Need a value for a 68 Z/28.

[Pacecarjeff]

I have the opportunity to buy a 68 Z/28.
British green, with light green interior. Absolute original drivetrain.
Cowl plenum, smog ect nice interior. Low #2 driver condition.
Some rust and scaling on the frame. But a real nice authentic car. Needs a good clean, buffing/touch-up, and detail, along with a mechanical freshen, and brakes.
(been sitting a few years)
No factory documentation, But the engine stamp is just right.

Any opinions? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[firstgenaddict]

Has it been restored or is it original / semi original?
If it was restored years ago... to what standard was it restored?

If it is an older restoration... talking the mid 80's or so then there may have been alot of NOS stuff used during the resto... which would still be extremely nice (although it could be dirty or just had the wrong finish put on it during the resto.) and expensive/hard to come by now.
IMHO cars restored to a high standard using correct NOS or orginal parts with correct finishes ie Laquer paint in the early - mid 80's but showing some minor wear are probably a very good buy... because to replicate the resto currently with correct parts would be cost prohibitive (if you could even find the parts at all.)

[Pacecarjeff]

Mostly an original car. Not many replacement parts at all.
Original interior except front seats. One lacquer repaint in the late 80's - still pretty nice. Engine rebuild a few years ago- all authentic, not many replacement parts, that I couldn't fix it a few hours from my own supply.

The car was not taken apart, but the frame is not the greatest I have seen - Has a bit of heavy scaling from rust, but this is only cosmetic, the integrity of the frame is still very solid. All original sheet metal, with some small repairs in the usual places (done right)
The only real items it would need right away are new springs and complete brake restoration.
Also I would have to reassemble the exhaust and smog system, and remove the headers -- The original pump, and manifolds come with the car, but would need to find tubes, diverter, DG pulley, and hoses, (pretty easy)
If I can get past the Ivy Green interior (not one of my favorites), it might be easier for me to decide.
He is asking High 40's. What do you think? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

I think it is a very good deal, the wife is NEVER so sure.
So if the guys here agree with me, my chances are good.
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[lzdick]

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...So if the guys here agree with me, my chances are good.
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So Jeffie...what is it worth to ya for me to say the 'magic' words? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[Pacecarjeff]

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...So if the guys here agree with me, my chances are good.
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So Jeffie...what is it worth to ya for me to say the 'magic' words? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

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Thanks, but that won't work. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Still going to be very tough to convince her.

I just really don't have a clue about the prices of the 68's.
If it was a 67, or a 69, it would be easy.
If it wasn't Green, with that Ash Gold (ivy green) interior, it would be easier too.
Just a very nice authentic -Real 68 Z.
A friend of mine owns it, not offered to the public yet.
I have stalled for over a year, now he really wants it to go.

My wife remembers that I always called 68's the orphans of Camaro 1st Gen's.
And she is always looking for ANY reason NOT to buy another car.
Now that is her new saying around here. "it's a Ugly Green Orphan!" http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[lzdick]

Wow, they you could say you own a 1968 YUGO...

<font color="green"> "Your Ugly Green Orphan" </font> http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

[68l30]

Ivy Gold is a great color for an interior..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif


Steve

[Pacecarjeff]

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Ivy Gold is a great color for an interior..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif


Steve

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Yes it really is. You have a great car, Loaded with great options.
Very special. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

I really don't mind the colors at all, just the high asking price for a 68.
Sure I would rather have a Black/Black RS Z/28.
But don't know how fast I will find one.

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[1railman]

I passed on a similar car this year. Red, red, no docs, real original motor car, no cowl plenum, missing smog, very nice car although restoration was not good enough to show on higher level. Car finally sold for $40.

[juliosz]

I just sold my 68Z through the forum here in July. One re-paint (needs new paint to be really nice), Original block, non-original heads but correct casting number. Everything else matched. No smog or exhaust manifolds (headers). Lemans Blue, blue interior, no console. 24,000 documented miles and a pile of documentation (POP, sales contract, body broadcast, pictures etc.). I got really close to my asking price of $45,500.00. I would say this car is a bit over priced in the high 40s. Low to mid 30s would probably be more like it although for resale the color combo and lack of docs would be a hard sell for many. Sounds like a nice car however.

Paul

[Pacecarjeff]

Thanks for the honest opinions.
Thanks for the PM's I received.
I wish I had seen your car Paul, that is one I would have wanted.

This is exactly what I had thought. I offered $37K for the car a year ago. No deal, just started getting anxious again. I think I am trying to talk myself into this, when really I should just trust my initial instinct.

As always the wife is right again. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[juliosz]

Jeff,
You are in the same boat I've found myself in several times where you're trying to talk yourself into something that is a pretty cool find but not a great investment based on the price. When I started looking for my 68 several years ago, I talked to Jerry M. and told him I wanted a car with documentation. He told me that I would severly limit my choices of some really nice vehicles. He's right, but when my wife and I discussed spending the amount of money we decided on spending, we wanted an investment quality car or a car that had the building blocks of being investment quality. Don't know your situation but that was ours. On 68 Z's, if you look at cars that have come up for sale, no docs seem to really hurt the value. A red on red 68 was mentioned in an earlier post. If it's the same car I'm thinking of, it was posted on EBay at least two times and never made reserve. Looked like a really nice car too. Beside docs on 68s, it even looks like the lack of docs even hurt the value of 69 Zs that even have trim designation X77, X33. Might be wrong about that, but that's the way it seems.

Paul