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John
09-27-2006, 02:47 AM
I am having the original "BE" rear completely rebuilt...
....should I powder coat the housing...or prime and paint the housing? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
...I want to make sure the numbers and dates are still visible.
..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

k92
09-27-2006, 02:55 AM
I primered mine then painted it and am happy with the results. Here is a shot of the numbers after the priming, they are still easily seen. I dont have a closeup of the numbers after painting, but they are still easily seen.

k92
09-27-2006, 02:57 AM
Here are some shots of the rearend in general to show the shade of black that I got by spraying.

k92
09-27-2006, 02:58 AM
last one

JoeG
09-27-2006, 03:29 AM
paint it............

Alss
09-27-2006, 04:20 AM
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paint it............

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I second that

DarrenX33
09-27-2006, 04:27 AM
I powder coated my stuff for the Z. Turned out great but I would probably paint next time.

I 3rd it!

wheelhop
09-27-2006, 05:57 AM
Powdercoating would probably cover up the numbers.
I vote for paint.
I 4th it, I guess !

Xplantdad
09-27-2006, 06:02 AM
Wouldn't the powder coating be more durable? I've seen some really nicely restored cars at Pavillions (the 2 door post bronze 442 comes to mind) that were powder coated. It looked great! Maybe not correct, but great!

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Postsedan
09-27-2006, 06:13 AM
Bruce,

It`s all about preferrence and what the customer wants. If you have a really good powder coater the numbers will remain.

My opinion is based on the car. A high caliber car...use the correct paint. A specialty car, show car, etc...use powder coat.

Dan.

Xplantdad
09-27-2006, 06:59 AM
Thanks Dan...you da man. Hmmm...is there some powder coating in my future? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

MosportGreen66
09-27-2006, 08:05 AM
here is powder coating...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/mosportgreen66/P1010028-1.jpg

12 bolt going into pro-charged '72 Chevelle SS

DaJudge
09-27-2006, 04:14 PM
I would powder coat, it is more durable and you can wipe it down with solvents if need be without harm. The parts I have had done, after the oven or heat stage the powder coating actually got into the part numbers and they were easier to see and read. The down side is if the part is heavily pitted that will show up in more detail as well.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

rsatz28
09-27-2006, 04:25 PM
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It`s all about preferrence and what the customer wants. If you have a really good powder coater the numbers will remain.


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I agree and will post pics of my differntial to show the numbers.

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My opinion is based on the car. A high caliber car...use the correct paint. A specialty car, show car, etc...use powder coat.
Dan.

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Dan, I'm curious. Why does it matter if you can get the exact color match and % gloss? Isn't powder coating better long term?

JoeG
09-27-2006, 08:26 PM
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Bruce,

It`s all about preferrence and what the customer wants. If you have a really good powder coater the numbers will remain.

My opinion is based on the car. A high caliber car...use the correct paint. A specialty car, show car, etc...use powder coat.

Dan.

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What he said...........

Pretty slick rear Dan(MosportGreen66)--Is that off one of your cars.

HEMIBEE
09-27-2006, 09:08 PM
In the past, I have always used the powder coat for its duribuility esp: on inner fenders subframes and rearends, andf if the shade isnt what i am looking for i will paint over it to get what i want, it wont fill the numbers from what i have seen, good luck

Bill Rose
09-27-2006, 11:31 PM
To really do it right, any pitting in the tubes, spring perches, shock brackets, etc, should be filled with plastic, so you don't get that painted rust pit look. If you fill the pitting, it has to be painted, cause the filler can't be powder coated.

Postsedan
09-28-2006, 03:54 AM
Hi Rob,

Again my opinion is that most of the high end collectors with the high end cars want their cars to be restored as close as possible the way they rolled off the assembly line...some think that powder coating may bring the value of there cars down. If I owned a Super Car and restored it using powder coated parts....I think I would be able to sleep good at night. But on the other hand if I were to sell this Super Car for a significantly lower $ value due to my parts being PC vs. paint... I would be upset.

We have had great success with our powder coated parts and service.

Once you get the powder coater to achieve the correct color match and gloss....powder coating is a beautiful product.

I am getting ready to restore a frame of mine that will have lots of powdercoated parts...I`ll be sure to post pics for everyone to see.

Rob...look forward to seeing you at Lombard next season.

Dan.

1969L78Nova
09-28-2006, 04:07 AM
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To really do it right, any pitting in the tubes, spring perches, shock brackets, etc, should be filled with plastic, so you don't get that painted rust pit look. If you fill the pitting, it has to be painted, cause the filler can't be powder coated.

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The powder coater I used recently would not coat any of the parts I had unless ALL the paint had been stripped off the parts I wanted done. I had them chemically stripped before took them back to him. This contradicts what happened in your case. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Martin

Bill Rose
09-28-2006, 04:41 AM
Martin, Your not understanding what I said. If you want to fill the rust pitting with filler, It can't be powder coated because the metal must be striped clean to accept the powder. If you want that smooth surface, by filling with body filler, it has to be painted. If you go to any quality restoration shop, you will see this is how it's done.

1969L78Nova
09-28-2006, 04:45 AM
Bill,

DOH !

Martin

RamAirDave
09-28-2006, 08:25 AM
Myself, Ive never been impressed with PC. Actually, I really dislike it. Its thick (looks thick, also), and is not as durable as many think.

Good product paint, that is correctly prepped/applied, will be plenty durable and will hold up to chemicals without any issues.

Mr70
09-28-2006, 02:33 PM
I agree.
PC looks like cake frosting to me.

69 Code51 Z
09-28-2006, 02:35 PM
When I did my 69Z I PC everything I could. I've shown the car a few times and never question regarding PC/paint. You can work with the PC shop to get the right color and % of gloss. I will say I did lose the #'s on the rear end though. There are a few issues with fit that you have to watch because PC is thicker, I PC the rear drums and had a heck of a time getting them off. As far as fixing pitting on parts that are PC'd - the shop I work with will not PC over any type of filler. You can PC the part and sand it smooth and re PC ( you are paying to re PC ) or fill with weld. Carl

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
09-28-2006, 04:33 PM
If you are seriously resto'ing a supercar, don't PC it - it looks like shelac, and can be spotted a mile away.

Dusk Blue Z
09-28-2006, 04:46 PM
Devcon makes a metallic 2 part epoxy that will take the heat during the bake cycle and still attract powder during the coat process. You can use this to fill any low spots or pitting. I think the operator has much to do with the way the parts look when done, thicker is not always better. I had some pieces done that you can still easily see the part numbers.

MosportGreen66
09-28-2006, 06:02 PM
Powder coating is a great tool for race cars or show cars but I would not use it on the number matching/original restoration. It does not look as natural as paint does and I would imagine that point deductions would be made since it is not a typical factory product. The reason why I posted a picture of my friend's rear (no jokes guys http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif) was to try to convey that its not a natural-paint like finish. I would have a difficult time powder coating any part on an original car. Here is another picture.

-Dan

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/mosportgreen66/P1010029.jpg

John
09-29-2006, 01:25 AM
...Thanks guys....that's what I wanted to here ...the pro's and con's of each.....
...I will Paint the rear..."That's how it was done at the factory!"
....If it was a "streetrod"...that would be different.
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k92
09-29-2006, 02:13 AM
Also, remember that the factory did not paint them all that well a lot of times as the paint was usually thin in many areas. However, I could never bring myself to duplicate that and will take the grief for a nicely covered rear end.