My .02 on the for sale section

[Fast67VelleN2O]

I have a question regarding the "Cars For Sale" section. My ebay auction for the GTO that i have for sale was removed because there was "no price listed". Well anyone who has ever been involved in this hobby knows what ebay is all about and how it works. To remove my for sale ad because i would not list a price for the car or reveal the reserve is just rediculous. Some people like to sell their parts locally, some people like to advertise in the local papers or internet, and some people like to list on ebay. To remove some for sale ads not others over a price not being listed in the ad is just not right for the guy who likes to use ebay as a sales option.
I know i am new here but i have been in this hobby for years and anyone who knows me on this site can attest to that. It is just my .02 on this issue. Feel free to comment feel free to bash me just callin it like i see it.

[x Baldwin Motion]

what was your question?

here are the regs posted in the for sale section;

All ads MUST include the following:
price - ad must include price
contact info - whether it be email or phone number

Also, I would GREATLY appreciate that ALL members of this bulletin board fill out their profile info with their real name, location, and contact info, but this is imperitive for those wanting to post in the for sale section!"

looks like those regs have been there for a few years, I'm new also.
When in Rome........... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[camarojoe]

If you want to use ebay, use ebay. Ebay doesn't make you reveal your reserve price, nor list a buy it now price if you don't want to. If you want to list it here, be it an ebay link or a simple for sale ad... it needs a price. It's a simple enough concept for most to understand, and weeds out all the "fishing" expeditions. Bottom line is, you obviously have a price you will sell the car for, so post it. I never really understood why the asking price of a car should be a big secret anyhow, especially if you actually want to sell it.

[427.060]

There are members here list their Ebay auctions with no price listed and nothing is said. The listed rules need to apply to everyone. I asked about this same thing a couple days ago.
James

[budnate]

if its for sale you have a idea what you want for it, so put a price on it, it's a simple concept, then a guy knows up front if its in his price range or not, and hopefully not waste both parties time.

and people should keep there cake holes shut about a items price unless it is being advertised totally wrong or misleading, let a guys add run in peace.


now if your truly going fishing with a item for sale take it to auction and see what happens.


I don't prescribe to playing games, price it fair and they will come. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[427.060]

Here is the link to an ad that is listed now with no prices listed for the auctions.
James

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/265380/an/0/page/0#265380

[Rixls6]

I think a rule should also be made that says you can't list a part for sale on someone else's For Sale ad, that is the same type of item for a lesser price.

I won't mention any names, but this happened to me awhile back here. Then my part for sale never even gets a look.

[Charley Lillard]

427.060... Those were all no reserve auctions with the opening bid price listed. To me that means the price is his opening bid or whatever the bidding ends up at. I don't see why anyone wanting to list their item here has a problem with also listing the reserve. As far as I know the request for everything to be priced is preferred by most of the members here.

[427.060]

Charley, thanks for the response but that is not what Belair said a couple days ago when I questioned why he removed an ad for a 70 Corvette. It was a no reserve auction and Belair told the seller to list a price. I asked if a price was required since there was no reserve and was told "yes". The next day the ad was gone. Here is a link to the auction.
James

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1970-CHEV...1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1970-CHEVROLET-CORVETTE-350-350HP-4-SPEED-CONVERTIBLE_W0QQitemZ260105755126QQihZ016QQcategor yZ6168QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

[SS427]

I think just as important as listing a price is not to come here just to take advantage of the free add space, screw the members (some of the people) and then leave. If you want to sell here, join or send the sYc a donation for allowing you to sell your item here at a profit. Many of the guys have offered free freight to an sYc member as well as a donation and that is great. However, too many people are coming here for the sole purpose of placing the add, selling it to someone but never responding to all the others who have replied and then they are never heard from again. An equal number of people have played games with several of the members here as well and after much investigation, I think at least one of them was someone wanting to scam some of the members out of their money. One such guy "sold" his parts to several of us at the same time. I set the guy up and pretty much proved he was doing something misleading yet his adds remainded even after my complaints. After some personal contact, he is now gone. Good ridence! I say again, join or give a donation (same thing) and sell all you want. If you are too cheap to do that then go somewhere else. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
Rick

[P.J.]

Rules are rules and they should apply to everryone. If you
are going to let non members post adds then the least we should expect from them is to abide by the rules.
PJ

[Motion Camaro]

<font color="blue">So, what's the big deal.
Put your reserve price ....
Put higher than your reserve....
Put "or best offer" ....
Just put something &amp; get on with the sale. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif </font>

[Late BrakeU2]

Just food for thought some of the other car sites I am a member of require a minimum posting history(usually 20-50)before you are permitted in the for sale section.For the infrequent posters a minimum membership time could also be used.It allows a potential buyer to peruse the sellers posting history and get perhaps a better feel for the person.
Kinda like considering buying something from a joined today zero feedback v 100% eight year rated individual.

[Charley Lillard]

Me and Belair don't always see eye to eye. I didn't pull the ad and wouldn't have. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/BelairSucks.gif

[427king]

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Me and Belair don't always see eye to eye

[/ QUOTE ] You would if he was standing on a table...

[BBIGG BLOCK 396]

To all the people that post items for sale and do not put a price. Most are non members,there has been talk that possibly non members should have to become members to post for sale adds! Not a problem just make a donation and become a member.The bottom line is the rule says post an add and post the price.If you have that add on Ebay and it goes above your site asking price then the site asking price looses out to the higher e bay price. Non members have it made being able to post adds at this time and need to obey the rules before the rules change from being FREE! Personally I have sold all my junk nd nobody on here is interested in MOPARS so I don't have things for sale. But You are welcomed to this site being a member or not and you have privileges being a member or not,abuse the priveleges and then they may change the rules.I have always been a FIRM believer that if you post a for sale add you need a $$$$ PRICE so people will know automatically if it is within there $$$$ BUDGET! Have a nice day and donate to SYC!

[Hylton]

I would like to see the Classified sections available to paid members only.

[Hylton]

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Me and Belair don't always see eye to eye

[/ QUOTE ] You would if he was standing on a table...

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Ouch!!!

[Belair62]

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I would like to see the Classified sections available to paid members only.

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Probably a good idea...but really it's quite simpl,e..either PUT A FRIGGIN PRICE ON YOUR AD or don't put a For Sale ad here. I will be forced to send 427king on his camel to enforce this from now on.

[Stefano]

So what exactly are you saying?

[Fast67VelleN2O]

Well looks like i won't be posting anything else for sale. Thanks for the input guys and i wasn't trying to start any big arguements.

[Motion Camaro]

<font color="blue"> again ...

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and thank you for calling SYC ... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif
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3 times in a row .... this is great http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif </font>

[Hylton]

I just think limiting the Classifieds to paid members ads a level of reponsibility and illiminates the unethical person who couldn't care less about Yenko.net as long as they got their sale.

[SS427]

Like it or not, the club is a business with paid "customers" (members) and needs them to offset the operating costs, shows, advertising, etc. It is very disheartening when a "non customer" comes here and uses our club for their sole <font color="red"> </font> benefit without contributing anything to the clubs existence. I am not saying that everyone should be a member and actually don't think that would be right to force someone to do that. I am a "member" of a lot of internet clubs without paying dues but if I use those clubs to advertize parts I will join that club which I feel is only fair. What am I getting for my dues here that a non member does not if I do not get any privilages. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif I want the club to remain and therefore feel it is only fair to contribute to that club to help maintain that.

My biggest complaint are the ones that show up, advertise, never respond to all the people that inquire about their parts and then leave. Get the hell out of here if you cannot respond to a simple e-mail from someone TRYING to buy your part. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
Rick

[Hylton]

Beauty post Rick! I totally agree.

[CT Mark]

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It is very disheartening when a "non customer" comes here and uses our club for their sole <font color="red"> </font> benefit without contributing anything to the clubs existence.

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I don't have a dog in this poker game but the person that gets the part they need also benefits here....right? If you eliminate non-members, you are going to have a smaller inventory of parts &amp; cars. The non-members will be forced to e-bay.

[WILMASBOYL78]

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It is very disheartening when a "non customer" comes here and uses our club for their sole <font color="red"> </font> benefit without contributing anything to the clubs existence.

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I don't have a dog in this poker game but the person that gets the part they need also benefits here....right? If you eliminate non-members, you are going to have a smaller inventory of parts &amp; cars. The non-members will be forced to e-bay.

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I think that the most important benefit of this site is the exchange of information and knowledge...selling cars or parts is really a secondary issue to me. The tech/resto section always has interesting stuff....there is a very high rate of first time posts that involve selling something..sellers should have to be paid members or perhaps we should look at what they do on the Team sites with a members only sales section..???

You are either part of the problem or part of the solution....

wilma http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[427king]

Ive always said that parts for sale are an important part to any website. The problem is that most people that are not members post parts for sale to go fishing for a value. Ive not seen too many cases nor have i personally bought anything from a first time member,in some cases they list a part they dont even have yet, and by the reaction they get here they will know whether they shuld go and buy it.Big waste of time. 25.00 is not a big cost to join if you can come here and learn something about a part that makes you 2000.00 on a sale.

[SS427]

Mark,
I did not state that "non members" should be eliminated. As a matter of fact, many of those same people bring a wealth of information to the site and we have lost some of the best. What I said in short was, if you are only coming here for the sole purpose of selling your part and leaving without contributing to the clubs longevity then please take your business somewhere else. Most of those clowns that have done that have stiffed a lot of people here. Whether you are a paid member or not does not make you immune from getting taken advantage of. I have nothing against readers being non members and as recently as last week I was one of them.

Do these same people expect to go to a local car club show and get a swap space to sell their parts at no charge especially if they were none club members? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
Rick

[Hylton]

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I don't have a dog in this poker game but the person that gets the part they need also benefits here....right? If you eliminate non-members, you are going to have a smaller inventory of parts &amp; cars. The non-members will be forced to e-bay.

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....or they can just get off their wallets and cough up $25 bucks. I guarantee you one thing, the membership cost is a whole lot cheaper than the E-bay commissions!