M&H RACEMASTER slick decoding needed!!

[Verne_Frantz]

I need help decoding a pair of NOS M&H cheater slicks I have. Each tire has an old brown shipping label which says M&H RACEMASTER WARETOWN, MASS on it. They were shipped to California Speed & Sport Shop, Jersey Ave. New Brunswick, NJ. These tires have two segmented circumficial grooves in the slick surface and two very fine raised circumficial ridges on each side about 1/2" below the meat of the slick. (sorry, if I had a camera, I could post pictures)

Each tire has the following raised lettering: 7.0/30.5-15, NOT FOR HIGHWAY USE. Each also has an indented mold mark (between the typical 2 screw holes) with raised numbers 130. ( I believe this may be the compound #) Each tire also has yellow crayon writing on the contact surface that says,
7.0
30.5
130

One tire has a raised R-7 and one has F-7. One tire also has a mold plate (with the typical screw heads) with J491706. The other has J491805.

I'm always amazed at how Rick can decode OEM tires, but I was hoping someone could decode these M&Hs for me. The raised large letter M&H RACEMASTER logo is in outlined letters, but with no white ink anywhere. One tire has a white ink stamp about the size of a postage stamp with 2 characters in it, but I can't make them out (maybe a letter and a number?)

I mainly would like to know what date these tires are. And any other info would be greatly appreciated. (or any leads where I can find it)

Thanks guys! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Verne

[Belair62]

Those are new repops..I'll give you 50 bucks for them

[Verne_Frantz]

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Those are new repops..I'll give you 50 bucks for them

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Go soak your head! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[396L35]

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Those are new repops..I'll give you 50 bucks for them

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They are new repops..I'll give you $100 for them!!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[Verne_Frantz]

Come on guys................. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

If these turn out to be the right dates, I already have the perfect car in mind....... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

That short person in Chicago can probably guess what it is.............. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Verne

[Salvatore]

Vern, I have a 71 catalog that those tires are listed in exactly. 130 and 131 are the compounds. Sam

[Verne_Frantz]

'71 huh? I was hoping they might have been offered about 8 years earlier.... Does the description describe what that compound was suited for?

I hope someone can DATE these tires.

Sam, I appreciate your input. Thanks for the response. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Verne http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Salvatore]

Yes, 130 was for "MOVE POWER" effective for most track conditions. 131 was for "EXTREMELY" poor traction strips. The 71 catalog listing does not mean they were not available earlier. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[Verne_Frantz]

Thanks Sam,
I wish someone could date them from the mold numbers. The faded shipping labels have zip codes on them, so I guess that dates them at least as 63+ (I think '63 was when they started that) http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
I did look in an Honest Charley catalog I have form 65 1/2. M&Hs are listed but these are not.

Anyway, they're still as soft and supple as new. Always stored in a cool dark place. I'm not fishing for a buyer because I had no intention of selling them, but I heard from someone I know who is looking for a pair like these for a very special car, but I have no idea what they're worth. (maybe $300.??)

I know a lot of early ones had sizes like 8.50-9.00, or 8.75-9.25, etc, so I wonder if the 7.0/30.5-15 is an earlier or later labelling technique? (I'm guessing later. I think the diameters became important later)

Anyway, thanks. Sure wish I could date them.

Verne http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Jeff Murphy]

Again not a date, but they aren't in a 69 Midwest Auto Specialities catalog. The tire sizes are still in the 900/15 style and they show Super Stock tires with compounds of XS11/12/14 or Stock Drag tires with two visible grooves and compounds 140/150/160.

[Verne_Frantz]

Thanks Jeff. I bought a new set of the SuperStock slicks (no grooves) in '69. I still have them. They're labelled 8.90/9.00 - 15 and the slick is actually 9.5" wide. They're XS-11s

Unless we've missed something, I guess that nails them down to '70-'71 because of the change in size labelling. Funny this is, they don't have the white in the M&H lettering. Mine from '69 do.
I'm still confused... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Verne

[Verne_Frantz]

I appreciate everyone's help a lot on this. Sam gave me the number of a gentleman who knows his slicks very well and it seems to be pinned down to '69 or '70. Plus they also appear in a '71 catalog. I sent an email to M&H directly a long time ago and have no response yet.
Anyway, I don't think they'll do for the earlier car I had in mind. They'd still look cool, but they wouldn't be "period".

Thanks again guys! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Verne