Raised Front End

[mudjnky]

When the spring spacers were used to raise the front end, how much higher did they make it? I am ordering new coils for the front of our 68 Camaro and not sure if I should go 1.5 or 2 inches over stock. Thanks in advance!

[WILMASBOYL78]

Scott, I do't think there was a set amount, but I can tell you from experience...1" is a lot. We put 1" taller than stock BB springs in a 70 Nova SS...Made by Eaton..original GM style...and they were a bear to install...kinda like holding on to bomb! I will try top post a photo...front tires in pic are F70 x 15 vintage polys..

wilma

[mudjnky]

Thats the look I'm going for, not quite that high though. That looks like a whole lot more than an inch! I thought there was a thread on spacers, but I can't find it.

[mudjnky]

Wilma, Were the springs supposed to change the ride height 1 inch or were they 1 inch longer? Did you measure the ride height difference? In the picture I'd have to guess its raised 2 to 3 inches over stock.

[WILMASBOYL78]

I didn't measure the before and after...car had stock 14" wheels with normal tires....there were also spring spacers in the old coils to help support the frt end due to old age...do you have a BB car..??? I can check some of the other cars and see what the stock ride height is....remember I also have 15" wheels...I'm thinkng about lowering it back down a little..came out higher than expected...we could probably check with Eaton on my order and scale it back a little..

wilma

[Salvatore]

I would talk to Heartbeat City and see what Jim Stubbing has to offer on this matter. I would leave the stock springs in with a little sag before I would go to all this work and not be totally happy with the height. JMO Sam http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[kwhizz]

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I would talk to Heartbeat City and see what Jim Stubbing has to offer on this matter. I would leave the stock springs in with a little sag before I would go to all this work and not be totally happy with the height. JMO Sam http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

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What he "Said".............. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Ken http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[mockingbird812]

Wilma,

That is one wicked and sinister knuckle-dragger. Whatcha' got under the hood? Nice look!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/mockingbird812/254785-tn_IMG_0625.jpg

[WILMASBOYL78]

70 402/375hp... origial 32,000 mile engine/cam, TH400,...added a 163 hi-rise, 850VS, headers, 2 1/2" exhaust, 4.56 posi. I recently installed new valve springs and hardware along with DR chain....only weak link in these motors is the valves http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Car has a lot of the Day 2 stuff: traction bars, gauges, finned diff. cover, airshocks, etc....wheels are 15 x 6 up front with F70's..rears are 15 x 7 with H70's..original polyglas from the day(thanks Donny!)...it is a monster to drive...car is on it's way to FL for the Nova Mini-Nats in Kissimmee..


wilma http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Salvatore]

Needs a set of vintage wheels for those vintage tires. The first thing anybody ever changed in the old days was the wheels you dope! The first thing! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[mockingbird812]

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Needs a set of vintage wheels for those vintage tires. The first thing anybody ever changed in the old days was the wheels you dope! The first thing! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

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Those wheels are juuuuuusssst right. Can't tip your hand to the competition, ya know http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif ! Nice set up Tom. What kind of exhaust/mufflers do you have? Or, are you just runnin' strait headers!!!!

[RamAirDave]

Heres a 69 Z, in 1972. BB front springs, rear air shocks, because thats how he liked the stance.

Now that its been frame-offed, it still sits on the same springs, and the rally's still dont have rings/caps http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/RamAirDave/GoldZ/GoldZ72Rear.jpg

Installed the front springs on the bare subframe without any issue, but after the car was together, thought it might have a BB spring. Previous owner confirmed it.

[WILMASBOYL78]

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Needs a set of vintage wheels for those vintage tires. The first thing anybody ever changed in the old days was the wheels you dope! The first thing! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

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Hey Sammy.....sit on it...! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

wilma

[kwhizz]

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Needs a set of vintage wheels for those vintage tires. The first thing anybody ever changed in the old days was the wheels you dope! The first thing! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

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Hey Sammy.....sit on it...! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

wilma

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Hey! Tom..........Keep the ball down the middle........Don't let Karen beat you too bad....LOL

Enjoy your trip

Ken

(Tell Wayne he still owes me one rim)

[Keith Tedford]

From the experiences of myself and friends, new springs in general will raise the car the best part of an inch. Our '72 Lemans Sport was supposed to be getting stock replacement springs and it still hasn't settled to where I would like it to be. A friend's big block Chevelle was the same. Perhaps some of the aftemarket handling kits might have springs that give a more accurate ride height. Ours were from a local spring shop.

[WILMASBOYL78]

Karen is not going on this road trip...but I still have some golf lined up...gonna play thursday and fri am....Sully is stopping by on fri to visit the show...hope the weather is nice....


wilma http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

(I know about your wheel....it's coming from my stash...I'll double check with wayne and maybe get it sent to you when I get back)

[VintageMusclecar]

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Needs a set of vintage wheels for those vintage tires. The first thing anybody ever changed in the old days was the wheels you dope! The first thing! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

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Nooo....... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

The black steelies are perfect on that car!

All it needs is a set of dog dish caps and to drop the nose just a tad...you'd have the ultimate "sleeper" look. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

That car is so cool its not funny. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Tom--any chance you'd be willing to grab a tape measure and give me the height & width of those Goodyears? I'm thinkin' something like that might look good on my bucket of bolts.

Eric

[mudjnky]

The car has a BB with a cross ram. I am trying do a day 2 look with it. I want to lift the front end whatever the distance the aluminum spacers did, only using just a spring. The place I called had springs based on ride height not spring length. I know there was a thread on the spacers with pictures, but, still can't find it. I will probably run a 205 or 215.75.14 Redline on the front.

[WILMASBOYL78]

Those old school knuckle type spacers fit in the coils and you locked them by turning with a ratchet...raised it up about 1/2"....my old 70 had several in each front spring..I think 15" tires will look better with the raised suspension...the perfect 68 to look at is Mark Hassett's 68 Motion car..that was the look I was going for.....car looks like it is ready to pounce..and with that L88...it is!!

wilma http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[mudjnky]

That's the look I want. I'm not talking about those little blocks that screw into the spring. It was a spacer that fit under the spring.

[ORIGLS6]

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...the perfect 68 to look at is Mark Hassett's 68 Motion car..that was the look I was going for.....car looks like it is ready to pounce..and with that L88...it is!!

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Too true, but this Nova is Killer!

The Black '70 and the Orange Cooler are perfect just as they are! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[WILMASBOYL78]

Yes, they are very cool.....and they will soon have new member of the family to keep them company....more to follow.

wilma http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[JoeG]

Yep--the 15" tires fill in the gap better than 14" wheels when lifted all around. Your front to rear pitch may-be the angled look your lookin for....Car looks like it has no manners at all and doesn't care... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[mockingbird812]

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Yep--the 15" tires fill in the gap better than 14" wheels when lifted all around. Your front to rear pitch may-be the angled look your lookin for....Car looks like it has no manners at all and doesn't care... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

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Couldn't have said it better myself, Joe. Right on!
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[mudjnky]

OK, I finally found the thread with the spacers in it. Looks like they raise the car about an inch. Anyone have these?
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat...true#Post216504 (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB10&Number=216504&Search page=1&Main=216149&Words=spacer&topic=&Search=true #Post216504)

[John Brown]

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Check out the ex manifold in the pictures!! Sure looks like a Corvette exhaust manifold that "doesn't fit" a Camaro....... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Salvatore]

Ditch the steelies for this application. NO ONE ran them in those days. At least a set of Chrome reverse if you are out of money! Looks like an old Mennonite car from the farm with those wheels on it. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif Hey Eric.....I thought you were on my side. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[WILMASBOYL78]

Sammy...it's just a workingman's ratrod...if you want to donate a set of wheels we will try them on for size....by the way, you did say that you were going to "every show this year"....thought the boys should know to be expecting ya.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif


wilma

[Salvatore]

Yea, but I lie!! Besides when did you become a working man? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif I have a brand new pair of 15X5 chrome reverse that would help that car out alot. I will trade you for them.

[mockingbird812]

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Yea, but I lie!! Besides when did you become a working man? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif I have a brand new pair of 15X5 chrome reverse that would help that car out alot. I will trade you for them.

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Yeah Wilma, you might as well put those cool neon lights under the car coupled with those shiny chrome reverse wheels to make sure your presence is known!

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

Sorry, could not resist........... Stealth is where its at. Speak softly and carry a big "RAT"! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

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