'm new here and don't quite have everything sorted out yet.

When you read my post above, please substitute
"...picture posts running from 2 different supercar shows..."
For the existing text in the third to the last line.

If my wording has offended anyone, I'm sorry.

Jim

[SS427]

Welcome to the site Jim and thanks for a great addition. This is the sort of information that makes all these sites a pleasure to surf.
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
Rick

[Belair62]

Jim...I'm pretty sure Yorkville is where Christ lost His shoes !! I'm in Niles !! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif I will figure out how to edit your post for you...but there is only ONE Supercar Show...not two. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif I look forward to meeting folks maybe at Lombard cruise or Elmhurst...Just look for Darren and big Dan the Pickle Man Vasic...

[P.J.]

Jim Great Idea
I am restoring my 68 BB Camaro. I have the old wire set
and its cut up real good.So I ordered a complete set of
new wires from Factory fit.The reason I did that is because
I have used these wires on my L78 70 chevelle. It was recomended to me by a friend,as he challenged me to compare the new set to my old set, for the length, the colour of the wires the fusable links, everrything.I did with a vernier. They were identical to my origional in everry respect.I was so impressed with the new wires that I ordered them for my
new project 68.The only thing that was different was the headlite connecttors the new ones are clear and the old ones are brown.It only took 2 seconds for me to change them over. So if you need a pic of the new harnesses,for the Camaro, wich include the enjine harness, the dash harness, the front harness,the rear harness. the am FM harness,the multiplex harness, I will take a pic and send it too you
Peter

[JimM]

Peter, fantastic offer!
Thank you!
Shoot everything, you'll want em anyway, right?
Pics of the new harnesses layed out on the ground, kinda as it would go in, pics of the harness routing and attachment. I have the engine and lighting, need dash and rear. pics of every switch and connection. Especially dash stuff, i have the underhood and trunk from my 68, although variety is always good. Options, too... A/C, I have 69 pics but not 68. Power windows, power top...

I'll happily take whatever you have. You can email them to me, or burn em on a cd, I'll pay the postage.

sYc mod, if you guys would like a permanent link to this reference, it's not a problem. I'll always have it in my space where it is now, and shortly will be copying it to Team Camaros techref section as well.

And for Bob, yup, Yorkville is near the edge of known civilization, no doubt... but I love my acre of pines and maples, can only see my neighbors if I look hard, and we got lotsa nice smooth 2 lane roads out here... Niles, huh? that's like, almost in the city!

Jim

[Belair62]

Close as you can get to the city !! Right on the border ! ...it has it's moments ! I have to drive a few hours to get to my acre of needles and Oaks ! No clear 2 lanes to lean on anything around here....so I just do it anyway !! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[Xplantdad]

And lean on them you should... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

[mrrec]

Great effort. Just one favor to ask:
Please mark your photos (when appropriate) with "repro harness" or something similar to indicate it isn't original. I appreciate some of the repro stuff, but I've yet to see a repro harness that is right. Close, yes, and adequate most of the time.
Some wire colors, insulation thickness, terminal shrink, etc just aren't right. Tiny details, I know.
One of my pet peeves is photographs of components, engines, etc. that say "original" or somehow are supposed to be a correct example when, in fact, they are restored or repro. It's not a problem except when it is supposed to be an example of a benchmark or correctness. Confuses the heck out of some - me included.
Dave

[JimM]

Good point Dave, and I'll be sure to do that. I also need to add a lot more examples as well as cover all three years.

FYI, what's there now is from 2 cars, my 68 (these are the pics with the rad support painted blue) The electrical componants on this car are "restored original" I retaped the harnesses after cleaning, and assembled according to the AIM. The other car (black underhood) is a "driver quality 69 RS, and may have some discrepencies from original.

This project started as part of my being electrical mod, mostly for the purpose of helping guys with no clue make their cars function.

I'd love to see it turn into a restoration guide, tho I'm not sure I want to "carry that baggage", there are so many opinions as to whats right.

Part of my reasoning in posting this here is the hope that I will gather more pics of "original survivor" and correectly restored cars.

'Course then you get into that it can be real hards to see wire colors and stuff on the "survivor cars" and the ole "are we sure it's right" on the restored cars.

I have maybe another hundred pics I need to put together and get online. Unfortunately many of the pics I'm sent include little verbage and details, such as the questions you are asking.

Jim