Barrett Jackson.....

[markinnaples]

Who's watching? What do you think of the prices and cars so far? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[69hurstSC]

saw a 71 boss go for 51K, thought it was a good buy!

[bertfam]

Lots of fakes too. 69 Chevelle non SS touted as an SS 396. 69 Camaro "matching numbers" 350/300 "RS" for 52k, but it can't be matching numbers if it's a 350/300 since that's an SS.

More fakes to come?

Ed

[GRB]

Yenko clone just went for around $85K. Beautiful car and looked like it was done right.

[JQ]

Last night I saw the hugger Orange COPO recreation get about $64,0000

[427450]

Hey Mark - in - Naples.

Keith - in- Fort Myers here watching BJ. Any idea when the 69 Yenko Chevelle is going across the block?

[markinnaples]

Hey Keith, sorry, was in the other room watching it off and on but didn't see the Yenko yet.

Where abouts in FM? I'm actually in Collier, but in Bonita Shores.

[427450]

Mark,

I'm in South Fort Myers off of Daniels

Keith

[markinnaples]

Ah yes, I am familiar. I used to live off Summerlin and Gladiolus. Do you have a shop up there?

[427450]

No I had a transmission shop when I lived in South NJ. Thank god I got out of that business. I got burned out on rebuilding transmissions.

We are close to I-75 and Daniels. How about you?

[GRB]

For the GMMG fans, both of us. Did you notice the white and very strange ZL1 phase I that went for $80K?

[mudjnky]

[ QUOTE ]
No I had a transmission shop when I lived in South NJ. Thank god I got out of that business. I got burned out on rebuilding transmissions.

We are close to I-75 and Daniels. How about you?

[/ QUOTE ]

Keith,

This is Scott Pierce from NJ, Highway Stars, How are you?

Scott

[J_D]

[ QUOTE ]
For the GMMG fans, both of us. Did you notice the white and very strange ZL1 phase I that went for $80K?

[/ QUOTE ]

What was so strange about it?

It was just a normal phase 1 2002 ZL1 Supercar.

B-J had a lot of incorrect information on it. As those of us know, it was not a 427 and it was not the only white ZL1 produced.

The original owner was a friend of mine. He sold it and it was the second owner selling it at B-J.

[Late BrakeU2]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
For the GMMG fans, both of us. Did you notice the white and very strange ZL1 phase I that went for $80K?

[/ QUOTE ]

What was so strange about it?

It was just a normal phase 1 2002 ZL1 Supercar.

B-J had a lot of incorrect information on it. As those of us know, it was not a 427 and it was not the only white ZL1 produced.

The original owner was a friend of mine. He sold it and it was the second owner selling it at B-J.

[/ QUOTE ]

Nice to see a GMMG car as the first 4th gen to roll across.The car brought great money-not so much the case with quite a bit of the other stuff-especially "resto mods"

I'm going to hook up with Matt there tommorrow,he was none too pleased that they went commercial during that auction..and also got the description so wrong-
"Built by GM Marketing Group"
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

"

[GRB]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
For the GMMG fans, both of us. Did you notice the white and very strange ZL1 phase I that went for $80K?

[/ QUOTE ]

What was so strange about it?

#1 - It says 427 but 400HP
#2 - the ZL1 emblem on the roof pillar
#3 - there was more than one white made

It was just a normal phase 1 2002 ZL1 Supercar.

B-J had a lot of incorrect information on it. As those of us know, it was not a 427 and it was not the only white ZL1 produced.

The original owner was a friend of mine. He sold it and it was the second owner selling it at B-J.

[/ QUOTE ]

[427450]

Keith,

This is Scott Pierce from NJ, Highway Stars, How are you?

Scott

[/ QUOTE ]

Wow Scott,

I remember your name and am having trouble picturing you. Yes I was in the Highway Stars, so it is me. Did I sell you my Mustang 5.0 about 1993?

I have been living in FL for 5 years.

I am heading out of town and will check to see if you respond on Sunday.

[mudjnky]

Keith,
You got it, blue Mustang, you were living in Marlton

Scott

[Tommy_Mathison]

Does anyone know if the lot 1019 69 RS Z/28 (lemans blue) actually had the crossram? The auction details says it does but the photos show the single 4bbl sertp. Thanks

--Tommy Mathison

[Chevy454]

Boy, weren't the announcers just HATIN' that white & blue '67 Shelby GT500? Granted, it had a 427 & a 5-speed, but I figure the original engine was long gone anyway and that 427 would run & hide from s 428, and the 5-speed makes it drivable...and it's still a real Shelby at the end of the day... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[GRB]

I would have jumped all over that Shelby and well as the red LS6 70 Chevelle A4. I was trying to figure out how to get to the phone and get registered, qualified and all that crap, in just 30 seconds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If I ever buy a Ford, BTW, it will have a 427 or a 429 hemi in it!

Anybody see if that GT-40 went yesterday and for how much?

[Norm reynolds]

Is it me or are there some deals going out there .Watched it Friday night and
Saw some cars that I would think would have sold for much more that they did. If you watch Greg Jackson seemed a little worried his not accepting reserve cars must be screwing some sellers. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gifAnd I know what you are going to say You know this before you try to sell it But why does Greg Jackson insist of not letting some one put a reserve on a car My guess is with a reserve car he can not make as much money on the commission
Saw two 59 De Sotos go for big bucks http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
One more thing What Is the story behind the white 59 Cadillac they called it
The murder car http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[nuch_ss396]

What's the scoop?

I saw two LS-6 Chevelles go across the block last night and
neither one hit 100K. Is it my imagination, or are the prices
falling. Some of the Mustangs were bringing strong money though.

[Charley Lillard]

His name is Craig Jackson and the problem with reserve auctions was many paople thought their cars were worth more than they really were. We all think our cars our the best right ? So you get a bunch of cars that don't sell. Bidders walk away pissed because they came to buy a certain car only to find out it was never for sale at a realistic price. There is no easy answer. Tonight will be the big night to watch. There were many great deals and many cars also went for more than what I thought they were worth. People sitting at home and seeing the great deals might decide they need to come next year with money to buy a cool car. Will next years prices jump because of all the people that saw this years deals and showed up ? There has never been any car sale event of this size that is watched so closely by so many. Each year this will be a facinating watch so see what happens and what effect it has on the market. Great event and very well run especially for the size of it.

[GRB]

Poor Craig did freak out a few times. I think bidders should keep an eye on him because he might be a tip-off to a good buy. Might. But that's the chance you take at BJ with no reserve. I saw one car sell for less than the engine alone was worth. I seem to remember a big block red vette near the end that was a good buy too.

[sYc]

Lots of armchair quarterbacks out there. It is easy to say this car or that car went too cheap, but IMO, the deciding factor is, if you were at the auction, would you have bid on the car. If not, then it was not a bargain. It is easy to spend some elses $$$. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[Norm reynolds]

I really do not think that it because of the market prices are falling
There was some cars that sold for less than some one had in it
Charlie I understand were you are coming from Just look at all the clones
There are more Z –28s out there than Gm Built. Every one thinks there car is a million dollar baby
There also was another problem I can not remember if it was last year or the year before
Now let me see if I can get the facts right”’ Me and my head injury some times gets things mixed up.
There was a red 67 big block 435 hp vette that sold at B/J for 175,000
It was told at the time of sell that it was NCRS certified , Top Flite certified,
The Greg Jackson boys went over it and certified it as numbers matching
And the real deal
A few week later the fellow who purchased the car goes to put the title in his name and to get plates for it .It was then discovered that there was another vette on the road with the same vin . The
fellow who purchased the car was so sure he had the real deal went to the authorities The other vette was traced some were in Texas. When the authorities went to check this car out it was a yellow . the woman who owned it showed the authorities the original order the bill of sell and all the paper work show all work done on the car form day one She was the original owner all the hinting vins matched
So some one went to a lot of work build this red vette but no one ever checked the vin they were using was used I another vette Even B/J did not catch
Form there I never hear any more about this car but I would think it was easy to trace back to see who built this mess
Every one was checking for numbers matching and never checked the vin
To night will tell how things are going There are still a lot of nice cars to be had
And what is the story of the 59 Cadillac murder car

[quick-bowtie]

From what Ive seen there has been a couple of deals but nothing is a give away by any means. Prices stayed strong right until the very end last night..I stayed around to see if I could get a good buy on a custom bike the went second to last.. It didnt happen it brought huge money.. cars with eye candy appeal are strong. Pro Touring Camaro brought around 170k or 180k that was strong.. I personally thought the car was nothing to look at but at least 2 other guys thought it was the bomb! LS6 Chevelles?? Most were automatic's and I think all but 1 was numbers matching.. so 80k to 90k seemd like good money to me considering the car, Im sure a 4 speed car with papers with do 125k to 150k just watch tonight. I do think the buyers are alittle more informed this year not so many crazy people with money to burn or drinking to much...but that could all change today!!

[chads454Ls6]

I know that Quick Bowtie was there and if he would have thought that the ls6 chevelles were underpriced,he would have bought them so i agree with charley. Also you do not see these cars in person so you do not know what condition they are really in.I never saw under the hood of the silver ls6 and the red ls6 was very incorrect.

[sixtiesmuscle]

I agree with Chad totally. If you haven't seen the car, the docs, etc., AND, the weather, you are not in a position to comment on what car is a deal, or, that the market is falling. IMO, the prices were very strong in general for the cars that were auctioned.

[ssl78]

Prices seemed good up until late Friday night, thats about when most people start heading over to Russo Steele auction which is mostly a muscle car auction. The bidders for muscle cars end up over there. In matter of fact the market is actually pretty strong when you see what the older land yahts were bringing. How about that model A cabrolet for over 150k thats unbelievable.

[427king]

[ QUOTE ]
I agree with Chad totally. If you haven't seen the car, the docs, etc., AND, the weather, you are not in a position to comment on what car is a deal, or, that the market is falling. IMO, the prices were very strong in general for the cars that were auctioned.



[/ QUOTE ] AMEN. Great statement. Everyone is quick to call a "low" sale the new market price,not taking into consideration the car was a rebody,had no docs, had a horrible resto,or that it was an automatic[which could really affect certain cars] or that it was gobi beige!! If a red on red Ls6 4 speed w docs that is a perfect resto brings 80K, then we can start looking at things a little differently. You will find those ls6 cars actually brought good money for the condition etc . Yet when a car brings crazy money, people do not consider it the market price because they say some "stupid drunk" had more money than brains. As is stated above,if you arent there looking over every single car for auction you cant sit at home watching TV and decide which prices are going to make up the new market or not. Obviously the people that dont have cars or dont have the money to buy them are going to run with the lowball prices and try to tell everyone the sky is falling.

[musclecarjohn]

The trend seems to be towards the Pro-touring cars,that Camaro and Chevelle 'vert with the wagon wheels both brought huge dollars.'71 Z/28 Sport Coupe (matching #'s/POP/48K miles) brought a strong $60K so there is hope for the early 2nd gen cars.Typical auction prices,some good buys,most not.Early cars were geared towards the entry-level buyer,momentum started slowly.Cars sell for what they do because the buyers have inspected them,they are there,we are not...for the most part. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gifDollars are starting to pick up,tonight should be interesting...

I want to see the Bob Johnson Cuda break the bank... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Charley Lillard]

I think I can safely say that I have purchased more cars than anyone at this years Barrett-Jackson auction.

[MosportGreen66]

[ QUOTE ]
I think I can safely say that I have purchased more cars than anyone at this years Barrett-Jackson auction.

[/ QUOTE ]

care to share?

[njsteve]

Did you see Craig Jackson's reaction at the $40,000 sale of the Von Dutch bus? He and his auctioneers were all expecting another bus bidding war like last year but I think this one really opened his eyes. He saw that six figure commission just fizzle away... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

[427king]

[ QUOTE ]
care to share?

[/ QUOTE ] I believe that was a bit of sarcasm aimed at the people that said "i would have bought that one, and i would have bought that one if i was there "...

[GMC_Typhoon]

[ QUOTE ]

One more thing What Is the story behind the white 59 Cadillac they called it
The murder car http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

http://www.1959cadillac.com/gagnon_murder_story.htm

[Norm reynolds]

Thanks that kind of eerie. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif Kind of reminds me of the pick caddy in good fellows
What would do you do with a car like that drive it or let it sit. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif I guess if you did not know
What happen in the car it would not matter
There is still one more car that is newer and has less miles
4 months to go till they un –burry a new 1957 Plymouth that is buried
in Tulsa, Oklahoma. In 1957
http://www.buriedcar.com/index.cfm?pageID=10
For me I would never sell a car with no reserve. I know last night some sellers
Ended up with less than they put in

[nuch_ss396]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I agree with Chad totally. If you haven't seen the car, the docs, etc., AND, the weather, you are not in a position to comment on what car is a deal, or, that the market is falling. IMO, the prices were very strong in general for the cars that were auctioned.



[/ QUOTE ] AMEN. Great statement. Everyone is quick to call a "low" sale the new market price,not taking into consideration the car was a rebody,had no docs, had a horrible resto,or that it was an automatic[which could really affect certain cars] or that it was gobi beige!! If a red on red Ls6 4 speed w docs that is a perfect resto brings 80K, then we can start looking at things a little differently. You will find those ls6 cars actually brought good money for the condition etc . Yet when a car brings crazy money, people do not consider it the market price because they say some "stupid drunk" had more money than brains. As is stated above,if you arent there looking over every single car for auction you cant sit at home watching TV and decide which prices are going to make up the new market or not. Obviously the people that dont have cars or dont have the money to buy them are going to run with the lowball prices and try to tell everyone the sky is falling.

[/ QUOTE ]

Chuck,

I believe the announcers stated that the silver LS-6 had
"papers". That's why I was surprised at the final price.
I do agree that we can't see the condition of these cars.
But help me here if you can. I was of the opinion that
the cars that came across the block @ BJ were predominantly
high level restorations ( if non-survivor class ). So, what
explains the two LS-6 car prices? Bad resto's, bad or
missing paper work? Again, if BJ is to represent the best
of the best, how did 2nd class cars get in the auction?

Personally, I'd really like to hear from some of the members
here that attended this auction and can attest to the actual
condition of the two particular cars. They looked like very
reasonable buys for the money. I guess what I was trying to
get across with my earlier post is are we possibly seeing
a saturation level with Chevy BB cars? Maybe it's time for
the Mustangs, Cutlass', GS1's. etc.. Just a thought.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

Steve

[77Z28]

What did everyone think of the 68 SS Chevelle vert 396/375 with aluminum heads selling for $85k. It was red on black. I know 68's are not that fully appreciated, but I thought with L78 Nova's commanding that money this one would do better. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Todd

[Chris396]

Looks like the bubble has popped a bit to me. Some of those Vettes seem very cheap to me.

[joey]

With a no reserve auction you get what your car is worth to the purchaser so long as you have 2 real buyers if 1 falls short the second bidder gets a bargain

[Chris396]

Some people are going to get some really nice cars this year for less than the cost of the restoration.

[Jeff H]

Yup, there look to be some good deals this year. It's tough to really judge without being there and seeing the cars and the documentation in person. But good buys this year might lead to higher prices again next year. I think last year was an anomoly because you had a couple of serious people looking to build museum collections and that artificially inflated the prices. This year seems more realistic of what to expect.

[JQ]

Triple black Z-16 $260,000 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[3macs1]

Agree some people have got some real nice cars so far for less than restoration costs. Honestly it really seems like a unique crowd bidding.Looking more for big HP in drivers that they can have fun with. No offense to those with customs and yes it is not the same as being there but when you see a 69 original 6 cylinder camaro custom going for 182K and you could not pull more than 90 out of a 67 tri power vet. There was one vet in particular I would have cryed if I was the owner.
We all watched basket case ls-6 chevelles sell that needed every panel replaced on e-bay for 50 plus after the last auction now a No. 2 cannot bring 80 and he did say they had papers but what does that mean today.
Take a 318 dodge conv however and throw a hemi in it and 100K plus is right there.
You never know.

[Charley Lillard]

A good example is the 67 Camaro with the really low vin #. I think it sold for over 40K. It was a so so resto, caution fan sticker, LA car with the restamped block that they stamped a N as if it was a Norwood car. 40K was about 20K too high in my mind.

[Charley Lillard]

....116 Corvettes.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/CharleySucks.gif..

[HEMIBEE]

I think that the R&S auction drags alot of the muscle car buyers to their event. they are primarily muscle cars. I look at the cars they have, and i think i would be there also.

[chads454Ls6]

Charley,i thought that 6 banger sold for 63k ?

[Charley Lillard]

and a stage coach...... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif http://www.yenko.net/attachments/247400-a087.jpg

[JQ]

Out of curiosity, Who determines what the bidding will start at.

[Chris396]

That low mile Hemi Cuda's owner must have dropped dead. I'm sure he's been offered double or triple over what it sold for over the years.

[GRB]

[ QUOTE ]
Triple black Z-16 $260,000 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Pardon me while I nauseate for a minute as I remember selling my '70 Daytona Yellow LT1 and my older brother sold his '65 Z16 Yellow Chevelle for a pittance. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

[Chris396]

Can a seller pull his car before it hits the block?

[427king]

[ QUOTE ]
Agree some people have got some real nice cars so far for less than restoration costs

[/ QUOTE ] I think thats due in part to the fact that people do full blown restos on average cars, and they never recoup thier resto costs. If a car isnt worth 150K or so, there is no financial reason to do a concourse resto on it.. Its kind of like building a mansion in a bad section of town..you arent going to get your building costs back.

[chads454Ls6]

[ QUOTE ]
That low mile Hemi Cuda's owner must have dropped dead. I'm sure he's been offered double or triple over what it sold for over the years.

[/ QUOTE ]
Quick Bowtie owned this car about a year ago and i thought he sold it for more than that then and it traded hands a few times after that. When i saw it hit the block i thought it would bring 1 million. That guy must be bummin!

[427king]

[ QUOTE ]
I believe the announcers stated that the silver LS-6 had
"papers". That's why I was surprised at the final price.
I do agree that we can't see the condition of these cars.
But help me here if you can. I was of the opinion that
the cars that came across the block @ BJ were predominantly
high level restorations ( if non-survivor class ). So, what
explains the two LS-6 car prices? Bad resto's, bad or
missing paper work? Again, if BJ is to represent the best
of the best, how did 2nd class cars get in the auction

[/ QUOTE ] When someone says it has "papers", that can mean it has a title, an owners manual, a fake buildsheet, a buildsheet with the corner vin ripped off, or anything of the sort. I dont know what the Ls6 Black convert did or will do as i havent seen it go thru , but whatever it brings [column auto with a buildsheet missing a VIN],i wont consider that the market for a 4 speed car with a vin'd buildsheet. Thats what im trying to say. Nor will i take the 1.3M sale last year of the Briggs car to mean market price either. Lastly dont ever assume all the cars at BJ are quality cars. Rather the majority of quaility documented cars are usually tucked in at home in someones gartage when BJ is going on.

[sean70ss]

Wow-Hemi cuda 500k and the fred gibb nova for 150k surprised that did not bring more nice car.

sean http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Belair62]

[ QUOTE ]
Lastly dont ever assume all the cars at BJ are quality cars. Rather the majority of quaility documented cars are usually tucked in at home in someones gartage when BJ is going on.


[/ QUOTE ]

I agree...looks like a lot of the cars that did not bring big money in years past are coming up ...Boss 9 as an example...beauty just went thru...

[JChlupsa]

COPO Camaro lot 1271.1 F/Green goes for $150K

[chads454Ls6]

[ QUOTE ]
COPO Camaro lot 1271.1 F/Green goes for $150K

[/ QUOTE ]
Not to keep brining up quick bowtie,but i believe that was his car.

[Jeff H]

I think the Brown COPO went for $160K shortly before the green one.

[JChlupsa]

Pair of 69 Z28 with Crossrams one lot for $240K

[Chevy454]

If they keep gettin' the camera down low around that girl holding the sign for that yellow Hemi Cuda then this thing is gonna turn "R" rated in a hurry... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[Norm reynolds]

The builder for the blue ford street rod six years to build
looked sick when it went off at 150.000 he must of had at lest 250.000 in it

[427king]

[ QUOTE ]
If they keep gettin' the camera down low around that girl holding the sign for that yellow Hemi Cuda then this thing is gonna turn "R" rated in a hurry

[/ QUOTE ] And just think,Belair has to look UP to see under her dress.....

[GRB]

A pair of resto hemi 69 mustangs for $530K!

And what's with the Steve Davis (?) guy and the sunglasses??

[Jeff Murphy]

What do you think the percentage of buybacks is? If I had 250 in a car and it stalled at 150, and I believed I could get more for it, I'd buy it back.

[Belair62]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
If they keep gettin' the camera down low around that girl holding the sign for that yellow Hemi Cuda then this thing is gonna turn "R" rated in a hurry

[/ QUOTE ] And just think,Belair has to look UP to see under her dress.....

[/ QUOTE ]

See...you know you want to be like me Chuck

[Zedder]

Denis got some good TV time when he was bidding on the Gibb Nova http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[JChlupsa]

69 Motion Racecar for $95K WOW thats LOW LOW LOW

[Speedrx]

1969 Motion Camaro Race Car just sold for $95K

Comments?

[427king]

[ QUOTE ]
What do you think the percentage of buybacks is? If I had 250 in a car and it stalled at 150, and I believed I could get more for it, I'd buy it back

[/ QUOTE ] While i somewhat agree, id have a hard time giving BJ a check for 19500.00 commision[i prefer to use thier "extortion percentage"] just to get my title back.

[Norm reynolds]

That is what I thought you could not build one at that price

[jeff morocco]

and just behind the winning bidder was none other than our own photographer..........xplantdad !!! just as the camera flashed to him, bruce took a picture, like he knew he was being watched!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[JChlupsa]

69 Yenko Chevelle goes for $160K

[COPO]

Did Gary Holub buy the Y-chevelle? Saw him bidding, but couldn't tell if he bought it.

[sean70ss]

WOW!!! Very surprised on that yenko chevelle good deal!

Sean

[Norm reynolds]

did that girl get the yenko???

[chads454Ls6]

[ QUOTE ]
69 Yenko Chevelle goes for $160K

[/ QUOTE ]

Was that john oehlers car?

[Jeff H]

So what do you guys think, looks like a 20-25% reduction in prices from last year.

[JChlupsa]

hope the lady got it as it seemed to fit her perfect

[COPO]

I'm not sure how much Motion was involved with the Camaro race car. I think they were just one of the sponsors. Still seems like a good deal, but not a "Motion" car IMHO.

[Chris396]

I think we are hearing the bubble pop.

[Norm reynolds]

510.000 for two 63 split window vettes http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[JChlupsa]

EXCELLENT job on the CNNs Hummer and for a great cause

[Chevy454]

Pauly in the hizzowz...

Classy move on the Hummer... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[GRB]

The Hummer deal was touching!!

[Belair62]

[ QUOTE ]
I think we are hearing the bubble pop.

[/ QUOTE ]
Thats about the 3rd time you've said that Chris. Do you believe it yet ?

[Norm reynolds]

I see Pauly jr From OCC and Alan the Ferrari guy was at front stage
Alan has a shop 5 mile from me my corvette club was support to go up to visit him but have not had the time yet to do so

[musclecarjohn]

Copo George on stage with the Last 67...

[Chris396]

Well maybe not a pop but a slow leak.

[musclecarjohn]

Handing out leather jackets...! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Steve Drueck]

$264 K for a pair of 69 Z28's is no slow leak. Neither is $583 for a pair of Boss Mustangs. It just depends on the individual cars themselves and the buyers they attract.

[GMC_Typhoon]

600K for the last Stingray?

[Norm reynolds]

The last stingray went for 600.000 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
We were told at the last meeting that the Owners expected at lest 1 million for it http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[MosportGreen66]

I don't think the last stingray is worth half that $600k...

Motion prepped Camaro was a good buy along with the Yenko Chevelle. Could you build a real Z28 in full race trim, grpahics, Aluminum motor etc for $100,000? Would be damn hard... Hemi cars remained strong along with customs...

[Norm reynolds]

All the Corvette experts that I have talked to felt it would Bring more the a 1 million
Does not matter I can not afford it at 600.000

[Hylton]

Prices are comparable to last year without a doubt. What has changed however are the expectations of the sellers. I think many went in there with dollar signs dancing in their heads.

Trans-Am cars are definitely stronger. Waiting to see what a nice 70 Z will do.

[Norm reynolds]

Ant that the truth http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[Chevy454]

[ QUOTE ]
Motion prepped Camaro was a good buy along with the Yenko Chevelle.

[/ QUOTE ]
Not every one is a fan of green, and a lot of folks don't like to see a column shift automatic on a muscle car...I actually like both, which tells me this car wasn't for everyone!

[Norm reynolds]

The old turbo 400s and toque flight 727s would take one hell of a beating http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[Belair62]

So far very focused and discriminating bidders....lots of cool cars.

[quick-bowtie]

Prices seemed high last night, but very soft today. Mustangs and customs are the hot stuff, I hate to admit it but Chevys are definately down, unless you sell them in pairs it seems. I was bidding on the Motion car and had the bid and then they start talking about it again and when then when they come back I all of a sudden didnt have the bid and the price didnt change?? Pissed me off so I walked away I sure I'll reget that, that car was a steal!! My old Cuda did 500k and I talked to the owner and he said he wanted aleast 1 mil.. Ouch The car has changed hands a few time since I had it but I know the current owner had well over 500 in it.. My COPO did 150k which I thought was a little light but the car is driven and wasnt perfect so I cant complain and the guy that bought it was very happy. There are alot of Bogus cars out there and you hear people talking about them so if I wasnt an educated buyer Id be holding back a little and that seems to be the case.

[x Baldwin Motion]

grumpy's toy mmmmmm http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

that brings back memories http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Can-I-Have-It.gif

[Chevy454]

No doubt, X...what a heck of a time for my 7 year old to fire up his drum set! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[Norm reynolds]

525.000 for Grumpys toy At 70 years old he looks good http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
It has been a long long time since I have seen him I think
tonight is the first I have seen him smile http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif I remember that car
ruining at Acto http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Chris396]

This music memorabilia is at the wrong auction.

[x Baldwin Motion]

[ QUOTE ]
No doubt, X...what a heck of a time for my 7 year old to fire up his drum set! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

its a shame they dont have the rides fired up rolling on or off any more. I remember they drove on and off. then drove on and pushed off, but now you rarely here any cars running.
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[Norm reynolds]

[ QUOTE ]
There are alot of Bogus cars out there and you hear people talking about them so if I wasnt an educated buyer Id be holding back a little and that seems to be the case.

[/ QUOTE ]

That must be the case you can see Craig Jackson trying to talk up the cars. There must be a lot of unhappy sellers out there . There is no dought he will Catching some grief

[GRB]

$600k for a 4 dr. hemi?? I love the hemi but I could pick a better body.

[Norm reynolds]

I did not know they built a four door 1966 Coronet with a Hemi
that did good at 600.00

[x Baldwin Motion]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif Carrol Shelby; " I'm still vertical" http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif
and his super snake. Now THAT is one of one !!

[Chris396]

I'd be scared of that Super Snake. Is that a wife or daughter next to that bidder?

[Norm reynolds]

He looks good for 84 years old is he not oldest person to have a heart transplant
If right I think it something like over 20 years
500.000 million for the Cobra http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[JChlupsa]

Mr Pratt comes through again and keeps the record for bid amount. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Norm reynolds]

By the way who is the old guy with the kids He seem to be a heavy buyer

[SUSQ]

I was just going to ask the same question. . .

[x Baldwin Motion]

[ QUOTE ]
Mr Pratt comes through again and keeps the record for bid amount. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

same guy that bought the GM bus last year got the cobra?

[Xplantdad]

[ QUOTE ]
and just behind the winning bidder was none other than our own photographer..........xplantdad !!! just as the camera flashed to him, bruce took a picture, like he knew he was being watched!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Really??? I was on TV? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Chris396]

I think Shelby is the longest surviving transplant recipient.

[Chevy454]

Boy, did you see that 2nd FireArrow smoke when they pulled it on stage? Guess that verifies it's Mopar roots... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Belair62]

You wish YOU could smoke at that age !!!

[Chevy454]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[dreemz]

Was there an issue with the black LS6 convertible that only went to 215K? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[m22mike]

[ QUOTE ]
I think the Brown COPO went for $160K shortly before the green one.

[/ QUOTE ]
This car sold for a Buck 50 last summer, then was re united with it's original block,and blessed by Jerry M, WOW ! what's up with the Chevy prices??
Just got back from the B-J, The Reggie Jackson 69 Silver RS COPO Camero with Canadian docs only got 160.

[427king]

RH corner of BS missing maybe??

[JChlupsa]

White #51 ZL1 sold at $800K

[Norm reynolds]

Regies ZL-1 just went for 800.000

[JChlupsa]

Just noticed 7 pages on this auction plenty of people here watching and posting.

[Chevy454]

130+ plus posts and over 3,000 views...

[Norm reynolds]

Red Alert will be coming up

[JChlupsa]

hope they dont go to commericial when it gets rolled up on the stage

[NWYENKO]

By watching closely, I think Reggie was bidding until it hit the $800k. Little subtle knods and a head shake at the sale. Nothing wrong with it but to me it says there was 1 person interested in spending that kind of money, not 2. Only time it would matter would be if I was the bidder and felt the owner was jacking it up. AGAIN, just my $.02 worth. If Mr. Pratt is happy, nothing else matters. Jim

[AutoInsane]

Speed has to be kidding with all of these commercials!

What were the top 5 highest selling cars so far? (11pm Saturday)

[nuch_ss396]

[ QUOTE ]
By watching closely, I think Reggie was bidding until it hit the $800k. Little subtle knods and a head shake at the sale. Nothing wrong with it but to me it says there was 1 person interested in spending that kind of money, not 2. Only time it would matter would be if I was the bidder and felt the owner was jacking it up. AGAIN, just my $.02 worth. If Mr. Pratt is happy, nothing else matters. Jim

[/ QUOTE ]

I think there is a lot more of this that goes on - than we
know about. Someday the whole story will come out.....

If true, I find something very wrong with a seller uping
their own auction. It's just wrong.

[Norm reynolds]

What the heck OCC had more money tied up just in the bikes http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
the Charger and vette bike combo went cheep http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

[AutoInsane]

Commercials, commercials, commercials!!!!! Ok, who is with me on a boycott of the auction? This sucks!

[HEMIBEE]

thats kind of like EBAY live, (bidding your own item up through a friend)

[71-LS6]

[ QUOTE ]
I did not know they built a four door 1966 Coronet with a Hemi
that did good at 600.00

[/ QUOTE ]

I read something on the 4dr hemi in mopar muscle a while back, it's supposed to be 1 of 1.

[BUIZILLA]

something smells about the white Camaro auction... Pratt is much smarter than that..

[71-LS6]

Just as I start slobbering over the green L88 car, a COMMERCIAL! Enough already.

[Norm reynolds]

chip Fouse Chalenger over 600.000 and other cars going cheep
something is just not right
Ok here is red Alert

[mockingbird812]

Red Alert went for $140,000

[Norm reynolds]

red Alert just went for 140.000 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
something smells http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

[MosportGreen66]

Man I feel for the Red Alert. It needs a good home and at $140,000 I feel like there was room... The Ram Chargers Hemi was $300,000+ and I would think both are comparable.

[Shawn_O]

Wow...What a buy http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[nuch_ss396]

[ QUOTE ]
Commercials, commercials, commercials!!!!! Ok, who is with me on a boycott of the auction? This sucks!

[/ QUOTE ]

I missed the frikkin '69 L-88 Vette due to commercials!
That's the one car I really wanted to see. They spent too
damn much time with the dysfunctional trio ( OCC idiots )
and no time on the L-88 Vette. Enough with this
crap. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[Norm reynolds]

You would think a car Like Red Alert would be as strong as the Fouse car I think OCC also got lost money
I just dont get it

[427king]

Can someone explain to me why everyone believes the low prices are legit sales but no one believes the high prices are legit sales ???

[71-LS6]

L88 vette is yet to come, they used it on that fantasy bid promo

[nuch_ss396]

Ford strikes big!!

Over half a million for a '69 Boss 429 - WOW http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[Norm reynolds]

A Boss 429 just went 550.000 and Red Alert went for 140.000
What is going on on out there

[Norm reynolds]

Ok I just Notice ford motor company is sponsoring
B/J Now we have a Yenko vette that went for 210.000 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Looks like some one is trying to push the Ford name http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[AutoInsane]

Ok, who is the kid who just got a great deal on the L-88????

[nuch_ss396]

If I'm crying I'm Dying! And I'm crying. That L-88 Vette goes
fo half that of the Boss 429 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif

NOW - Where's that asteroid to wipe out the planet......

[71-LS6]

L88, does anybody know this car? Were there some flaws, or was it bogus, 240 and very lackluster bidding raises a question in my mind.

[nuch_ss396]

[ QUOTE ]
Ok I just Notice ford motor company is sponsoring
B/J Now we have a Yenko vette that went for 210.000 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Looks like some one is trying to push the Ford name http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Norm,

I was trying to think back as to how many times they stalled
the auctions to hype-up some of the Ford cars. Something fishy?

[gab02]

Kid has some money, saw him bidding on some other cars.

[nuch_ss396]

If Ford was sponsering this auction, perhaps they stopped
the GM guys from entering and bidding. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[MosportGreen66]

[ QUOTE ]

B/J Now we have a Yenko vette that went for 210.000 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif


[/ QUOTE ]

The "Yenko" corvette has a really cool story and I am shocked my friend did not buy it consider he owns the twin to it. Mike Summers who drove the Best Photo '66 Corvette M22, L72 from Yenko Chevrolet was given the car to drive as a daily driver. It was optioned in the same colors as the Best Photo car. My friend who owns the Best Photo car, has a binder full of photos of the cars together. It does not have the original motor, but it sure is a cool example! Nice money too.

[nuch_ss396]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif $250,000.00 for the Hemi Cuda http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

Good buy!

[Norm reynolds]

Will be going to Atlantic city in a few weeks It will be interesting to see if Ford Dominates There
I think It was Bow Tie that said there was a lot of bogus cars there this year
I guess People think it is it’s a mustang you cant go wrong
Also where did all these low mileage cars come from and how do you know what is the real mileage All I can say is something is going on out there

[Norm reynolds]

[ QUOTE ]
I was trying to think back as to how many times they stalled
the auctions to hype-up some of the Ford cars. Something fishy?


[/ QUOTE ]
Now we have Bill Goldberg GTX went for 150.00 witch is a good buy but wait a minute
That more that Red Alert This year will be one for the books Yea I do think some thing is Fishy

[gab02]

I don't think anything is fishy this year. Chevy's are just down this year. I hate to say it but it is true.

[71-LS6]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I was trying to think back as to how many times they stalled
the auctions to hype-up some of the Ford cars. Something fishy?


[/ QUOTE ]

I talked to a driver for an auto transport company several years ago, he said that for several years, he would haul a car or or two back to AZ. after some of the BJ bidders raised hell after a purchase. According to him, it was not unsual for BJ to buy back some cars.

[nuch_ss396]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I was trying to think back as to how many times they stalled
the auctions to hype-up some of the Ford cars. Something fishy?


[/ QUOTE ]

I talked to a driver for an auto transport company several years ago, he said that for several years, he would haul a car or or two back to AZ. after some of the BJ bidders raised hell after a purchase. According to him, it was not unsual for BJ to buy back some cars.

[/ QUOTE ]

Steve,

Probably a case of acceptable losses! B-J still wins big!

Steve

[Xplantdad]

The pics that I shot for Saturday can be found here:

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/247530/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1

There is a really cool photo at the end!

Enjoy...!

[427king]

Chevys are down this year?? For one, 88K for a 400hp[?] camaro w M22 and AC ?? I think its quite apparent that BJ sells cars that cater to impulse buyers,not investors.................... $68,200.00 ….. Lot# 938 ….. 1969 CHEVROLET CAMARO Z/28 COUPE
$88,000.00 ….. Lot# 940 ….. 1969 CHEVROLET CAMARO RS/SS 396 COUPE
$73,700.00 ….. Lot# 944.1 ….. 1968 CHEVROLET CAMARO CUSTOM CONVERTIBLE
$71,500.00 ….. Lot# 972 ….. 1968 CHEVROLET CAMARO Z/28 RS COUPE
$134,200.00 ….. Lot# 996.1 ….. 1969 CHEVROLET CAMARO ZL1 COUPE RE-CREATION
$66,000.00 ….. Lot# 1003.1 ….. 1971 CHEVROLET CAMARO Z/28 COUPE
$132,000.00 ….. Lot# 1019 ….. 1969 CHEVROLET CAMARO Z/28 RS COUPE
$75,900.00 ….. Lot# 1029 ….. 1967 CHEVROLET CAMARO COUPE
$99,000.00 ….. Lot# 1035 ….. 1969 CHEVROLET CAMARO Z/28 COUPE
$200,200.00 ….. Lot# 1040 ….. 1969 CHEVROLET CAMARO Z/28 RS CUSTOM COUPE
$77,000.00 ….. Lot# 1051.1 ….. 1969 CHEVROLET CAMARO Z/28 RS COUPE
$68,200.00 ….. Lot# 1052 ….. 1969 CHEVROLET CAMARO COUPE COPO RE-CREATION
$74,800.00 ….. Lot# 1077 ….. 1969 CHEVROLET CAMARO Z/28 COUPE

[70 copo]

The Auction focus has shifted to almost 70% Muscle cars going across the block this year and there appears to be market saturation. The investors have become cherry pickers.

When there are more cars out there then buyers the price falls on the remaining cars until new buyers step up.

I agree Fords and Mopars have dominated at the auction this year. Sad.

[njsteve]

Looks like they were saturated with Cudas as those prices floundered for the most part. A buddy of mine had Lot 1339- the purple and white 71 six barrel Cuda up at the end of sat night. It listed as sold for 120,000 including commision (108K before buyer fees???). I cant imagine he let it go for that and didnt buy it back.

The restored Boss 429 prices were suprising in $400K range.

Once again the coverage was dismal at times. I loved it when the bozo announcer tried to explain what a double COPO was and said: "Well that means it has both front and rear spoilers in addition to the regular COPO package" OY! Or when he impugned the legitimacy of the green COPO Chevelle because "All COPOS came with a 140 mph speedometer and this one has a 120 speedo."

Or when they decided to interview Edsel Ford instead of running the 78 mile Hemicuda and only cut to it at the tail end of its auction when the price ran up. They have no idea what is interesting to their viewers.

Or anytime the OCC (Orange County Chopper or maybe we should now call them Officially Communications Challenged) guys would get to the mike. The dad babbled and rambled and when he ran out of things to babble he would just yell "Rock and Roll!" I thought I was watching a rerun of the mock rockumentary "This is Spinal Tap." Plus, his biceps really shrunk away. I guess he's spending too much time self promoting and not working out anymore.

The only one who wins this year is Craig Jackson: Since everyone saw how low the prices were (whether the cars actually sold or were bought back) more people will probably show up with cash next year thinking they can find a fire-sale bargain.

I think this auction will mark the exodus of the real quality, pedigreed cars to the competition's reserve auctions.

[SBR]

[ QUOTE ]
L88, does anybody know this car? Were there some flaws, or was it bogus, 240 and very lackluster bidding raises a question in my mind.

[/ QUOTE ] Steve, that L88 while advertised to have its OM did not have its original stamp. The bidding was real and TM was on the car at 230K My take on the auction is that the market is becoming more selective and educated and will not open a blank checkbook for a car with issues. While I cannot speak for the e bodied mopars which seemed to down 50% vs last year I can speak for the 67 435 models and the L88 Corvettes. Prices for the 67s were down 20% vs last year but there was not one 435 car that I saw that had its original motor so while prices to the casual observer seem to be lower I believe that it is a reflection of the quality of cars that were present. I know of several recent sales of great 435s and three 69Lss that sold for huge$$$ so I believe that great cars are still selling for big money and will always bring big money. Also I think if the folks at BJ keep raising their commission rates and offer no reserve only auctions that the quality of their consignments will continue to plummett. IMHO

[Wardy]

Here's a prophetic post from the NCRS tech board about the Ford prices.
Link (http://www.ncrs.org/forum/archive29.cgi?review=265187)

[Belair62]

[ QUOTE ]
My take on the auction is that the market is becoming more selective and educated and will not open a blank checkbook for a car with issues. .... I know of several recent sales of great 435s and three 69Lss that sold for huge$$$ so I believe that great cars are still selling for big money and will always bring big money. Also I think if the folks at BJ keep raising their commission rates and offer no reserve only auctions that the quality of their consignments will continue to plummett. IMHO

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree...very wise and focuse buyers at this auction...Chevy prices were not down...quality was...and buyers were not paying up....the good cars are at home in peoples garages still...some of those Fords had to come up....Boss 9 is a badass car...as well as some off the other Mustangs....

[Stuart Adams]

Enjoyed watching. Obviously it works, very popular and Speed devotes alot of air time to it. Just a money making machine at this point and it just keeps steamrolling ahead. Like Bob said this is just a sampling of cars and if the quality is down so will be the prices. Didn't see a whole lot of cars I had to have.

Bruce, I want to thank you for all the pictures. It takes an enormous amount of time and the site is better because of you. Thank You Bruce.

[HEMIBEE]

i wonder if people still think the black raiv judge that sold on ebay for 490k was a real transaction? the white ram air iv judge sold for 117k plus craigs take, looked like a nice car. the pontiacs are down in price a little also, i think it will be a positive, and bring more buyers to the plate. i am going to be looking for an ls6 panic sale,LOL "but if anybody here is in panic PM me"

[joey]

if your in it for investment sell your copo or 67 z28 and buy a shelby or mopar there kicking chevys butt as far as price and demand the camaro sales this week were a joke no big money I guess its because so many crooks have made clones and fake trim tags with false docs and even the real cars cant prove much anymore I think a lot of this is because of how some of you that think you are experts and are ceartinally not knock cars like you did my l78 when actually you have no clue everyone thinks they can pick apart a car because a hose is not the right color or a bolt dosent have paint on or the paper for pop looks too white (that one kills me)it etc maby one of these days you will learn to say nice car wish it was in my garauge and maby the prices will go up instead of down!!

[ANDY M]

Whoever bought the OCC cars with the bike included got a whale of a deal. The cost of the bike fabrication was more than what the car sold for! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
If the bike were to sell at a motorcycle only auction, there could be no way that it would sell for than less $100K. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
As far as keeping the bike and car as a set, it's obvious to me, IMHO, that the bidders were going for the car, not the set. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif
The Walrus got torn up by the Sharks. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[P.J.]

If all the stars and celeberties are selling their cars
they know must know something up. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif And when the regular bidders at BJ finnish their museums colections then who will pay the big bucks for these cars.
Peter

[nuch_ss396]

[ QUOTE ]
If all the stars and celeberties are selling their cars
they know must know something up. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif And when the regular bidders at BJ finnish their museums colections then who will pay the big bucks for these cars.
Peter

[/ QUOTE ]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif BINGO http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[njsteve]

Was anybody else offended by the conduct of the bidder assistants?

What I find obnoxious is that they get right in the bidders faces and put a hand on their leg or arm around them. Totally innapropriate contact. I saw the skinny "screamer" guy grab the inner thigh of one bidder in his chair. My wife saw that on TV and looked at me and said: "Did he just do what I think he did?" Yup. If he did that to me I'd make one hell of scene.

How about the older male assistant that kept grabbing the 6 year old son of a major bidder and kept hugging him and holding up for the crowd. Very creepy! It looked like a NAMBLA recruiting photo. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[69hurstSC]

[/ QUOTE ]I read something on the 4dr hemi in mopar muscle a while back, it's supposed to be 1 of 1.

[/ QUOTE ]

there were 4 66 hemi 4 doors built

[ QUOTE ]
A pair of resto hemi 69 mustangs for $530K!


[/ QUOTE ]

i thought 69 boss 302's were only available in Red, Yellow, Blue and White?? the guy walking around the car even said that both cars were factory black.

[ QUOTE ]
Ok I just Notice ford motor company is sponsoring
B/J Now we have a Yenko vette that went for 210.000
Looks like some one is trying to push the Ford name

[/ QUOTE ]

i think the abominable snowman might be bidding up the fords http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif seriously though, rare mustangs (other than shelbys) haven't brought the money that chevrolets with similar production #'s have brought in the past. i honestly think these mustangs are finally getting there due justice.

[SSJunkie68-69]

The question of the quality of the cars that were going across the block is a valid one. People will always pay a premium for quality that is REAL. Maybe we are seeing an educated buyer......

It's funny but when you factor in the buyers and sellers commission that BJ gets along with any other add ons that may occur and add them all together, are the total prices paid that far off from what we see as the current market value on some of these rides?

[Jeff H]

There definitely seemed to be some over hyping on the Ford cars. The Chevy's were obviously down(other than the pair of crossram Z28's for $240K!), the Mopars were down and the Fords were bringing crazy numbers. That's why I try not to let the BJ auction act as an indicator for values, because they force the no reserve if you want it on the block, they pick which cars to spend more time on, and it's an auction where people can bid on their own car(most auctions seem to allow this as well)! But sitting here at home we have no idea as to the quality of the cars and restorations and if they are truly #'s matching with legit documents. Sounds like a lot bs is going on with the GM stuff and that scares people from bidding. And we all know BJ doesn't stand behind the cars so if you got suckered, it's your own fault! But it makes for entertainment I guess. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Norm reynolds]

Well All I can say Is Crag Jackson end up the BIG loser last night and if not for the guy that paid 5 million dollars for a cobra that had issues the night would have been a bust
I will also not disuse what problem that
were with the 5 million dollar car. I know It is here say
After last Night tv showing I was talking to some one that was there and all I can say is the sh** hit the fan I will not replete what was told to me because there are people on this site will say it is here say and is it a fact but There must have been others there that saw the same thing a lot of behind the seen arguments All I can say there was a lot of problems and I would bet next year the reserve car bidding will be back. That is if Crag Jackson still wants to make a profit
And last every one I talked to wanted to know who the old guy with the kids all over him was It looked like he did not know what the heck he was doing or cared on what he was bidding on
As fair as I am concern the whole thing was one big mess and smelled
A lot of people lost big money

[MosportGreen66]

[ QUOTE ]
Was anybody else offended by the conduct of the bidder assistants?

What I find obnoxious is that they get right in the bidders faces and put a hand on their leg or arm around them. Totally innapropriate contact. I saw the skinny "screamer" guy grab the inner thigh of one bidder in his chair. My wife saw that on TV and looked at me and said: "Did he just do what I think he did?" Yup. If he did that to me I'd make one hell of scene.

How about the older male assistant that kept grabbing the 6 year old son of a major bidder and kept hugging him and holding up for the crowd. Very creepy! It looked like a NAMBLA recruiting photo. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Steve, you want to hear obnoxious? Did you happen to catch one of the auctioneers say to a bidder "someone just donated 1 million dollars to charity and you cannot afford to buy a $210,000 car?" The bidder was in a war with a hot rod convertible. I was floored. Inappropriate at best considering his condescending tone.

[John]

Maybe the "subliminal advertising "
with all the Ford banners
..."in the roof" ...had an affect on the bidder's
... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
...
..What was the quality of the cars over at Russo Steele Auction....I think that had something to do with some of those prices....
...great cars with documentation and the right color will always be in demand
...I think they could vary their commercials thru the event
...that was torture http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

[69hurstSC]

is there some GM sour grapes over fords increased values??

[GRB]

Looks to me like the Ford conspiracy went down the tubes when Ford's USA pres. threw in '07 Shelby VIN #2 at MSRP and the bid did not go up one penny! Or maybe the $600k was a "staged" price.

It would be interesting to know what "really" goes on behind the scenes a BJ. Craig comes across as a first class shyster and his side-kick and those sunglasses??? WTF Mr. Hollywood, has it dawned on you that you are the only person in the whole FN place wearing sunglasses INDOORS??!!!

These guys are making the whole game look a little shady.

[tjs44]

Did anyone see Reggies 62 SD Cat go through,looked at the site and it went for 181K.Wonder if he was happier with that result then the ZL1?Tom

[COPO PETE]

[/ QUOTE ]Steve, you want to hear obnoxious? Did you happen to catch one of the auctioneers say to a bidder "someone just donated 1 million dollars to charity and you cannot afford to buy a $210,000 car?" The bidder was in a war with a hot rod convertible. I was floored. Inappropriate at best considering his condescending tone.

[/ QUOTE ]
That was unbelievable! If that happened to me, they would have escorted me out the door after I was through with them!
Peter http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

[BUIZILLA]

one thing that sticks in my head, that my dad always said...

never, absolutely NEVER, do business with anyone that won't take their sunglasses off, so you can't see the truth in their eyes....

to this day, I live by that creed.

JH

[71-LS6]

[ QUOTE ]
one thing that sticks in my head, that my dad always said...

never, absolutely NEVER, do business with anyone that won't take their sunglasses off, so you can't see the truth in their eyes....

to this day, I live by that creed.

JH

[/ QUOTE ]

My wife noticed the sunglasses guy too, said he looked like a shady hick. Unless he's had some sort of disfiguring injury, he really ought to drop that routine.

PS, thanks for the correction on the 4dr hemi ride, I would have figured it for a police pkg, if not for the color.

[SSJunkie68-69]

I was looking at copy I made of the 2005 BJ Saturday action this morning and Mr. Shadey was wearing sun glasses back then too~

[3macs1]

[ QUOTE ]


[/ QUOTE ]I read something on the 4dr hemi in mopar muscle a while back, it's supposed to be 1 of 1.

[/ QUOTE ]

there were 4 66 hemi 4 doors built

Five I think if you count the one in canada. It was in Ontario for a while then was sold back state side. I forget the history now but remember seeing the car.

[x Baldwin Motion]

I won't begin to stick up for shady characters or anyone with a good poker face, but sadly I have an eye disease that requires me to wear dark prescription glasses outdoors always and inside brightly lit stores, supermarkets etc. I've heard mumblings of crap like "what are you a F#$(&^g movie star or something" to "why dont you take off your shades so you can see what you're doing". The sad thing is, is that I can't see what I'm doing without them. I even have to where them while watching TV during the day. I would much rather fit into the crowd rather have someone ask me if I'm selling pencils. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[nuch_ss396]

[ QUOTE ]
Was anybody else offended by the conduct of the bidder assistants?

What I find obnoxious is that they get right in the bidders faces and put a hand on their leg or arm around them. Totally innapropriate contact. I saw the skinny "screamer" guy grab the inner thigh of one bidder in his chair. My wife saw that on TV and looked at me and said: "Did he just do what I think he did?" Yup. If he did that to me I'd make one hell of scene.

How about the older male assistant that kept grabbing the 6 year old son of a major bidder and kept hugging him and holding up for the crowd. Very creepy! It looked like a NAMBLA recruiting photo. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Steve,

Did you see this boys mother ( I believe ) try to coax him
back to her? I was somewhat bothered by this. Good observation.

Steve

[Belair62]

[ QUOTE ]
if your in it for investment sell your copo or 67 z28 and buy a shelby or mopar there kicking chevys butt as far as price and demand the camaro sales this week were a joke no big money I guess its because so many crooks have made clones and fake trim tags with false docs and even the real cars cant prove much anymore I think a lot of this is because of how some of you that think you are experts and are ceartinally not knock cars like you did my l78 when actually you have no clue everyone thinks they can pick apart a car because a hose is not the right color or a bolt dosent have paint on or the paper for pop looks too white (that one kills me)it etc maby one of these days you will learn to say nice car wish it was in my garauge and maby the prices will go up instead of down!!

[/ QUOTE ]

We were watching Barret Jackson...what were you watching ? Mopars weren't very strong...Shelby's are always pretty strong. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[SSJunkie68-69]

Chris

By no means was I making light of anyone with an eye problem and completely understand that sometimes you have no choice. I have seen videos of Steve with out the sunglasses and it appears his eyes are working properly.

SSJunkie68-69

[nuch_ss396]

It's interesting! There seems to be quite a lot of
emotional sentiment about this years auction. Someone asked
about being bothered about Ford prices going up. More power
to them. I hated the Ford guys growing up and went after
them all the time. It was that "Genuine GM" thing! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

Well, we do eventually grow up and I even own a couple of
Fords these days. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

The Chevy prices did seem to be down a bit. I'd like to
know more about that. Is it saturation time for BBC's?

Lastly, I'd personally like to know more about the behind
the scenes goings-on that may have happened. Craig Jackson
looked very stiff and uneasy last night. Anyone care to
talk about what they may have seen or heard? Heresay isn't
a problem so long as we know it is heresay......

Steve

[Hylton]

[ QUOTE ]
....How about the older male assistant that kept grabbing the 6 year old son of a major bidder and kept hugging him and holding up for the crowd. Very creepy! It looked like a NAMBLA recruiting photo. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Steve - That scene was unbelieveable! It looked to me like they (BJ et al.) would do anything to milk a stone. I can just imagine what was coming out of the assistants mouth at the time. The kids mom looked disgusted before finally taking her son away from him.

[427king]

[ QUOTE ]
We were watching Barret Jackson...what were you watching ?

[/ QUOTE ] That sums it up pretty well for me Belair. Everyone has thier own opinions based on what they want to believe . Many people want prices to drop so the "investors" will go back to the stock market and there will be more cars and cheaper prices for the "enthusiast" , the only problem with that is, is that the "enthusiast" will still only want to pay half of market price anyway, so most still wont ever buy a car http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[JChlupsa]

Shelby's are always pretty strong. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Guess I need to get the orginal owner out west of you to sell his 70 GT 500 thats all apart in his garage along with 2 garages full of Shelby parts then

[Chris396]

Craig had some major duds. I'm sure he thought the Von Dutch Bus would have sold for at least a million. Some Von Dutch stuff sold for major money earlier this year. The music memorabilia went for almost nothing. The low mile Hemi Cuda's seemed like bargains.

Did anyone notice Carrol Shelby yank the microphone away from the sleazy sunglasses guy? Could that guy fit the car salesman stereotype anymore?

[427king]

[ QUOTE ]
Guess I need to get the orginal owner out west of you to sell his 70 GT 500 thats all apart in his garage along with 2 garages full of Shelby parts then


[/ QUOTE ] Jeff, Got an address??? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

[JChlupsa]

Yes http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[GRB]

I think we all have a basic need to have our likes and dislikes validated by people we respect. That's just human nature. I can assure you I would prize certain cars far more than most of you.

For instance: I bought a barely used cream '67 GTO, auto and no a/c. $2,500.00 It came with the standard styled steel rims and redlines. My buddies called it a girly car back then but I loved that car. It was fun and had just enough power. I later put American ..... seems like they were the old bottle spokes (is that what we called them?) and with the redlines it was a beauty.

If some other nut felt the same way I do and a perfect one rolled on the stage, and of course we would both have done our due diligence, the final selling price would probably shock the hell out you guys! It would hardly be a representative price for '67 GTO's though.

[Dave Rifkin]

During the times that I have watched the BJ auction I've seen many of the big collectors from past years but, couldn't help but notice that "Ralph" (the big guy that was involved in the bidding war for the Future Liner last year with Ron Pratt) has not made an appearance. I guess that whole mix-up with the Future Liner last year didn't sit too well with him.

[x Baldwin Motion]

[ QUOTE ]
Chris

By no means was I making light of anyone with an eye problem and completely understand that sometimes you have no choice. I have seen videos of Steve with out the sunglasses and it appears his eyes are working properly.

SSJunkie68-69

[/ QUOTE ]

it was this remark;

"never, absolutely NEVER, do business with anyone that won't take their sunglasses off, so you can't see the truth in their eyes...."

[Xplantdad]

[ QUOTE ]
I think I can safely say that I have purchased more cars than anyone at this years Barrett-Jackson auction.

[/ QUOTE ]

Charley, congrats on the group purchase of the 116 Corvettes...they look good in the pics...WOW! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[69hurstSC]

well, never mind my question on the 69 black boss 302. seems the guys over at the boss board have a grasp on it. http://www.boss302.com/board/viewthread.php3?FID=2&TID=28923

[427king]

[ QUOTE ]
"never, absolutely NEVER, do business with anyone that won't take their sunglasses off, so you can't see the truth in their eyes...."

[/ QUOTE ] Forget the sunglasses statement, all you have to do is look to your right,then look to your left, and 9 out of every ten on each side of you at BJ would hose you on a car,so let them keep thier glasses on http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Enoch]

All I can add to this is that I have several customers that will step up and pay record prices today for NO BS FACTROY STAMPED FACTORY DOCUMENTED soild lifter big block corvettes. There are VERY FEW that come up in a venue like this. I know of many REAL cars but no one is willing to part with them beacuse the are almost impossible to replace.
I also have a customer who is looking for a 67 gt 500 boss 429 and boss 302 who will be paying a higher price because of this.
So if the bubble has burst or has a slow leak...and anyone wants to sell thier 67 435 Corvette for 100,000.00 let me know I'll buy 10 of them today.
This all boils down to the real cars will always bring very strong prices when selling
It was just last year when B/J was setting record prices and evryone said who will pay these prices, that I posted about some of my customers that paid twice the going price of a restored for a car needing restoration ( but these cars had multiple pieces of factory documentation and born with drivetrains).
Even when things change they still stay the same (if you know what I mean!)
Rich

[COPO]

[ QUOTE ]
During the times that I have watched the BJ auction I've seen many of the big collectors from past years but, couldn't help but notice that "Ralph" (the big guy that was involved in the bidding war for the Future Liner last year with Ron Pratt) has not made an appearance. I guess that whole mix-up with the Future Liner last year didn't sit too well with him.

[/ QUOTE ]

They showed him on TV again this year and said that he was one fo the bidders on the futureliner last year. I think he was the high bidder on at least one of the hemi cars. He certainly kept a lower profile than last year.

[njsteve]

[ QUOTE ]
Chris

By no means was I making light of anyone with an eye problem and completely understand that sometimes you have no choice. I have seen videos of Steve with out the sunglasses and it appears his eyes are working properly.

SSJunkie68-69

[/ QUOTE ]

It's a Dracula thing: He's afraid you'll all see he has no soul. I also noticed that neither he nor Craig Jackson ever appeared standing next to a mirror. What are they afraid of?....I reviewed the entire 40 hours of tape and despite the fact they are standing next to hundreds of cars, you NEVER once see their reflection in the glass. ooooooooooh spooky I say http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[Chris396]

Seeing Craig Jackson turn into a bat and flying away...now that would be great TV!

[2qwik2c]

I'm sorry but the guys doing the commentary on the 68 Impala SS427 convertible are clowns. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif. They are saying there were 68 Caprice SS convertibles with 4 speeds. Very rare. Ya show me one. Morons. These guys should learn a few things before talking about these cars on national TV. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[427king]

Watching BJ and thinking its the true test of muscle car values, is like watching "The girls next door" and thinking Hefner is living the average bachelors life.

[427TJ]

King, stop, you're killing me! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[Rick H]

Values mean nothing to me. It's just a week long car show.

Rick H.

[737Driver]

Quote:
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L88, does anybody know this car? Were there some flaws, or was it bogus, 240 and very lackluster bidding raises a question in my mind.


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Steve, that L88 while advertised to have its OM did not have its original stamp. The bidding was real and TM was on the car at 230K My take on the auction is that the market is becoming more selective and educated and will not open a blank checkbook for a car with issues. While I cannot speak for the e bodied mopars which seemed to down 50% vs last year I can speak for the 67 435 models and the L88 Corvettes. Prices for the 67s were down 20% vs last year but there was not one 435 car that I saw that had its original motor so while prices to the casual observer seem to be lower I believe that it is a reflection of the quality of cars that were present. I know of several recent sales of great 435s and three 69Lss that sold for huge$$$ so I believe that great cars are still selling for big money and will always bring big money. Also I think if the folks at BJ keep raising their commission rates and offer no reserve only auctions that the quality of their consignments will continue to plummett. IMHO

Steve,
People probably are more discriminating these days. I suppose there are exceptions to every rule because I remember when this thing was a pile of parts with only a few being original. Does it have even one major component today that it was born with? It is, I believe, the only L88 known to be delivered with power windows.

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/21/2007-rm-auction-scottsdale-the-first-l88-corvette/

Regards,

Mark

[3macs1]

My heart goes out to a lot of owners who put their heart and sole into their projects and did not even get close to their restoration costs back let alone the purchase price of the car they started with. Be interesting to see if the reserve comes back.

[nuch_ss396]

[ QUOTE ]
I'm sorry but the guys doing the commentary on the 68 Impala SS427 convertible are clowns. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif. They are saying there were 68 Caprice SS convertibles with 4 speeds. Very rare. Ya show me one. Morons. These guys should learn a few things before talking about these cars on national TV. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Andrew,

Two years ago, I sent a rather lengthy e-mail to Craig Jackson
via. the B-J website. I strongly suggested that
they hire mfgr. specific knowledgeable commentators so each
car could be better reviewed to the TV audience. Caprice SS! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

No offense to the current on-air staff, but most of these
guys ask more questions than they answer. Maybe we are
just too critical because we know some of these cars better.
I'd like to see a Chevy expert, a Ford expert, Mopar expert,
etc. if that could possibly be arranged. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Steve

[Norm reynolds]

There is no drought that Crag Jackson will be forced to bring back the reserve

I would not want to be crag Jackson Last night
He must of gotten ear full
Yes you could see that a lot of cars did not make what the seller had in it Just look at the 68 Hemi Charger and the Theme bike of OCC If I remember right both sold for around 185.000 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gifI would bet they had that just in the bike
I know it did not help when Paul senor said Dhoo dhoo it had spark plugs in the head doho aha it is really fast ah-ah rock in roll http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif should have kept his mouth shut

[nuch_ss396]

Norm,

If you are unfortunate enough to watch one of their shows,
that is about the extent of his vocabulary. Oh yeah,
F-this & F-that too. Forgot about those gems. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Steve

[Norm reynolds]

No I have watched the show His oldest son Paul jr has a real good talent
The father all he does is sleep in his office and comes out every now and them screaming and yelling F this and F that He really slows his son down with his kiddy act
I feel it was not his son being so good the father would still be welding fences
And not have the money they have I all ways thought the father was a lazy moron

[2qwik2c]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I'm sorry but the guys doing the commentary on the 68 Impala SS427 convertible are clowns. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif. They are saying there were 68 Caprice SS convertibles with 4 speeds. Very rare. Ya show me one. Morons. These guys should learn a few things before talking about these cars on national TV. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Andrew,

Two years ago, I sent a rather lengthy e-mail to Craig Jackson
via. the B-J website. I strongly suggested that
they hire mfgr. specific knowledgeable commentators so each
car could be better reviewed to the TV audience. Caprice SS! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

No offense to the current on-air staff, but most of these
guys ask more questions than they answer. Maybe we are
just too critical because we know some of these cars better.
I'd like to see a Chevy expert, a Ford expert, Mopar expert,
etc. if that could possibly be arranged. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Steve

[/ QUOTE ]


Steve,

I agree with your idea. I don't expect the commentators to know everything about every car that goes over the block but when they talk about a car being very rare that was never ever even produced I mean come on. Too funny. Maybe will see a 68 caprice ss convert 4 speed at next years BJ???? LOL. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[ANDY M]

Lighten up, guys. Most cars cross the block in less time than a commercial break takes. Re-read some of the posts complaining about missing a car being sold like that. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
For some strange reason, I like the tag-team announcer idea. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif
Considering how long those poor guys have to stand around babbling about all these different kinds of makes and models, it's hard to believe anybody could stay coherent for that many hours. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
As the Walrus said, Rock and Roll. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

[427king]

[ QUOTE ]
There is no drought that Crag Jackson will be forced to bring back the reserve



[/ QUOTE ] It would be pointless to bring back the reserve and keep the current high commissions. They have to do both. they might even want to have a "buy it now" price for those who want to ensure they get the car before they can get outbid. My guess is if you are looking for a rare documented car or are selling one,you will go to Mecum, its going to be the new BJ. And no im not an expert, but i did sleep in a Holiday Inn Express last night. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif

[71-LS6]

[ QUOTE ]
Norm,

If you are unfortunate enough to watch one of their shows,
that is about the extent of his vocabulary. Oh yeah,
F-this & F-that too. Forgot about those gems. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Steve

[/ QUOTE ]

So by deleting the all-purpose (noun adjective verb pronoun adverb preposition.....) F WORD, the Walrus was rendered speechless? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[TDW]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Norm,

If you are unfortunate enough to watch one of their shows,
that is about the extent of his vocabulary. Oh yeah,
F-this & F-that too. Forgot about those gems. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Steve

[/ QUOTE ]

So by deleting the all-purpose (noun adjective verb pronoun adverb preposition.....) F WORD, the Walrus was rendered speechless? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

That sums it up pretty good. He is a hammer wielding goon.

[quick-bowtie]

I know a few guys lost huge huge money last night.. Its the chance you take if your doing this for investment/job and most know that. What REALLY pisses me off is that the fact Craig himself was hyping up a couple cars saying they were good cars and extremely undervalued blah blah blah, when infact they were well known piles of crap! its all about who you know and how good of a blo* job you can give PERIOD. I saw a lot of shady stuff this weekend and really dont know if I personally will sell there again. It seems MONEY is the only thing that runs that circus 10% buyer commission this year?? when is enough enough?? I think you'll see Mecum steal the spot light coming up soon.. Much more of a TRUE HOBBIST and down to earth guy and..granted he makes money too but he isnt out to make you bleed like Barrett. There is NO way Barrett will ever see another QUALITY LEGIT car again valued at more than 250k unless they bring back the reserve..and even then I think this year left a very sour taste in the mouths of many. I cant wait to see Palm Beach.. Im sure glad I didnt consign anything there. Just think if you had a 600k car there and it only brought 400k to buy your own car back would be $72,000 that is insane and if you didnt do it you would lose 200k. That auction is hurting for next year unless they get smart or just sell junk.. Cars that blew my mind were

Motion Race car.
OCC Charger/Bike
Ohlers 71 Hemi Challenger
68 Yenko Camaro
basically to many to list..

[Jeff H]

I saw signs last year that looked like they were at their peak and starting to lose it. This year proves that BJ is not where you want to sell your car. R&S and Mecum will probably have a banner year after this fiasco. Watching them rush the BM Corvette across the block last year pointed out to me what was really going on. 18% commission to keep your own car explains it all.

[DarrenX33]

While watching the auction over the weekend and seeing all of the stars and people come forward to donate to worthy causes such as the CNN Hummer. This discussion came up with a friend. Craig and his crew did a great job of getting the most out of the bidders on these items. And bless them for being so generous. But wouldn't it have been nice to hear Craig or his president come forward and contribute, offer some sort of matching or donate commission on the sale? Perhaps he has contributed in ways that I am not aware of. If so I apologize, but he had one hell of a weekend ($). Would have been nice to see him step up. Kinda made me sick thinking about it... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Regarding the Motion car.. I love them but they just don't seem to do well at auction for some reason...

[quick-bowtie]

I should mention that although I dont agree with some ofthe stuff I saw and heard Craig does raise alot of money for some great charity's and also pulls if a few guys like Shelby and Edsel that also take in a great deal for there cause which is great. I had a fun time although the weather wasnt the best it was great meeting a few guys from the site and hanging out wit Bruce for the day..AND KICKING HIS BUTT IN GO KART RACING!! LOL.. Bruce close only counts in horse shoes buddie.. We'll definately have to go a second round in the near future..

[Xplantdad]

Andy...you're on! If you wouldn't have spun out and caused me to crash broadsided into you at 30mph...all you would have seen was the back of my cart! LOL As it was...all I needed was another lap http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

It was great hanging with you too, Andy. Now go home and hug both of your kids http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif


Darren, Lynn and I had the same discussion, too...though the Childhelp Gala before B-J and various other functions that they don't ever talk about raise lots of $$$....

[Norm reynolds]

Quick Bow tie that’s what I heard from some one last night
I know He was told in uncertain terms late
last night that If he wants the high caliper cars and the owner/buyers to return He will be forced to return the reserve
If not We can expect the B/J auction become nothing more Than breathing ground to
Unload bogus / fake and anything goes type of car. Sad in a way he got to greedy
This year there are a lot of unhappy campers that lost a lot of money
with Crag Jackson
Hell last night there was unloading pianos Guitars and in the end Sunday they are unloading soap box Debby type cars something I just did not want to see
Don’t be surprised in the next few months there will be a lot a negativity written
About this years show . if there is no change and if he is so bull headed about no reserve
Then I think many people will just not even bother with it next year

[Norm reynolds]

By the way what happen behind the scène http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif late last night
Rumored has it looked like something from WWF http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[L30M20]

Ok everyone, here you go, from the Official BJ site of cars listed and sales results: I took each car (69 Camaro) from the site, added and divided accordingly. There were 38 total 1969 Camaros listed on their site, the total sales price(s) of these 38 cars EXCLUDING COMMISIONS were $4,491,050.00 or AVERAGE price of $118,185.52. If you remove the Motion car (not roadable) and Reggies zl-1 the total for the 36 cars (38-2)is $88,641.66. I think both of these numbers are a fair average for what went through. Many were clones, and small block cars (z-28's ) Why are we worried about values anyway, it's just a HOBBY, right? The sky is not falling, chicken little............ Craig

[MosportGreen66]

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While watching the auction over the weekend and seeing all of the stars and people come forward to donate to worthy causes such as the CNN Hummer. This discussion came up with a friend. Craig and his crew did a great job of getting the most out of the bidders on these items. And bless them for being so generous. But wouldn't it have been nice to hear Craig or his president come forward and contribute, offer some sort of matching or donate commission on the sale? Perhaps he has contributed in ways that I am not aware of. If so I apologize, but he had one hell of a weekend ($). Would have been nice to see him step up. Kinda made me sick thinking about it... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Regarding the Motion car.. I love them but they just don't seem to do well at auction for some reason...

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Darren, I had heard the announcers say Craig donated or waved the commissions fees.

[kwhizz]

Another one that surprised me was Oehlers Gibb Nova.....it was bid up to $230,000 at Spring Mecum and was a No Sale.......I heard he wanted $275,000 for it.......It Sold Saturday for $160,000 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif........Denis missed a good one.....a Perfect Restoration by Wayne Bushey

Ken http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[Mr70]

That one was a show stopper for me too Ken.
I would imagine John bought it back??..I know I would've.

[sYc]

Ken, seems it makes a difference what type of car is sold where. At Mecum the majority of cars there were either muscle cars or race cars, which meant bidders there understoood, and appreciated, what they were bidding on.

On the other hand, BJ is a mix of everything.

[427king]

Plus Dana Mecum is a true car enthusiast that fully understands 20% commission and no reserve aint gonna work.

[x Baldwin Motion]

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...On the other hand, BJ is a mix of everything.

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when the piano came out, I thought the dog stepped on the remote !! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[DarrenX33]

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Darren, I had heard the announcers say Craig donated or waved the commissions fees.

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Got it. Guess it was easy to miss with all of us yellin'. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[quick-bowtie]

Id like to hear more about the WWF stuff.. I had vip access and heard a few guys talking that had some drinks in them and werent happy campers..cant really blame anyone unless they were promised something..

You guys might goof and big Paul but I dont think I want to tangle with him (he a pitbull with some big guns and a wild past) I actually got to talk with Paul Jr. he is one talented guy. Also meet Foose and Chuck Zito..

Zito was a very cool guy to talk to..definately another guy I wouldnt want to piss off, He has one of the best looking Gasser Style 57 Chevys Ive seen.. I tried to get him to sell it to me..No luck though.

[COPO PETE]

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Darren, I had heard the announcers say Craig donated or waved the commissions fees.

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So he donated the commission fee on a charity item???? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif
Maybe he should have donated some of his own money!
Peter http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[quick-bowtie]

Here is a link to the Mopar site.. this could get interesting.


http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...;gonew=1#UNREAD (http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=3233818&an=0&page=0&gone w=1#UNREAD)