Question for the "regular" folk :)

[Zedder]

For those of you who are at the stage of life where buying your dream home and paying for your kid's education are still facing you, do you ever think about getting out of the rare stuff and just buying a nice "driver" crate motored-type cruise night car? With prices for the rare stuff where they are, I'm struggling more and more with justifying a "car fund" that's worth 50% of the value of my home when we still have a number of financial issues to face before we are on "easy street" http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I'd be interested in hearing the opinions of others at my stage of life...

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

You can live in your car, but you can't drive your house. How's that?

[drdave69]

Mark, I am attempting to do the same thing as I type this. That is the exact reason my Z/28 is for sale. Priorities change.

[TimG]

Zedder, I hear you. I recently bought a nicely restored '65 Corvette coupe from the original owner. I bought the car to drive with the original owners blessing and support, I didn't pay a heck of a lot for the car (even though it is BG, Dontov and Top Flight) and it will never be in the Special Collection or anything like that.
Mileage is not an issue since it was restored with over 100,000 miles on the odometer. It's just a plain old Corvette that has radial tires and is an absolute blast to drive. The other low mile, original paint Corvettes that have been sold or are still in the garage just don't provide the fun this car does, and one of them is worth 10 times what I paid for the '65.
The most fun cars I've had are the ones that have been the cheapest to buy or the rattiest to look at.
Don't know if anyone was left at Mecum late Sunday afternoon, but a '72 very original and kind of tattered Corvette went though with no reserve and sold for $9,250.
I thought that if the owner was a first time buyer, he was probably going to have fun for not much money with that car. I kind of wish I had been the guy that got it. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Don_Lightfoot]

Well Mark, I guess I would consider myself one of the "regular folk".

The same scenario has been on my mind as well, although my circumstances are a little different. My daughter and son have long since graduated from University, they are now 32 and 28 respectively. I have a very nice home that will be paid in a couple of years.

My situation is relative to my age and the ability to really keep a quality car in top notch shape. Also, retirement is probably about five years away and finances will be required for that. I do not have a lift in my garage and it's getting more difficult to crawl under the car on jack stands to do all the regular cleaning and detailing that I think is required to maintain the quality (I do drive mine a little). I enjoy performing this regular maintenance, but the old bones tell me funny stories.

Anyway, I know the time will come someday to say "time to move on with other facets of life". Purchasing a much less valued classic would obviously be considered. Who knows when that day will come. All about priorities Mark and we all have different ones.

[DarrenX33]

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Amen Tim!

[PeteLeathersac]

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The most fun cars I've had are the ones that have been the cheapest to buy or the rattiest to look at.

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The same rule applies for women sometimes too? .
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~ Pete

[rat tuned]

i occasionally race with a 80+ yo guy who has 2 matching numbers vettes.(427-435). he gives the vette guys fits. you can't believe the vette stuff he has. here the race car.

http://www.chevelles.com/showroom/showphoto.php/photo/778/cat/500/perpage/15/sort/2/ppuser/1846

he drives allaround the local towns. he refuses to sell to anyone. mike

[Zedder]

Thanks for the thoughtful responses guys (not including you Marlin http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif ). I guess my struggle is that as much as I want to drive my '67 Z like it is an everyday driver, it's just becoming too rare to do that without freaking out everytime the kids are in the garage beside it or someone leans up against it at a cruise night. The car is worth $75K - $80K as is and with another $50K in it for the resto, I just know that I won't want my 6 year old washing a car that is worth that much money and that's just not right. We are lucky that our home is paid for and we have no debt...I'm just not comfortable with the values that our cars have reached in the last two or three years. Don't get me wrong, financially I am happy with the increase in value, I just have a mental block that prevents me from feeling comfortable driving anything that is more than about US$60K. Decisions, decisions http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[Dave Rifkin]

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i occasionally race with a 80+ yo guy who has 2 matching numbers vettes.(427-435). he gives the vette guys fits. you can't believe the vette stuff he has. here the race car.

http://www.chevelles.com/showroom/showphoto.php/photo/778/cat/500/perpage/15/sort/2/ppuser/1846

he drives allaround the local towns. he refuses to sell to anyone. mike

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No offense but that Corvette is fugly! I know the guy enjoys the car and it's his to do whatever he wants with it but, man it looks like a hacked together car.
On the other hand, that Chevelle SS is awesome! I love everything about that car.

[olredalert]

Mark,,, I have sold several cars when they have appreciated to roughly the same value for the same reason. The 66 Vette we still have has probably stepped pretty well beyond that area, but neither my wife or I can bring ourselves to think about selling it as its literally part of our history together. We bought it the year we got married 28 years ago and it has stuck with us thru thick and thin. Now that I did the body off routine and it has been shown it rarely gets driven, but I still love looking at it. I think TimG probably remembers it and can tell you that its fairly memorable. I surely do understand what your thoughts are though as I have them periodically as well........Bill S

[scuncio]

I have mixed thoughts on this one...I am probably younger than most of the guys on this site but I've thought a lot lately about unloading some of my higher dollar stuff and buying a Superformance Cobra...something I can have more fun with. I must have put like 200 miles tops on all the cars combined this summer.

[rat tuned]

1996z15,
i hear ya on the ugliness factor. he takes pride in the ugliness. the car is actually pretty well built. 4 speed and 3.08 gears with mickey thompson L-60 tires runs a best of 11.30@130mph. he used to drive the car to vermont and new hampshire and run hill climb events also. he has another 67 blue car, 4-speed, 427,L-88 aluminum heads and cam. car is complete but needs a real good cleaning. he gives the corvette guys fits. thanx for the propd on the chevelle. mike

[tom406]

That totally resonates with me. With three kids under the age of 8, I can't build a coccoon safe enough for a concourse car, and I don't want to be one of those guys whose kids think he loves his car more than them because they're not allowed to go near it and Daddy freaks out when they touch it. We're focusing the monetary equivalent of a top shelf rare car on landscaping the yard this year, but my family can enjoy that, and the property needs it to bring the yard in line with the house. My daughter loves pretending to "drive" my cars, so I throw her diaper clad butt into the nearest $10 or 15K ride and let her have at it.

That's the sad part of the rising values, just like anyone who had a nice home in a "boomtown". Money changes things, for better or for worse.

[BillD]

Mark, Couple of points. The only reason some of us "regular folk" have cars is that we have owned them for a long time. If I had to go out and pay real money today for a car it would be an impossibility I wouldn't do it. I would not lay down 75,000-150,000 to buy a car and run the risk that the car could fall in value by a significant amount. The cars I own now have gone up in value by a significant amount but if they fall in value I guess it is no big deal as I didn't lay out much money for them. As to kids, just wait until it is time for them to go to college. Four years of college today $160000-200000 per kid, and now my kids are off to professional schools for another 3-4 years on top of that. I know my limitations.

[Eddie M.]

yeah till you guys made me race it at scr9 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[Xplantdad]

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Eddie...I think it's cool that you drive your car...and have fun with it!

You can't put a value on that big smile on your face and the feeling that you get while driving...and the looks that you get from the people who know what you're driving! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[kwhizz]

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yeah till you guys made me race it at scr9 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

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[kwhizz]

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yeah till you guys made me race it at scr9 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

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Eddie..........Just think.......If you would have kept your car in the Garage.........you wouldn't have met Helen or Nancy............ http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif


Ken http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/youguysrock.gif

[kwhizz]

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yeah till you guys made me race it at scr9 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

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So.....What's your "Point"..........LOL http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gifKen http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Now.....Bring the Car to VetteFest

[Xplantdad]

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yeah till you guys made me race it at scr9 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

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So.....What's your "Point"..........LOL http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gifKen http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Now.....Bring the Car to VetteFest

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And like it! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Eddie M.]

I agree with ya Bruce http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Eddie M.]

I know ken very well worth the trip.... lots of great people sure am looking forward to next year too http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Zedder]

Thanks again guys...it feels good to know that there are others out there with the same feelings.

Bill, I can understand you not wanting to get rid of a car that has been such a big part of your life. I'd keep that one as long as possible also.

BillD, trust me, I already know about the cost of school and my kids are just 4 and 6...grade one cost us $16,000 this year!

Well, I had a talk with my 6 year old to get his opinion (he claimed the Camaro after I sold Kenny my Corvette), and he said "we" could sell the '67 Z if "we" found another Camaro or Chevelle first, but it had to be the same color (Black)...or red... or blue http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif (it's funny how kids think, but you have to give him credit for wanting to see the replacement first http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif)

[SuperNovaSS]

I can understand where you are coming from. Although I am a bit younger, I have realized it is sometimes stressful to drive around a restored car with considerable value. Whenever I get stressed out I think that there are still survivor cars out there that had the piss beaten out of them when new. When they were a few pears old I am sure there were plenty of folks who let their kids watch the car etc. and they still survived. If that mindset does not help let me offer another. The hobbies the majority of the world are invloved in are quite expensive. This hobby, albeit not cheap, offers an out at the end; at least a better chance of recovery than most hobbies. So, there is a question you must ask yourself: "Is my hobby collecting antiques, stashing pieces of American history for no others to see, or giving others a chance to fall in love with the cars you did while enjoying them yourself. So, in answer to your question, keep the 67 Z you searched for for so long. Treat it how ever you like but make sure to let your son wash it so he can have the oppertunity to fall in love as you once did. But again, I am young and nieve. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif.


Jason

[Xplantdad]

Good words Jason!

Mark, when these cars were new...they were driven in the rain snow and wind. They survived that (well, some of them did http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif)

If it stresses you too much to drive your 67Z, then either keep it and don't drive it...or sell it and get something that you and your son can work on together...and be able to drive when you are done.

I know that you'll make the right decision, but just remember...in the long run they are just cars. The time that you'll spend with your kids working together on the car...or anything else for that matter...is invaluable! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Zedder]

I agree Jason...good advice.

Yep Bruce, that's what this is all about for me these days and that's why I think I'm kidding myself thinking that I'll feel comfortable leaving the Z in a parking lot while we go grab an ice cream or some fries down at the beach. With a $50K or $60K car, I'd still be looking back every few minutes to make sure it's there, but I could live with some ice cream on the seats or some finger prints on the paint http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif I have never been emotionally attached to any car and can't see myself becoming that way now. As my wife says, "there is always another car". I'm sure there will be more Z's in my future, but maybe it's time to take a break from the high dollar stuff for a while and just enjoy driving for a change...

[Xplantdad]

I know that I'm enjoying it...there's nothing better than going with the family on a cruise and having someone drive up and say, "Nice car...is that a '67?" and my daughter saying, "No sir, it's a '66!."

Half the time...the wife is relegated to the back seat... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[kwhizz]

Doe's Holly have her own key's yet??????????.........Maybe you need some backseat "Time"!!!!...............LOL

Ken http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

We get it!!!!!!!!! and still drive them

[Xplantdad]

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[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

These hypotheticals crack me up http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif For gosh sakes, it's just a stinkin car - if it gets scratched or dented, fix it! Just drive what you have and enjoy it. Who wants to be the 80 year old guy who sits around and brags how he owned a rare car but never drove it because it was too 'valuable'. Oh please......

[kwhizz]

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These hypotheticals crack me up http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif For gosh sakes, it's just a stinkin car - if it gets scratched or dented, fix it! Just drive what you have and enjoy it. Who wants to be the 80 year old guy who sits around and brags how he owned a rare car but never drove it because it was too 'valuable'. Oh please......

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[Steve Shauger]

Mark the thought you have creeps into my mind once in a while, but ultimately these cars were made to be driven. Worst case scenario is that I have insurance to rely on, that is at a level where I can replace the car. Remember you own the car it doesn't own you. For instance this weekend I am taking my cars to a local show 15 miles away. My son will be helping me and we will have a blast. Sharing these cars with fellow enthusiasts is what it's all about. A couple of weeks ago I went to a show and got great satisfaction educating a large group of cub scouts on the history of the Yenko Camaro. A couple of scouts stayed until the end and a group of us took them for a short ride. That was priceless for me, and to me that what this hobby is about.

If the cars just mean dollars and cents to you, it time to sell.

[Zedder]

Steve, I agree and am glad to hear that you are enjoying your car the way you like to by showing it. Given that I have been into Camaros, Chevelles and Corvettes since my first car in 1978...I doubt that one would say that they are just "dollars and cents" to me. In fact, it is just the opposite for me. I don't get off showing a car and want to get back to what I used to do with these cars...drive them everywhere! We all have different comfort levels and I'm glad to hear that you are comfortable driving your Yenko 15 miles to a local show. However, I want to drive 100 miles in an afternoon all over the area with my wife and kids and park the car in a lot and feel OK to walk away. I just can't do that with $150,000 Z, so I think it's time for me to find a nice driver for the time being and when the kids are older or prices have dropped or I win the lotto, then I'll get into another Z. Neither of us is right or wrong here, it's just a difference of opinion in how we enjoy our cars.

[Steve Shauger]

First, I drive most of my cars weekly to various cruise nights. During the summer the cruise nights are located at various beaches on the island, and they have food, drinks and a band. There are lots of interesting cars and people.

What I meant by dollars and cents is try not to let that discourage you from enjoying them. To me if you look at just the value then they are merely investments, and to me aren't worth owning. We have both been around these car for a long time and I know you have enjoyed them as I have.

Regarding the local shows, I do not get them judged, but really enjoy sharing them, especially with new enthusiast to the hobby. This weekend the show is on a farm and my detail on Saturday is cleaning up the horse manure in the field for the Sunday show.

On the 29th our club will be cruising to various wineries out east and to Greenport an old fishing village. I should put on at least 125 miles that day. I will limit my wine tasting a bit though.

Keep your 67 Z and restore it with the intention of using and enjoying it, rather than a museum piece. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[DarrenX33]

I think Mark's (and Mark correct me if I am wrong) point is that he wants something he can take to the grocery store, movie or the mall. Park it and not worry about it. There is a fine line here somewhere... Anyone willing to do any of the above with their Yenkos? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif Taking your car to a cruise night, out for a quick ride to get ice cream or taking to the drags is kinda different as you pretty much have your eye on it all the time. Heck I get made when I get a parking lot door ding in my Impreza...

[sYc]

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Mark the thought you have creeps into my mind once in a while, but ultimately these cars were made to be driven. Worst case scenario is that I have insurance to rely on, that is at a level where I can replace the car. Remember you own the car it doesn't own you. For instance this weekend I am taking my cars to a local show 15 miles away. My son will be helping me and we will have a blast. Sharing these cars with fellow enthusiasts is what it's all about. A couple of weeks ago I went to a show and got great satisfaction educating a large group of cub scouts on the history of the Yenko Camaro. A couple of scouts stayed until the end and a group of us took them for a short ride. That was priceless for me, and to me that what this hobby is about.

If the cars just mean dollars and cents to you, it time to sell.

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[Zedder]

Thanks Darren...I think you understand what I am concerned about. Again, if I was at a different stage of life financially, then I probably wouldn't be having these thoughts, but to many of us the prices have just gotten so crazy that we have to take a hard look at priorities. Steve, you are obviously at a point where you can enjoy your cars and not worry about these things and I think that's great! One day, I hope to be there too, however it's just not where I am right now. I'd prefer to buy a nice driver Camaro or Chevelle and spend some money on a more appropriate house. Being out of work for the past year or so has really made me look at things a little diferently, so maybe that's another reason why I am having a change of heart. When I look back over the past 10 years at what cars I had the most fun with, it was my '72 Corvette base model vert. My wife and I took that car anywhere we wanted, parked it on the street, went shopping in it etc. and had a blast. It's time for me to get back to that again after chasing the rare stuff for the past 7 or 8 years. I'm sure I'll still buy and sell a rare car or two a year, as I really love the hunt, but I won't think about keeping one for the time being. Different strokes for different folks, that's all! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

It's not complicated, you guys make it sound like a physics equation... geez! If you're scared of the value, and you don't have insurance, then sell it.

Should I wipe my asss sitting down or standing up, with my left or right hand, from the front or the back? I just can't make up my mind, and at this stage of my life I'm worried about carpal tunnel.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Go play in the snow http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[Mr70]

We should have an accountants point of view on this topic. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Zedder]

Marlin, how many miles did you put on your car this summer?

[DarrenX33]

Marlin let me ask you. If you and the wife went to a movie on a teenage crowded Friday or Saturday night. Would you ever consider driving the Deuce and be ok with it being in the parking lot for 2 hours? Just curious. Respek. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I don't know, why does it matter? When was the last time you did this?

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/aacorp/SCR7-0296.jpg

You guys are killing me here, ouch, I just ran head first into the wall - again....

[Zedder]

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'nuff said http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Allen]

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It's not complicated, you guys make it sound like a physics equation... geez! If you're scared of the value, and you don't have insurance, then sell it.

Should I wipe my asss sitting down or standing up, with my left or right hand, from the front or the back? I just can't make up my mind, and at this stage of my life I'm worried about carpal tunnel.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Go play in the snow http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

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An accountant with a sense of humor..... now THAT's funny, right there....... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

Even an engineer like me can appreciate that one. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Steve Shauger]

You find me a drive-in movie and I'll bet most of us would go. Remember these car do bring back memories of our youth and who knows what would happen in that back seat. Who know if I could get out of the back seat afterwards. This is just hypothetical of course.

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[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

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I don't know...

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'nuff said http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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You actually wanted a number? I figured it was another hypothetical.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I'll check my speedo tonight for ya, (yea, the one with the maple leaf on the butt).

[sYc]

Are we talking dailey drivers, AKA going to the mall, etc, or occasional use, such as local cruise-ins, racing etc?

Our cars are not used as dailey drivers, and I doubt other owners do either, but we do enjoy them, including drag racing, an occasional drive to a local car show and even a Sunday afternnon spin around the country side. That is why I have them, to enjoy the way we did back in the day.

[Zedder]

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I don't know...

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'nuff said http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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You actually wanted a number? I figured it was another hypothetical.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I'll check my speedo tonight for ya, (yea, the one with the maple leaf on the butt).

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I just figured since you are an accountant, you could multiply the number of passes you made times 1/4 mile and figure it out http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif No need to check your speedo, but you might want to check your odometer http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[DarrenX33]

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[sYc]

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You find me a drive-in movie and I'll bet most of us would go. Remember these car do bring back memories of our youth and who knows what would happen in that back seat. Who know if I could get out of the back seat afterwards. This is just hypothetical of course.

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I remeber SCR1, where there were supercars cruising up and down the 4, maybe 6 lane street along side the host hotel. Several of us even drove the 30 or so minutes to the track and back.

And how about SCR5, where many of the show's attendees drove their supercars to a Chevy dealership several miles away, at times dodging the locals.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

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Marlin let me ask you. If you and the wife went to a movie on a teenage crowded Friday or Saturday night. Would you ever consider driving the Deuce and be ok with it being in the parking lot for 2 hours? Just curious. Respek. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

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Sorry Darren, didn't see this post! No, I would not leave my car at a movie theatre for 2 hours, but I regularly take it to church for two hours. It's not my daily cruiser, but it's driven http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[DarrenX33]

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[Zedder]

Tom, I think it's great that many of you drive your cars and I would love to attend an SCR someday and see them race etc. This post was not meant to be critical of anyone or how they enjoy the hobby. If someone gets there kicks looking at their cars, or polishing them then that's OK with me. I was just curious to see if there were other members out there who were feeling like I am and I was actually surprised to see how many are. Again, we all have different ways of enjoying the hobby and none of us should be critical of how someone else has fun.

[Zedder]

Thanks for all of the responses guys. Your comments have helped me out a great deal. I made an offer on a very nice driver today that should suit all of our needs for a family fun car just fine (if the offer is accepted of course http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif) and this will allow me to keep the Z and restore it slowly doing more of the work myself. If I need the money someday, I'm sure the car will always be worth what I have in it and I can think about selling it then. For now, I will continue to hunt down parts and hopefully get it in paint before next Summer. After the kudos that Hylton gave Richard English, I just may have to give him a call and see if he is interested since he's only an hour away http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[Belair62]

Darren...you can't take friggin anything to the store or mall .....people [censored] up a damn Hyundai just as bad as they [censored] up a Yenko...doesn't matter what you own...people will be happy to ruin it for you..take your neighbor with you so they can go in the store and buy milk.

[BARN FIND]

My son asked me if he could drive my 72 SS Camaro when he is 16 and gets his license (this is the first car I ever owned and still have it). I told him I don't see why not, I was only 16 when I first got it and it survived, seven years later I taught my little sister how to drive a stick shift in it. These cars were made for driving around aimlessly and using alot of gas in the process, so if he wants to drive it, I think that will put a smile on BOTH of our faces. I realize that it may only be worth at best 1/10 the value of the High dollar cars that are the original subject of this post, but I have had this car for over half my life and it is truly irreplaceable to me, yet I still believe that it was made to be driven and ENJOYED.

[TDW]

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Darren...you can't take friggin anything to the store or mall .....people [censored] up a damn Hyundai just as bad as they [censored] up a Yenko...doesn't matter what you own...people will be happy to ruin it for you..take your neighbor with you so they can go in the store and buy milk.

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You got that rite. I picked up a new 07 Silverado Sept 7th. Went to an all weekend car show. Parked the truck at the Motel parking lot way away from anything. Some jerk put a gouge in the front fender, from the door to the headlite.

[scuncio]

Ugh...the visual is killing me.

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You got that rite. I picked up a new 07 Silverado Sept 7th. Went to an all weekend car show. Parked the truck at the Motel parking lot way away from anything. Some jerk put a gouge in the front fender, from the door to the headlite.

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[Xplantdad]

I had some kids in out neighborhood throw a golf ball at high speed (they were in a moving car) into the right rear quarter panel of my truck on my birthday (We were out to dinner). Made a nice little circular dent... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif

Oh well...it already had about 20 scratches on it...not to mention the small dent right below the body side molding from when Lynn backed into it with the BMW wagon... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Chevy454]

Dad and I were heading home from Memphis Motorsports Park a week or so ago...we had our dually w/big trailer on, and I saw a small group of folks standing on a corner...as we rolled by one of them happened to raise what looked like a toy Ak47 and shoot a pellet of some kind into the side of our rig! I immediately hit the brakes, but then thought about it a second: 11pm, downtown Memphis, do I stop? Just one of those "chalk one up to experience" kinda things...

[Xplantdad]

Such wonderful people, eh Rob? What do you do....nothing...that's what you do. Aw heck...I must be getting old... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[DarrenX33]

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I hate you. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Mr. S

[copo69]

Rob, Pull out a real gun???? LOL

[Chevy454]

Yeah, thought about that, but I had a sneaky suspicion the 1/2 dozen or so *juveniles* were well armed themselves...afterall, it was close to midnight, in MEMPHIS!

[ORIGLS6]

Maybe you should have circled the block, pulled up along side them, handed them one of your business cards, and just smile. "We'll get you eventually." http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[plumL78]

I may not own a 200,000.00 car but I have a restored 69 rs Z with a crossram that gets driven all the time along with a 67 l78( in primer) that also gets beat up. No college worries as my daughter is almost 30 and I own my body shop so if it gets bent I'll repair it. These cars were built to be driven.

[PeteLeathersac]

You did the right thing Rob...not what they deserved but things could've gone bad and this thread been a whole lot different! .
How'd the day at the park go? .
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~ Pete

[Chevy454]

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Umm, I'll say "well" and leave it at that...http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[SmallHurst]

Like most of you guys, I try to regularly enjoy my ride. Prior to last fall, I did not own a trailer. I drove my junk everywhere. In my ownership, it had ridden on a trailer 3 times and had been driven to shows in Lansing, MI, Dallas, TX, Denver, Co and a butt load of local shows. In '04, I drove from KC to St. Louis for SCR7, raced all day and drove home. Later that month, I drove from KC to Stanton, MI (750 miles each way) drag raced for 2 days and then drove home. Then last fall (when I went to pick up the trailer) I drove from KC to Detroit, loaded up in the trailer, raced for 2 days, and due to my friend having serious carnage, was driven to Chicago. I have put 20,000 miles on my car in the 11 years that I have owned it. Do I park it in a parking lot, yes, but where I can keep an eye on it. Do I let my 2 1/2 year old son around it, heck yes! Several shots of him behind the wheel! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif He has a ball with the car seat set in the center of the back seat. Do I worry if it gets hit, yes. Do I think of selling it, HE## NO. I purchased it cheap (my wife always wants to know how much the car is worth and has the running joke about selling it) and I could make good money on the car. Of course, mine is not a stupid money car, but it could definately help in the college arena (yes I over 16 years to get ready for that). If I were in despirate straits, the car would go before anyone got hungry, but you had better believe that I would have exhausted many other ways of making money before getting rid of it. Look at it as a 401K you can enjoy on weekends.

I do not mean to sound harsh, but I feel that my car is a part of my family. I have fun in it and view it as my thearpy. As long as you own the title, what you do with that car is of your own choice. If finacial aide and a cool driver will make you happy, then by all means. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Oh yeah, my junk just set a new personal best on a grudge night 2 weeks ago. 13.26 @ 103.12 in Pure Stock form. And you will not be able to stop me from making SCR10! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

[resto4u]

Mark, if i would not have bought the cars i have now. I would never in a million years be able to by them today. I bought them at the right time, and need to be restored. They where bought at affordable prices then. I restore my own cars and keeps restoration prices down. Plus the stress relief and enjoyment of working on them. You just have to do what is right for you and your family, and nobody knows that better than you!! Roger

[Zedder]

Thanks guys. I have decided to keep the Z and do what I intended originally and restore it to a very high number 2 car. The motor is at the shop now as I have found most of the little stuff that I was missing.

The driver deal fell apart, so that will be on the back burner for the time being, which is probably a good idea as prices are definitely softening right now.

[mmcporter]

It's a tough decision. I always look at my daughters and wonder if they would be better off if I got out of the muscelcar thing, took the cash from the hobby and spent it on them. But then I think about all the great memories they will have of cleaning the cars with me, going to the shows, laying rubber on the road (don't tell my wife!) and fantasizing about other cars we see on Ebay or in Hemmings. I remember reading an article that said that people with hobbies tend to live longer and be happier. I'm hopeful that my girls enjoy the cars (they tell me they do) and that it's something they embrace themselves as they get older if they choose. I've learned to lighten up when the kids get close to the cars in the garage with their bikes or scooters. It's nice that we get a chance to meet nice like-minded people that share a common interest.

[kwhizz]

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It's a tough decision. I always look at my daughters and wonder if they would be better off if I got out of the muscelcar thing, took the cash from the hobby and spent it on them. But then I think about all the great memories they will have of cleaning the cars with me, going to the shows, laying rubber on the road (don't tell my wife!) and fantasizing about other cars we see on Ebay or in Hemmings. I remember reading an article that said that people with hobbies tend to live longer and be happier. I'm hopeful that my girls enjoy the cars (they tell me they do) and that it's something they embrace themselves as they get older if they choose. I've learned to lighten up when the kids get close to the cars in the garage with their bikes or scooters. It's nice that we get a chance to meet nice like-minded people that share a common interest.

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Balance it all out..........But!!!!..........Never lose the perspective as to what's really........Important!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Ken http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[njsteve]

What do you think your kids will remember and cherish in the coming years: that you spent some money on them? or that you had fun playing cars with them? (and using all their free labor).http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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[Charley Lillard]

NJsteve...I am most impressed at what you accomplish in that little space.

[njsteve]

It's all due to their Wonder-Twin Power super-strength!

[Xplantdad]

I agree with Charley...you do wonderful work...in not much space http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[MrsBillyBobcat]

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Steve,

That photo is SO ADORABLE! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

I agree with you...they will remember how much fun they had "playing cars" with dad! They will also cherish photos like that! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[Jeff H]

Mark, I agree with your thinking about driving a restored musclecar that is worth some decent money. But when you really think about it, it doesn't matter if it's a $15K 6 cyl coupe or a $300K COPO or Yenko. Most classic insurance says you're not supposed to let the car out of your site so taking in a movie or going into the mall is out of the question anyway. I've been driving my 70 L78 Camaro all summer and even though it isn't a show quality car it's fun to take to cruises and shows. As long as insurance covers what it's worth I'm driving it. And I really have no plans to do an all out restoration on this car, I have that JL8 car that is being done that way.

[ANDY M]

When you say that the pictures will be cherished, here's proof:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a146/ameyers215/group1.jpg
This was taken in Detroit in 1922, and my mom is the little one in the middle of the picture, sitting on the hood.
The love of cars is just in my blood, I guess.
They don't call Detroit the Motor City for nothing, but the family can see how important cars can be, even just plain transportation cars like this one. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
Capture the moment, it can be passed down. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Salvatore]

Now that is a GREAT picture. What a family!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[MrsBillyBobcat]

That is an AWESOME picture Andy! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif