Motion Nova????

[lowmile]

Here is a post I made several months ago and here are some pictures of what was just notice on the back of the block. Any thoughts." I just found a former owner of a project 375/396 4sp Nova, I've had about a year. He sold the car in the early 90's. He said the car spent some of it's early life somewhere around the north shore area of New Jersey. He bought it from a guy who had owned it since the mid 70's This guy had always claimed the car was a Baldwin Motion car. The block and heads are correct for the car and still retains the original pad stamp that matches the car. The front of both heads and the block have been stamped 3305. The block is still standard bore and complete. I know everyone in that part of the country claimed their car was a B/M., but this guy seems to be a straight shooter. He said the guy he had purchased the car from called a few years ago to try and buy it back. So does the 3305 stamped on the block mean anything to anyone? m "

[Charley Lillard]

Cool..It sounds like you need to spend some money with Joel.

[PeteLeathersac]

Very cool...love how it's hidden when installed! .
On other known cars of Joel's w/ paperwork, is there Work Order numbers in a similar range to the 3305? .
Are there pics of the car you can share yet, what's the hood situation...and is it a '69 or '70? .
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~ Pete

[lowmile]

Here's the car when I had it for sale on this site a few months ago. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/190008/page/0/fpart/all/vc/1

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Trim tag info?

[lowmile]

Trim tag

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Nice! Fathom blue, buckets, black trim, no exterior moldings - sounds like a sleeper http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Mr70]

Very cool.
Do you know if it was sold brand new from Baldwin Chevrolet too?

[lowmile]

Not yet.....

[WILMASBOYL78]

Just went over to the shop and pulled all the bell housings and checked for stampings. I can't believe it....they are all Motion cars!!


wilma http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[ORIGLS6]

Your insurance agent will love to hear that. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[kwhizz]

Even the Orange car???????? LOL

Ken http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[WILMASBOYL78]

It was a rare option, but Joel did perform some "Secret Motion" up grades on those 230 six bangers. The NOS is hidden inside the TCS switch..I only have the 250hp stage 2 setup..the stage 3 required special suspension and chassis modifications. Power shifting a 3 on the tree is a trip!!

wilma http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[kwhizz]

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It was a rare option, but Joel did perform some "Secret Motion" up grades on those 230 six bangers. The NOS is hidden inside the TCS switch..I only have the 250hp stage 2 setup..the stage 3 required special suspension and chassis modifications. Power shifting a 3 on the tree is a trip!!

wilma http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

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Ken http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[ORIGLS6]

[ QUOTE ]
It was a rare option, but Joel did perform some "Secret Motion" up grades on those 230 six bangers. The NOS is hidden inside the TCS switch..I only have the 250hp stage 2 setup..the stage 3 required special suspension and chassis modifications. Power shifting a 3 on the tree is a trip!!

wilma http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

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That's still One Damned Cool Car! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[WILMASBOYL78]

Yeh, baby!!!

wilma http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[hvychev]

Frank: "why do you call it Orange Cooler Wilma?"

Wilma: "Cause I can"

WTF..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Charley.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Why do you call yourself 'Wilma', Wilma? Where's Fred?

[WILMASBOYL78]

I gave that nick name to my mom(her real name is Fran)...because she reminds me of Wilma Flintstone. So, that makes me WILMASBOY.....

wilma http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Hmmmm..... you realize that you are calling yourself a 'momma's boy' don't you http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[Xplantdad]

Thanks Tom for the pic of the Orange cooler...just in time for Halloween! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[nuch_ss396]

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Hmmmm..... you realize that you are calling yourself a 'momma's boy' don't you http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

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Momma's boy or not, he has a butt load of cool cars..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[lowmile]

Here is a picture on the car on the trailer , just after I made it home. Notice the rearend cover. The intake is an after market unit that had the plenum divider cut out near the rear for a 3 barrel carb. When I found the guy who owned it in the 80's he said it weird traction bars on it at that time.

[lowmile]

This was stamped on both heads and the block. The car has been appart since the 80's. m

[lowmile]

Why's everybody so excited about a crappy old Orange Nova it doesn't even have the biggest straight six chevy offered??????

[Xplantdad]

You used to own it...right? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[MosportGreen66]

Maybe "3350" was a Motion Performance work order #?
Is this a common trend throughout all MP cars?

[lowmile]

It's amazing how little information there is on how to document Motion cars, other than Joel. Is the information there, and people are very guarded with it? m

[firstgenaddict]

If there were more cars from which to draw conclusions it may be easier to id them, but as it stands there were so few built (plus very few were alike, because they were built to customer spec) that it would be awfully hard to draw conclusions and apply them uniformly across the board.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif In conclusion there is just not enough data to make a statistical analysis.

[MikeA]

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If there were more cars from which to draw conclusions it may be easier to id them, but as it stands there were so few built (plus very few were alike, because they were built to customer spec) that it would be awfully hard to draw conclusions and apply them uniformly across the board.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif In conclusion there is just not enough data to make a statistical analysis.

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Please don't bring up statistical analysis http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Xplantdad]

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Please don't bring up statistical analysis http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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LOL... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[ORIGLS6]

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Please don't bring up statistical analysis http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif My apologies Mike, but you gotta admit, it got pretty funny. I still can't seem to get over the first four letters in 'Analysis'!

And for the record, here in our manufacturing environment, Statistical Analysis is part of our daily routine. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[Belair62]

They aren't talking about manufacturing manure Dennis....the analysis of your manufacturing requires latex gloves not analytical stuff.

[ORIGLS6]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif ANALyze this, Bugs! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/BelairSucks.gif

[kwhizz]

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http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif ANALyze this, Bugs! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/BelairSucks.gif

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Ken http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[ORIGLS6]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gifHe knows I'm kidding........

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gifI hope. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[MikeA]

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Please don't bring up statistical analysis http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif My apologies Mike, but you gotta admit, it got pretty funny. I still can't seem to get over the first four letters in 'Analysis'!

And for the record, here in our manufacturing environment, Statistical Analysis is part of our daily routine. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

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It was funny. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[WILMASBOYL78]

It's amazing how these threads wander from one thing to the next..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

wilma http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[MikeA]

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It's amazing how these threads wander from one thing to the next..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

wilma http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

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Tell me about it! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[firstgenaddict]

Over Anal ized

[Belair62]

Because most of us have A.D.D. whether we car to admit it or not.

[Verne_Frantz]

It all depends on what speed Joel's cars entered the Roundabout!!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[firstgenaddict]

In order for us to worry about whether the bolt has the correct marking or the degree of orange peel in a paint job we would have to be a little obsesive and compulsive if not we'd be http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[lowmile]

Joel's taken a look at the pictures and said it looks like their work. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif here's a picture of the intake. Notice the cut out for the Holley 3 barrel. m

[PeteLeathersac]

Can you tell us if Joel commented on the hidden stamping at the bellhousing area or the visible 3305 number? .
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~ Pete

[Belair62]

What looks like their work the stamping ???

[MosportGreen66]

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Joel's taken a look at the pictures and said it looks like their work. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif here's a picture of the intake. Notice the cut out for the Holley 3 barrel. m

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How cool is that!
I would pay the $1500 asap... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[lowmile]

Joel did not comment on any specific part just on the pictures and information as a whole. I guess it takes about 1500.00 to be given more critical answers. I don't blame him for wanting the fee for documentation. He would stay busy all day with people wanting their cars looked over. There's no doubt, he will not give you a yes or no answer with out the fee. m

[PeteLeathersac]

I expect Joel doesn't lead guys into shelling out the $1500 unless he feels a good possibility of being able to provide the documents for what he sees? .

If you do pass him the dough and he knows you're serious, will he answer general questions on other things such as the stampings etc. or just document and discuss your specific car? .
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~ Pete

[Belair62]

I don't think he provides any documents to the inquirer though.