Joe Janos' (JOZW30) 1972 W30... Wow!

[Xplantdad]

Thought I'd send in a few pics of my recently finished Olds.

No real thrilling story about the car necessarily. I am an Olds fan, have been my whole life (although there was that semester in college I drove a Chrysler Cordoba, but I don't like to talk about that dark period in my life too much). Anyway, I sold a 68 Hurst/Olds about two years ago after completing a frame off resto on it. The car was too nice to drive really, so I made out pretty good selling it, and the car went to a good home.

I decide this time to build a driver, and I wanted a ram air 4-speed car (Olds obviously). The car I continue to lust after is a 1970 W30 or W31 in Aegean Aqua. It is a special order color, but there were a few made. Someday I'll find one.....

No luck finding anything to match that, I started opening up the year and color restrictions. 1970 W30 cars are just getting out of my price range, so after a couple of months I stumbled on this 1972 W30 4 speed on the internet and made the deal. It's one of 128 W30's exported to Canada in 72.

I made the mistake of paying an appraiser to inspect the car instead of flying out out see it myself. Other than the paint not being as nice as the seller or appraiser said it was, the only negative was that the block turned out not to be original, so I paid a bit more for the car than I should have. Some people in this hobby................

Had the car shipped straight to the paint shop where we tore it down right away. I took the motor home with me and over the winter rebuilt it, and re-finished all the other parts. I had the heads cleaned up, and installed an NOS 1970 W31 cam in the motor along with higher compression pistons. Think I'm around 9.5:1. Put a 2 1/2" Pypes exhaust system with the quietest mufflers they sell. Still quite a bit louder than stock, but I'm glad I did it.

This car is a blast to drive. The wife and I are finding local events every weekend now to go to. Got about 600 miles on it, so I'm just about ready to open her up a little and have some fun. I loved that 68 H/O, but this car is way more fun.

Thanks for letting me share!

Joe

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[Dave Rifkin]

Beautiful car; one question though..........you put a W31 cam in a W30 car? I thought the W31 was a 350 and the W30 was a 455? I don't know a whole lot about Oldsmobiles so you'll have to forgive me if that's a stupid question.

[g503jeep]

All engines 1968 and up, 455 400 403 350 307 260, use the same lifter bank angle of 39°. the earlier engines
had 45 degree bank angle,same bank angle you can use the cam from any engine
you can put the same cam from any engine displament,after all their is no size diference externally ,like in a chevy big block or small block, i think the 455 is only noticed by a casting hump diferent than a small dispaclement

[kwhizz]

WOW!!!!!!!!!!! Nice Detail work..........Beautiful car....... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Ken http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[JOZW30]

Thanks for the compliments, and it's definitely not a stupid question. The cams can be swapped between the 350, 400, and 455 (not sure about others).

I was really struggling trying to figure how to build this motor (my first one by myself). I wanted to wake up the de-tuned 72 a bit, but still be "drivable".

The W31 cam was pretty radical in the small block, But it seems to work really well in the 455. The car has a little bit of a rough idle, but is pretty smooth through the first half of the pedal. Seems to just come alive when you get past half way. I was a little woried about how that cam would behave, but it's really fun (old school all the way!)

[olredalert]

Joe,,,, Beautiful W30. I love the color. I brought my brothers 71 W30 home from the dealership brand new and they were just great cars. Rode and drove so nice. Unfortunatly he kind of ruined his with some bad choices as far as day-two stuff was concerned. Did 72 W30s not have the red inner fenders??? The 72s are just rare enough that I cant remember ever looking at one close up.........Bill S

[JOZW30]

Thanks Bill! The color is called Flame Orange. No red inner fenders for 72 (rumors are 10 early 72 W30s got the 71 left overs, but it would be tough to prove).

Still have a few little pieces-parts to replace or redo, and I'd really love to find a set of steel wheels. Although it sounds like everyone else is looking for them too.

[TimG]

Well, Joe, you've got my heart pumping now. Same color (Flame Orange) as the '72 442 I talked my mom into buying new when I was 16. Ours was a black interior, too. Man, that brings back memories. I'd love another one.

[71-LS6]

Joe, I love your car, what a ride. I had no idea that Oldsmobile ever offered an orange paint option like that. Did the 72's have a dual disc clutch assembly?

[JOZW30]

Steve,

No dual clutch (W-37 option code I think). Pretty rare option I think.

I do have the GM Canada paper work with all of the info on how the car let the factory.

Not too many options checked off at all on this one.

[WILMASBOYL78]

STUNNING!!

wilma http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Bill Pritchard]

Holy cow, after looking at the undercarriage picture, that's your idea of a 'driver'? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif Please don't come to look at my car! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

Seriously, that is one stunning automobile. Glad you're out enjoying it http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Xplantdad]

Bill, I was thinking the same thing. What a cool http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif Olds! Joe, thanks for sending the pics and write up...and for participating in the Members Rides section.

What a beautiful example of a muscle car! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Belair62]

Absolutely beautiful......

[TimG]

The same color was available in 1972 Chevrolet and Pontiac lines, also. I don't know if it was a Buick color. We liked that color in 1972 and looked at an orange Pontiac LeMans and an orange Chevrolet Camaro.

[Canuck]

Joe
As a long time "Olds guy" i can appreciate this car in every detail and it looks like you took care of them all. I owned a 72 W-30 hardtop in Flame Orange witha white Interior and stripes. It was sold new in Sask and I still have all the GM Canada Docs on the car. Flame Oranege seemed to be popular in the hardtops. Where was your car sold new. PM me if there are any pieces you are still looking for.

[musclecarjohn]

Wow...absolutely stunning! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[PeteLeathersac]

Love it....wow, super sano and clean!!! .

I remember when I had my '69 & '70 442 Post cars shunning the '71 & '72 cars....25 years can sure make a difference (sure has the the opposite effect on women) .

In my boneyard days I recall forking and shoving a similar '71 442 coupe into the squeezer....hit on the pass. quarter and I'd already sold the hood and best parts. . Pretty sure it was the same pressing when I tossed that '69 Judge coupe in I've mentioned before? .

I have to admit I always enjoyed sending the Rustangs in....knew it was wrong with so many others but scrap was like $55/ton so had little choice as my save pile was too big already! .

And they do squeal, the cars when being squeezed....I can still hear them sometimes! .

~ Foolish Pete

[JOZW30]

Thanks for the kind words everyone! I love seeing all the awesome cars on this site! Cool to have mine included. Makes all the hard work worth it.

A year and a half ago or so, you guys were commenting on my 68 Hurst Olds that was on E-bay, that's how I found this site.

Hey Canuck, the W30 originally sold at a dealership called Arthur Sirios Ltd. in Riviere duLoup, PQ (where is that anyway?). Sent letters to the first two owners in Canada, but no response.............

I do have a couple misc. parts I need, I'll send you a PM in a bit.

[SmallHurst]

Very nice looking ride! I wish I could open up a home for wayward Oldsmobiles, but I believe that my wife might kill me! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

[Canuck]

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Hey Canuck, the W30 originally sold at a dealership called Arthur Sirios Ltd. in Riviere duLoup, PQ (where is that anyway?). Sent letters to the first two owners in Canada, but no response.............



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Canada is a huge country,about 1000 miles wider than USA. Quebec is on the east coast and Rivere Du Loop is in the Eastern regions of the province. A lot of cars sold in those Eastern towns got shipped into Labrador where the high paid construction workers needed something to spend their money on. No guarantee that that was the history of your car. Many early owners may have been transient. I know of two other 72 w-30 hardtops in Flame Orange that were sold new in Canada other than the one I had.

[tom406]

That orange was popular, my parents' '72 Lemans GT was the same shade of orange.

Your "driver" restoration is very sanitary, the '68 H/O must have been stunning.

Sorry your appraiser experience was poor. It's a wide open industry, and you really have to interview people to make sure they're up to the task. Some of us do know what we're doing, however http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Here's a link to that green '72 W30 for sale up here in the Pacific NW. Not nearly as cherry as the one featured here, but a fun color and a 4sp as well.....

http://www.memorylanemotors.net/carpics.php?car=72442

TOM

[JOZW30]

Thanks Tom!

The 68 was a frame off "trailer queen" & I don't have a trailer.

I enjoy driving these cars too much & it was too nice to take the road wear.

I guess my use of the term "driver" may be a stretch. I have driven this W30 to a show or cruise almost every weekend this summer. My 68 was driven to three local shows in two seasons.

Love that green, bench seat car in the link. I am looking for a set of those steel wheels for mine, I really like that look!

[Xplantdad]

I just want to revisit this Members Ride and say that this Olds is still stunning years later!

Joe and his wife are great folks and we're happy that they decided to make AZ their home. Can't wait to get together with them soon <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

[DW31S]

Wow!!! What a good looking car!!!I have to agree with some of the others on your idea of driver. I'm almost finished my idea of a frame-off driver ('72 442) and about the only difference is my floors aren't as shiney and I added some aftermarket speed and handling stuff. Oh yea, one more thing, mine is a small block-4 speed. I'm a SBO guy so I can appreciate the W-31 cam---I have the stock stuff from my race car ('69 W-31 in avatar) on a stand and built another '69 engine to goof off with. The '72 has the original engine, but it is built, too. When I figure out this picture posting thing, I'll be glad to show you my cars. What '68 H/O was your's? I try to follow the Oldsmobiles pretty closely and am curious what car was your's and when and what it sold for. I am currently looking for a &quot;post, 4-speed&quot; Rallye 350 to do (remember I am a SBO guy) so if you or anyone here knows of one (that I haven't seen yet) please let me know.
Again, congrats on your car!!! It is awesome!!!