ZL-1 oil pan & windage tray

[nuch_ss396]

Hey guys!

I have been wondering about this for some time now. Did
the Zl-1 Camaro's use a windage tray? I was always under
the impression that the Camaro subframe design mandated the
use of an oil pan design that precluded the use of a windage
tray. Is this accurate? This topic came up recently and
I figured one or more of you guys would know for sure.

Furthermore, can any other big block oil pan ( Corvette,
for instance ) be used in the 69 Camaro? If one could, I
would assume the standard L/71 windage tray would have been
included on the L/78 option.

Steve

[nuch_ss396]

In doing some further research tonight, I read that the
ZL-1 engines may have indeed used a windage tray and that
the oil pan baffle area may have been modified to work with
this windage tray. I'd like to know if the windage tray
used was the L/71 style ( 5 mounting studs ) or another
version windage tray.

Steve

[69SSZL1]

ZL-1 engines in Camaros did not use windage trays due to the Camaro oil pan.

[William]

What I was told when we did ours was that ZL1 engines were all assembled with the tray. For Camaro applications they cut the factory baffle out of the 4 quart pan. We did not use the tray and left the baffle in the pan.

Ask Ken Barnhardt.

[nuch_ss396]

How do I locate Ken?

Steve

[Eddie M.]

if I remember right they had to mod the pan cause the studs for the tray were in the way and they did not use the trays
the vet pan is to long on the bottom to fit a camaro it will hit the steering rods

[nuch_ss396]

Thanks Eddie!

I figured the Vette pan would interfere with the steering
linkage, else GM would have used it back in the day.

Steve

[Eddie M.]

it sure would have been better if the camaros could have a bigger pan seems like everytime i get on it i think about that small pan with no baffle http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[Salvatore]

Hey Eddie maybe a shallow Moroso pan would work for you. They may have them in 6QT. capacity for the BB. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[Eddie M.]

it had one on it when i first got it and i should have left it on but with the wheels i put on back then left it pretty close to the road and it did hit a couple of times but with the stock wheels there is plenty of room now maybe if i ever pull the motor back out that is what i will do unless i end up selling it its getting harder and harder to not worry about the car sure is taking the fun out of driving it

[nuch_ss396]

Recently, a member here posted a list of ZL-1 components.
At least I'm pretty sure it was here. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

I searched the archives, but I can't find it. I was hoping
to learn if the list if ZL-1 internal engine components
included the windage tray and "special" oil pan.

Anyone know of the list I'm referring to?

Steve

[Salvatore]

As prices go up the driving goes down. I am always discussing this with BBBenny about his cars. I like driving them. A lot of people think it is great that these cars keeping going up in value. I think it is a curse. #1 nobody wants to drive them anymore, and #2 who can afford them.

[Eddie M.]

I agree with you a lot of money and it took the fun out who would have thought

[Salvatore]

Drive em! Or race em!

[Dusk Blue Z]

Eddie, your reply has been up for for a day. I can't believe I am first. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Can-I-Have-It.gif
Mike

[Eddie M.]

LOL yeah must be the heat slowing em all down

[Dusk Blue Z]

I think in your haste to answer back you forgot the , after yeah. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Eddie M.]

lol yeah I guess the heat got to me to http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[nuch_ss396]

Did anyone find that list of ZL-1 components? Also, if the
oil pan had to be modified to fit the windage tray, were
there any GM written procedures pertaining to this?

Steve

[69SSZL1]

Here is the list you are looking for: ZL1 parts (http://www.copo.com/ZL1-Parts-Listing.htm) the oil pan info is in Ed Cunneen's book (original ZL1 engine AIM)that shows how to remove the Corvette pan, tray,oil pump and add the Camaro parts (pan #3955103, no windage tray). This book is a must to build a ZL1.

[nuch_ss396]

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Here is the list you are looking for: ZL1 parts (http://www.copo.com/ZL1-Parts-Listing.htm) the oil pan info is in Ed Cunneen's book (original ZL1 engine AIM)that shows how to remove the Corvette pan, tray,oil pump and add the Camaro parts (pan #3955103, no windage tray). This book is a must to build a ZL1.

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Greg,

Any idea where I can find Ed's book you referred to?

Steve

[69SSZL1]

You can but it here: copo connection (http://www.copo.com/)