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COPO CARTEL
09-29-2006, 05:58 PM
OK this is funny my son goes to preschool and over a period of time learns the pledge of allegiance. While he was out with my wife the other night out of the blue he says the pledge of allegiance as a reward she takes him to buy a battery operated train and track. Here's the funny part the box says made in China. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

SS427
09-29-2006, 06:19 PM
Great kid!

I used to shop Menards. Many years ago around the 4th of July I was shopping there when they were promoting the "made in Taiwan" junk. I was in the checkout ready to pay when I noticed the end cap full of flags. Being 4th of July I got that patriotic feeling again and since mine was old and tattered I decided to purchase a new one. The clerk started to ring me out when I noticed the flag's wrapper said, "made in Taiwann. I was so disgusted with the fact that I could not even purchase a US flag made in the US that I promptly left all my purchases on the counter and walked out. I did not return for over 10 years over that simple thing but it really pi$$ed me off! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif
Rick

SS427
09-29-2006, 06:24 PM
Another wake up call was when my new neighbors moved in next door. They are from the UK. One day I noticed him flying his native flag and he walks over to ask if I minded. I stated absolutely not. He then tells me that he was really shocked. In the UK, he said that you must obtain permission to fly a flag on your house, here in America it is your right to fly the flag. He laughed and said besides me, there were no other American flags being flown on my block even though it is free to do so whereas in the UK, there are many flags flying yet those people have to obtain permission to do so. Makes you wonder. Things were very patriotic after 911 but people have become complaicent again. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
Rick

1970Bluel78
09-29-2006, 07:15 PM
Lots of Flags in my neighborhood here in upstate NY. I wonder how many here drive imported cars ...hhmmm....

427TJ
09-29-2006, 08:31 PM
Flew my flag on the 9-11 anniversary (only one in my neighborhood to do so) and I drive a foreign car, as does my wife. Rather than ask who drives a foreign car, why not ask who has worn a military uniform.

As for American complacency, we were urged in the days after 9-11 to keep shopping. Remember the TV commercials: "America is open for business." Complacency, a form of happiness and satisfaction (and ignorance), is the normal and desired state of the population. If the Iraqi population was complacent there wouldn't be an insurgency. Kind of makes you wish they were complacent.

There I go typing again!

Donutblue
09-29-2006, 09:07 PM
Local radio station WHUD here in the Hudson Valley every morning at 7:30AM has a local elementary school class on the Air giving the Pledge of Allegiance. It's really a breath of fresh air to hear the enthusisam of all the kids. Whats even better is I haven't heard any of the liberal cry babies bashing the idea. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

Kim_Howie
09-29-2006, 10:58 PM
www.cvsflags.com (http://www.cvsflags.com) american made flags prices from 7.95 to 24.95 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif P.S. I have NEVER been in a wallmart!!!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

ORIGLS6
09-29-2006, 11:10 PM
Annin & Co. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif
Flagmakers to the world since 1847
105 Eisenhower Pkwy.
Roseland, NJ 07068

www.annin.com (http://www.annin.com)

Verne_Frantz
09-29-2006, 11:31 PM
Thanks for posting that link Dennis http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif I didn't even know they were there.
This is quite an impressive story http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

America's Flag Maker

by Warren D. Jorgensen

From a mountain on Iwo Jima to the surface of the moon, from exotic ports of call to the North and South poles, from atop Mount Everest to the rubble of the World Trade Center, Americans and the world have seen, flown and saluted U.S. flags made by Annin & Co. for nearly 160 years.
The world's largest and oldest flag company, Annin & Co. and its 500 employees produce literally miles of stripes and a multitude of stars that go into 15 million U.S. flags a year. All are made in the U.S.A.—at manufacturing plants in Verona, N.J. (pop. 13,533), South Boston, Va. (pop, 8,491), and Coshocton, Ohio (pop. 11,682).

"Patriotism demands that an American flag has to be made in America,” says Carter Beard, who with his cousin, Randy, represent the sixth generation to help run the business, based in Roseland, N.J. (pop. 5,298). "We hire the best workers, train them and give them the best machines, and from that we get the highest quality flag.”

The company's roots go back to 1820, when Alexander Annin opened a small flag-making shop on the New York City waterfront, where ships bound for the four corners of the world did so under Annin-made flags. Annin's sons, Edward and Benjamin, followed in their father's footsteps and in 1847 founded Annin & Co., moving to a large full-service factory on New York's Fifth Avenue. The company enjoyed success from the start, especially with its American flags.

Woven into American history

In many ways, the company's story is interwoven with the story of America itself.

In 1849, Annin-made American flags were flown at the inauguration of President Zachary Taylor, starting an inaugural tradition that has continued through the inauguration of President George W. Bush.

"We made the flag that draped Abraham Lincoln's coffin (in 1865), something we are especially proud of,” Beard says.

By the close of the 19th century, regard for the Annins' product had spread, and the company's flags were hoisted at foreign expositions, world's fairs and at the opening of the Brooklyn Bridge in 1883.

Exploration and involvement in world affairs consumed America during the 20th century, and Annin was there. The company's flags were planted as symbols of success during Commander Robert E. Peary's expedition to the North Pole in 1909, Admiral Richard E. Byrd's expedition to the South Pole in 1930 and the National Geographic expedition to Mount Everest in 1963. It was an Annin-made flag that Marines raised atop Mount Suribachi on Iwo Jima in 1945, memorialized in a classic Associated Press photograph.

On July 20, 1969, Neil Armstrong and "Buzz” Aldrin stepped out from the Lunar Module and planted an Annin-made U.S. flag on the moon's surface, where it remains today. "We were a supplier to NASA . . . We officially submitted flags to NASA for the moon missions, and ours was picked,” says Beard, who was age 4 at the time.

The world's largest American flag—104 feet by 235 feet—was made by Annin for the J.L. Hudson Co. in Detroit in 1949 and was retired in 1976 to the Smithsonian Institution. It was Annin artist Newt Heisley who designed the POW/MIA flag, which was never copyrighted because the company decided the patriotic symbol belonged to all Americans.

Perhaps the nation's most recent memory of an Annin-made flag came after the events of Sept. 11, 2001, when firemen raced to a nearby marina and grabbed a ship's American flag to raise over the rubble of the World Trade Center. The photographed moment became the iconic image of that tragic day. "Everyone here was extremely proud that it was an Annin flag,” says Beard, his voice mixed with pride and regret. "It was an emotional sight to see that flag being raised.”

Salvatore
09-29-2006, 11:59 PM
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www.cvsflags.com (http://www.cvsflags.com) american made flags prices from 7.95 to 24.95 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif P.S. I have NEVER been in a wallmart!!!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[/ QUOTE ] I bet you haven't been in a WalMart! There is not even a WALMART around where you live! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

ORIGLS6
09-30-2006, 12:01 AM
I saw their story on "Made in America" with George Ratzenberger, (aka Cliff Claven). Then I noticed that the flags we fly here at work all come from Annin.

Pretty cool Company History.

I have about 25 years of service with the Boy Scouts. We were the group of choice for many of the institutions in our area to donate their retired flags. Every year or so we would perform the flag retirement ceremony at one of our Council gatherings. I've been inactive with the Scouts for a few years now but still seem to be the repository for our company. That's OK though. I do the ceremony alone when I get a fair amount of 'Old Soldiers'. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

ORIGLS6
09-30-2006, 12:38 AM
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif Oops, make that John Ratzenberger.

Don't wanna start somethin' between Cliff & Normy! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

Verne_Frantz
09-30-2006, 01:00 AM
Knowing this bunch of guys, I probably shouldn't dare mention this, but in Feb. 1960 when I was 10 and a Cub Scout, I was selected to represent the nations Cub Scouts during National Boy Scout week on the Ed Sullivan show in NYC. There was a Boy Scout and an Explorer there along side me. Ed brought us out under the lights, said some nice things and "we" recited the Boy Scout Oath. Of course, just being a Cub, I didn't know it OR know I was supposed to recite it, so I just stood there nervously in front of the cameras with my hand raised in the Cub Scout salute and kept my mouth shut.
There was a terrible snow storm that evening and the tunnel into the city was closed. My parents were told at the toll booth that they had to turn around but my Mother told them in no uncertain terms that HER son has to be on the Ed Sullivan show that night and could not be denied access to the city. They had Pop park the car there (our '58 Pontiac Star Chief) and we all got in a police car and were taken directly to the studio with lights flashing. That was my one and only ride in the back of a police car!
What a trip!

Verne http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

ORIGLS6
09-30-2006, 01:14 AM
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427TJ
09-30-2006, 01:41 AM
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I second that! Great story.

My son's first Cub Scout meeting is tonight. He wore his new cap to school and he looked just like Beaver Cleaver.

Xplantdad
09-30-2006, 01:54 AM
Cool stuff Verne...

So...you were in a realllly big snow .... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif


and on a reallly big show... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

JoeG
09-30-2006, 02:26 AM
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Knowing this bunch of guys, I probably shouldn't dare mention this.............

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif story Verne........And I'll behave...

Belair62
09-30-2006, 07:22 AM
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Knowing this bunch of guys, I probably shouldn't dare mention this.............

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif story Verne........And I'll behave...

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OK but the crack about being the only time in the back of a squad car somehow doesn't quite ring true...

ORIGLS6
10-01-2006, 01:27 AM
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif I wanted to say that too, but that old "Glass Houses" thing keeps poppin' up.! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Verne_Frantz
10-01-2006, 02:22 AM
Well............actually.................there was the time.................oh never mind.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

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JoeG
10-01-2006, 02:27 AM
Bubba and Big Jim send their regards........

Kim_Howie
10-01-2006, 02:38 AM
I was in Boy Scouts. Had a great time Congrates. Verne http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

Verne_Frantz
10-01-2006, 02:51 AM
Bruce,
You mean a really big shuuue!
I'm trying to remember who else was on that I got to meet. Definitely Jorgie Jessel, Pete Fountain, Leana Horne (she was really young then), maybe Al Hirt and some guy spinning plates on tall sticks. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Oh, and maybe Topo Gigio..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

After taping, all the stars got together on stage while the audience was still there (kind of like Saturday Night Live, but no one at home one saw it). We were out there too and I remember Jorgie Jessel giving me a big hug, like a grandfather, and we exchanged a few words. He impressed me as a geniune kind man. It was an experience that deserves the http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

Verne

Xplantdad
10-01-2006, 06:02 AM
Hey Verne, what about the story you told me on the way back from the airport on the way to SCR9...where you were runnin' from the police and.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Verne_Frantz
10-01-2006, 06:57 AM
That never happened and you know it!

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Xplantdad
10-01-2006, 07:33 AM
You're right...I was kidding! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif