1970 Nova Bench Seat Shifter

[RARE Z/28]

I am looking to purchase an original 1970 Nova bench seat 4 speed shifter assembly. I would prefer if the unit has been restored however I will also consider unrestored. I want a complete assembly including rods etc. Please let me know if you have such an item or know where I may be able to purchase one. Thank you.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Is this for the silver deuce?

[firstgenaddict]

I believe that the handle is from a GTO 68-72 with Bench seat I am not quite sure if the handle is from a bench or bucket seat GTO... the actual shifter mechanism is from a 69 Camaro... right?

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

The shifter is a '69 Z28, with the SB attaching bracket (9 hole version), and the arm is a GTO/Tempest bench seat version #4177. So, if you need a shifter for the silver deuce, you don't want the standard Nova shifter - it's completely different!

[RARE Z/28]

No this is not for the silver deuce. It is for a Fathom Blue deuce. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you,
Richard.

[Doug_9561]

Richard, Were both the shifters Dave had wrong?

Thanks Doug

[RARE Z/28]

Dave was not certain either shifter was correct. In any event Dave was extremely nice to speak with and told me that the complete shifter had been promised to a friend of his and the other was not complete. Can someone help me with the part number for the shifter? Thanks everyone!

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

The shifter is the standard '69 Z shifter, quite easy to find - the 'arm' on the 'other hand' is a 'stretch' to find http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Maybe BigChevyDaddy in FL has a few http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[camarojoe]

Here's a pic of what you're looking for.

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/217140-deuce088.jpg

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Bingo!!

Here's a few more pics for ya:

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/aacorp/shifterarm1.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/aacorp/shifterarm2.jpg

[firstgenaddict]

Or post looking for a GTO bench seat shifter handle in the Pontiac Forum...
http://forums.performanceyears.com/forums/

[RARE Z/28]

Thank you very much guys for the assistance. I work a great deal and do not have the opportunity to respond to emails during the week, so the weekend is the best time for me. Is it possible the shifter Camaro Joe has can be purchased? If not does anyone else know of one available?
Thanks again,
Richard.

[Mr70]

You might want to try contacting crash.. HERE (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showprofile.php?Cat=0&User=367&page=10&what=showme mbers).
He deals with transmissions and their related parts daily.

[camarojoe]

Sorry, the shifter pictured is not for sale, was just trying to help give you a visual of what you need to look for. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but unless you get very lucky, its gonna take some serious digging to find one..there are alot of Deuce guys (and probably some GTO guys) still looking for this piece.

[RARE Z/28]

Thank you very much for your help Joe. The images you posted did in fact help me. I had been offered a shifter from another fellow and because of your post I was able to determine it was not correct. I will continue to search!

[bilede]

I picked mine up shifter and all for $35. from a pontiac guy so they are out there just keep looking and ask for them. They don't seem to be of great value to the pontiac guys so be sure and ask and you may find they have one laying around just never knew what it was. good luck!

[RARE Z/28]

Thank you very much for your help Bill. I will continue to search!
Richard.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

There have been two arms sold on EBAY recently, perhaps 'bigchevydaddy' can hook you up with one of them http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif 'cmon man, don't bogart all the 4177's!

[bigchevydaddy]

A guy picks up one 4177 for possible future use and gets trashed. Guess I'll have to start using an ebay alias. Actually, I picked it up to compare the handle to the earlier GTO bench handles to see if they were the same. The earlier ('66 and prior) bench handles are about an inch taller than the '67 and up bench handles. The mounting is different, of course. I'd planned to modify an earlier handle to fit on an aftermarket hurst '69 camaro shifter and mount it to look like the deuce shifter setup for my '70 Nova project, just to have people scratch their heads..... And no, it's NOT a deuce clone. Mine retains the side molding.

If a deuce owner needs a 4177 handle for his/her legitimate car, and not to stockpile/flip then I'm happy to talk.

Thanks, BCD.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Hey, I'm not trashing, just noticed that I got outbid on them http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif I figured you might want to cut one loose to a deuce owner - I sold both of mine to other deuce owners too. Just trying to help the cause http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

BTW; the 3 speed bench seat arms are longer, and have a different bend to them. The difference is easy to see when next to a 4 speed version, but can be harder to spot when by itself. The 4speed version was also available on the Tempest, same application number #4177.