View Full Version : Need photo of Upper and Lower Rad Hoses for 69 Z
firstgenaddict
08-09-2006, 11:07 PM
Does anyone have a photo of NOS or Original upper and lower Rad hoses on a 69 Z? I am specifically looking for a photo of the part numbers / GM markings and of the stripe that was used to ensure correct placement.
The Repo's are no where close to correct!!!!
Thanks
RamAirDave
08-10-2006, 04:37 AM
I have a set of NOS hoses on one that I'm building now. The lower is correct, the upper is for 68 I believe.
But youre right. After looking at the "correct" repops, I chose to go with the NOS upper even though the p/n is wrong.
I can get some pics tomorrow if no one here has any by then.
dave
firstgenaddict
08-10-2006, 03:55 PM
Thanks
I am going to make a stencil, silk screen, or stamp so I can replicate the original lettering and logo but most of all I want the yellow stripe on the hose that shows the correct position. The repop stuff is so bad that it made me laugh? If you are going to go through the trouble of reproducing something... do it right!
I really wish there was a Chevrolet reproduction parts supplier that gave their view/opinion of the quality of the parts... much like Ames does for Pontiac.
They give you the low down and then you can make the decision on whether to buy it or not, if it is not right they tell you, if it is all that is available they tell you that as well... Sure would be http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
kwhizz
08-10-2006, 04:46 PM
The Repo's are no where close to correct!!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
Thanks
First gen
Imagine That!
Ken
RamAirDave
08-11-2006, 02:21 AM
Here's a few I took today. Have a few more I can email if interested.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/RamAirDave/GoldZ/100_2644.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/RamAirDave/GoldZ/100_2646.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/RamAirDave/GoldZ/100_2650.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/RamAirDave/GoldZ/100_2654.jpg
dave
Dusk Blue Z
08-11-2006, 02:38 AM
I took a look at the hoses from my car which I think are original, I've owned the car 27 years. My picture came out pretty bad but I can work on it if you want to see them.
The top hose does not have any writing left on it but under where the hose clamps were, you can see a BLUE stripe, that runs the whole length of the hose. The stripe is 1/8" wide and looks like it was put on with a perf. wheel. As the hose is mounted to the radiator the stripe would have been at about the 1 Oclock position and runs straight down the hose. It has 1/4" letters of A U C cut into the rubber 5 times during the whole length.
The lower hose has GMAU with 3942561SM under it printed in White, 2 1/8" from the radiator end printed straight up so you could read it. This also looks like it has the same BLUE line, but it is harder to see. The cut letters from end to end are A U A A B A U A AB
After re-reading this I think I better work on getting better pictures or just send you the hoses. Questions?
Mike
firstgenaddict
08-11-2006, 02:46 AM
Thanks for the replies everyone. The little bit of research I have done so far has turned up different fonts, font sizes, and stripe colors...
RamAirDave
08-11-2006, 04:11 AM
The lower hose in my pic is also a 561 SM hose like Mike's. No stripe, though. Neither has ever been on a car before, so maybe the factory hoses differed slightly.
What I believe to be date codes on them:
Upper: 6L19A
Lower: 4L30C
Were the original thermostat housing gaskets blue like the ones that Autozone gives you today or were they brown?
RamAirDave
08-11-2006, 08:59 AM
I dont know for sure, but I would doubt they were blue.
firstgenaddict
08-12-2006, 11:14 AM
Dave the part number is correct for a 68 on your upper hose but the letter code is not right... JR is the 69 letter code, UY is the 68 letter code. The factory photo of a 68 Z engine compartment in Jerry's book has the part number about 1.5 inches tall and the hose has a yellow stripe down the length at 12 o'clock.
firstgenaddict
09-17-2006, 09:26 PM
Here is a 68 Z28 Original GM Photo... this is from McNeish's book. Note the size of the lettering on the hose. http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/500/68_Z_Engine_GM_Photo_small.jpg
mrrec
09-18-2006, 05:37 PM
There isn't going to be a "right" hose. Fonts, locations of lettering and stripes, stripe colors - all vary with the different mfr's and dates or batches that were made. Pick a known original hose or factory photo and duplicate it. Glad to see the interest in these details!
Dave
firstgenaddict
09-19-2006, 01:50 AM
You inspired me to do it right Dave... LOL
As far as the no "One" correct hose... I have begun to figure that out... WOW I have collected more pics of hoses than I thought humanly possible.
I am really just tired of paying for reproduction pieces that are no where close to correct.
It is insane that the resto guys charge stratospheric prices for crap that my 2 year old niece could tell is different than the original...
Wish someone would start a resto parts company like Ames... where they would tell you whether the part was exact... so so... needed alot of work... or not very good but the only thing available. At least then you can make an educated decision. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif
Tommy_Mathison
10-19-2006, 03:33 AM
Check these out... supposedly original and currently on a 69 Z28
Tommy M
Tommy_Mathison
10-19-2006, 03:34 AM
http://www.yenko.net/attachments/229337-c7_12.jpg
firstgenaddict
10-19-2006, 10:16 PM
Thanks for all of the help everyone... I have identified at least 3 different hose markings used during production and I am in the process of having stamps made for 2 of the uppers and 1 lower... it may be a few months as I have been extremely busy at work and have not had too much free time to do what I want to do... PLAY WITH CARS!
rszmjt
10-20-2006, 03:48 AM
My lower rad hose is the same as Dusk Blue Z,s post. I did some measuring and the GMAU starts 2&5/8 from the end and go,s to 3&5/8th, ( 1" in length) It face s almost straight up from the lower neck rad outlet. The GMAU letters are 3/4" tall. You would read it from the centreline of the car if you were standing from the front. The part number is below the GMAU. The part number only has a few digits visible. It also has the stripe but i would say the colour ( whats left of it) is more white? than blue? The stripe had lots of little stripes along the length and they are trapped? by a upper and lower continous line the hole length of the hose. I have owned the car 33 years, 44,000 miles. I took the hose off the car a few years ago, it had some weather cracks and i did not want to risk using it. My top hose is long gone. My car is 06A by the way. Hope this helps somewhat. Mike.
Tommy_Mathison
10-20-2006, 06:02 AM
James, have you determined a source for the correct hose itself? It seems the originals had a rough texture to them as opposed to the smooth reproductions.
Tommy M.
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