1969 copo camaro

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for sale:

1969 copo camaro X11, 61 61, owner history, copo connection and U.S. camaro club certfied, 54,000 miles, gardner exhaust, original interior.

questions? [email protected]

asking $245,000.00 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[quick-bowtie]

nice looking car..looks just like mine except - a vinyl top and rallys..Wish mine would has came steel wheels love that look! good luck with the sale.

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hey, i think they look just as nice with rally wheels!
here is an interior shot.

thx, alan http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[SMGCO]

Very nice.

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here is a motor pic, thx for the positive comments!


alan http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[deuce-less]

copo is now recieving the original block, rebuilt to spec. and will be ready to run late next week. would entertain fair offers.

thx, alan http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[NovaMob03]

Alan, talk about finding a 'needle in a haystack'! You must have a cool story about locating that motor after it'd been seperated from the car for 20+ yrs. How'd you find it http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
For those that don't know....the Burnished Brown COPO went from W. Va. to Fla. to New Mex. to Ga. to Nev. Was the original motor somewhere in the Northeast?
Pls make me a deal on the engine I had in it before I put a Vette motor in my other Yenko http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

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jude,

the original engine was found in a 68 road race camaro in or around stockton california. i purchased the motor from a gentleman in grants pass oregon and yes the motor you want is available.

alan http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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the original engine that was found has now been installed in my copo camaro, while it was apart the radiator was freshened and a rebuilt original big block shifter complete with back-up light switch and reverse lock-out rod were installed, of course additional detailing and paint work as well.

the MN coded long block which was in the car is now a bonus to the purchaser of my copo, TO 512.

the price has been reduced as well to any syc member

$225,000.000

remember the price does include the additional MN coded long block!

thx, alan http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[SMGCO]

Alan, stay strong.

[deuce-less]

good thought, although i would like to concentrate on the restoration of the "blue mule", maybe a guy should have two copo camaro's.

in the end, when a car is restored just right, keeping it is not such a bad option.


thx, alan http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

[Salvatore]

That is a very nice car. Love that rare color!

[deuce-less]

i originally saw another 1969 camaro done in burnished brown several years before purchasing this copo camaro and decided then, that when done right , it really looks good.

recently i saw a very original 1969 chevelle in burnished brown, it looked super as well. i guess the key is getting the right guy to apply the color, thank's to ken schoenthaler.

alan http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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fresh pic of the undercarraige and correct shifter linkage installed, including the reverse lock-out rod

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close-up

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correct gardner exhaust system

[csx289]

Please do not take this as a negative comment -
Just wondering if that is a Gardner exhaust or some other brand? The mufflers look different, as do the clamps and the "crimp" bends on the pipes. Looks like the Walker exhaust that you used to be able to buy. The rear muffler clamps are certainly wrong, wrong plating and they are a modern design.

I only ask to learn, as this system looks nothing like the Gardner systems I have installed, unless they have changed them and this is more correct. Last Camaro one I installed was on my ZL1 last year...just curious. If you don't ask questions, you don't learn, right?

Looks like a nice car. Good luck with the sale.

Colin

[William]

Hi-Perf Cars Aug 69 has a nice feature on ZL1 #3 with several excellent photos. One of them is undercarriage shot of the axle & exhaust system, the only such photo I know of.

To compare:

The driveshaft is not original.

ZL1 #3 was built with a standard dual exhaust system with resonators; the chambered was added when Billy P owned it. In the photos there is not a wrinkle to be seen; all mandrel-bent. OE systems had the front pipes welded to the resonators, there are no clamps. The rear clamps are different and the threaded portion of the U bolt extends very slightly beyond each nut.

It also appears the rear axle flange is painted black. John Z has stated this area was masked when the axle was painted. By the way axles were painted with the brake drums installed; they should be black same as the axle. There are a number of vintage photos showing black drums. Cast blast is not correct.

The car looks outstanding and apperars to be an excellent restoration. Good luck with the sale!

[deuce-less]

hello colin,

according to the gardner exhaust people, who made the system for this copo 06A, it is correct right down to the clamps. the mufflers may look different because the system is a late system built to be correct for this june car, it actually has three mufflers as part of the complete exhaust system, the two in the picture and a third, tucked up near the fuel tank. the pic's i have from gardners web site of other systems which they have built, appear to have the same type of clamps which they supplied to my mechanic for the installation.


thx, for the input, alan http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[deuce-less]

one of the great things about this site are the people with lots of knowlege. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

i think that there is probably room for improvement on most restored cars. perhaps the details are what defines somewhat the ultimate sale price of any muscle car.

alan

[Mr70]

Well said.

[camarojoe]

[ QUOTE ]
ZL1 #3 was built with a standard dual exhaust system with resonators; the chambered was added when Billy P owned it. In the photos there is not a wrinkle to be seen; all mandrel-bent.

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Here's a photo of the front portion of the exhaust system on the #3 ZL1 supposedly taken in 1969 that shows no mandrel bends, wrinkles at every turn.

[shor]

joe,your vast library of pictures never ceases to amaze me.
have you been slowly moving them over to digital form for quick storage and retreival, not to mention preserving them forever?

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great photo, it shows the reverse lock-out rod as well, i guess a picture can be worth a thousand words. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[William]

A magnified picture is worth a thousand words in this case.

Also note no heat riser on the #3 car.

In one of the underhood photos the alternator bracket mounting stud does not have a nut.

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heading for e-bay next week http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[deuce-less]

e-bay ad # 250036252550

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[mockingbird812]

Here you go Alan...

Burnished Brown '69 C.O.P.O. Camaro (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay .com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Fcgiurl%3Dhttp%25 3A%252F%252Fcgi.ebay.com%252Fws%252F%26fkr%3D1%26f rom%3DR8%26satitle%3D250036252550%26category0%3D%2 6fvi%3D1&item=250036252550)

Good Luck! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

P.S. tell us about the speeding ticket found during resto! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[firstgenaddict]

The cowl induction seal is on up side down...

[deuce-less]

we wanted to leave something for the new owner to be able to repair himself.

thx, alan http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[deuce-less]

thx for the link.

jude found the speeding ticket when the car was restored at kens place. i believe that it was dated around 1970 and the driver was cited for speed in excess of safe road conditions.
it seems like even back then it was hard to find a place to stretch a cars legs! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[MosportGreen66]

This is Jude's old car?

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you are correct, judes old car, restored by ken schoenthaler, dec.05.

being sold now to make room for "the blue mule"

alan http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[MosportGreen66]

Jude sold the car to you without the original motor and now its for sale with the "born with" original motor? Nice find... good luck!

Would you be interested in trades?

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always willing to discuss trades


thx, alan http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Born30YrsLate]

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always willing to discuss trades


thx, alan http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Need a kidney?...

[deuce-less]

now that is creativity! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

that's one of the best things about this site, we haven't lost our sense of humor.

thx, alan

[Born30YrsLate]

I got all the stones out if it, so it should be good for another 25 yrs...my liver on the other hand has a lot of work to do yet... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[resto4u]

I am confused? Is wagners selling the car for alan, or did wagners buy it? Thanks,Roger

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wagners is providing marketing for the car, scott wagner is an old friend. the car is located in bonner springs and owned by alan forman.

thx, alan http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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ebay reserve just lowered


thx, alan http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[deuce-less]

e-bay proved somewhat uneventful, still looking for a good home for my copo camaro...

any offers?

thx, alan http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[SMGCO]

Alan, I know it's easy for me to say to you without knowing your situation but stay strong. The process can be slow and somewhat painful but don't get discouraged and give it away. I know I have done that in the past and you will beat yourself up for years if you do. It's a beautiful/special car and from what I can see of it you deserve the market. ( Don't go by what recent low trades/auctions prices have recently been posted here ). The market has some weakness at the moment but a real Copo is a real Copo.

[deuce-less]

very kind comments.

i suppose the real challenge is in actually knowing what the market really is...

thx, alan http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[deuce-less]

new price:

179k

a great buy for someone.


alan http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[deuce-less]

just to clarify, new price does not include the additional MN coded long block discussed earlier in this thread.

thx, alan http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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additional discount available to syc members...
for a clean quick sale http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif


thx, alan

[Stefano]

Looks like a cool car for the $$$$$.

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COPO is sold.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

thx, syc

sold to wagners classic cars...
1-913-422-1955

superb copo for the dollars