70 Chevelle Muncier shifter bench or bucket seat?

[SuperNovaSS]

I have a 70 Chevelle Muncie 4 speed shifter on Ebay now. I thought it was for a bench seat after a google search but many bidders have told me it is for bucket seats. I thought I would check here before updating the auction. The number on the handle is 3973867. Does anyone know what this shifter is correct for? The auction can be found here: 70 Muncie shifter (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=015&sspagename=STRK%3AME SE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=250087569776)


Thanks,


Jason

[WILMASBOYL78]

Judging by the short rise on the handle it appears to be a console shifter....this look is similar on the Novas....the bench seat handles were generally taller and had a more gentle sweep to fit the seat contour....chevelle experts may have diff views, but it looks like the same deal as the novas...hope that helps..

wilma

[ORIGLS6]

I agree. The one pictured is for a buckseat car.
I have a Chevelle bench seat unit but it's buried in my trailer somewhere. Totally different shape. More like the old Hurst stick for the '55 - '57 Chevys.

[SuperNovaSS]

Great, thanks for the info. I will update the auction.


Jason

[Rainer]

Bench seat handle is an 864, and the 867 is for console applications.

[Mr70]

That shifter handle was originally used on a Bucketseat /Manual Trans./NO CONSOLE Super Sport Chevelle/Elco in 1970,and also ALL 1971-72 SS 350 Chevelle/Elco.
I think a Bucketseat/Manual Trans./NO CONSOLE Big Block 71 Super Sport Chevelle/Elco could have come with it too.
I believe bucket seat/consoled equipped used the #865 handle,and bench seat used #866.

[Rick Cell]

The #867 is what they used in the 70 Chevelle with bucket seats with or without console.

[P.J.]

I agree with Rick We discussed this before.
PJ

[Mr70]

I think Rick Cell is right,there were only two designs used.Looking at a few local equipped Chevelles,as well as parts books,here is what I believe they did.
Regardless of engine,the 3 & 4-speed 1968-72 Bucket seat console AND NO Console equipped Chevelle/Elco/MonteC used Muncie shifter #3973867 which is stamped on the shifter foot itself,but Chevrolet parts books see this as shifter #3973866...(GM has history of doing this with parts in the past.Like the 1970 Malibu Tail Lenses,Flywheels and Ignition Coils.The actual manufacturered part itself will show a one digit difference,be it up or down,from what GM parts books & boxes actually callout for.)...The 1970-72 3 & 4-speed equipped,(1968-69 were different),Chevelle/Elco/MonteC Bench seat applications used Muncie #3973864,which is stamped on the shifter foot,yet the parts books call out for #3973865.This is also compared and noted in the AIM.

Why some shifters say MUNCIE along with a part #,and others are void of one or both,is a good question.Could they be over the counter issued,Saginaw only or later service parts?

[SuperNovaSS]

I believe Muncie one say Muncie while Saginaw ones do not have the stamping.


Jason

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Rick,

Do you have the Nova part numbers and applications?

[Mr70]

Muncie shifter #3920248 used on:
*1968-70 Chevy II 3 Spd.Heavy Duty & w/o Floor console.
*1971-72 Nova 3 Spd w/floor shift.
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*1968 Chevy II w/4 Spd & Floor shift.
*1969-70 Nova 4 Spd,but NO Floor console.
*1971-72 Nova 4 Spd.


Muncie shifter #3934288 used on:
*1967-68 Camaro 3 Spd.w/floor shift.
*1968 Chevy II 3 Spd. w/floor console.
*1969-71 Nova 3 Spd. w/floor console.
*1969 Camaro 3 Spd. Heavy duty.
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*1967-68 Camaro 4 Spd.w/floor shift.
*1969-70 Nova 4 Spd. w/floor console.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

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[3macs1]

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h215/JoesCars/shifterhandles.jpg

You guys keep forgetting the Big chevys had muncies also and they probally get more confused with chevelle shifters than any others.Here is chevelle/impala console and bench pretty easy to see why they get mixed up.I have seen more impala handles less part numbers than with one. Also just because a handle does not say muncie on it does not garantee it was not originally installed on one.We have seen over the counter replacements plain and quite a few on caprices for some reason plain but all had muncies.

[ORIGLS6]

The one on the far right looks like what was in my bench seat '68 Chevelle, and the same as the one I mentioned here earlier.

[3macs1]

That if I remember right is a 864 out of a 70 chevelle bench.
I know they have a different part number for 68/69 but they don't look any different to me from 68-72. Not sure what the difference may be for the part number change.