70 Chevelle LS6 Just Found Any Info

[JOESTOYBOX]

This is my first time posting on this site, though I frequent it often. Last night I came across a car in barn, just outside Chicago. I was asked to go look at the car, and I didn’t leave until I had the car. The farmer inherited the car 20+ years ago. He was going to put it together and like some he got married, had kids and the car just sat. The guy didn’t know what the car was. He thought it was Malibu and not an SS because of the door panel emblems saying “Malibu”. The dash has not been taken out and has the original 6500 tach in it. It has also been off the road since 1974. I was quickly going through the car this morning and came across an E.T. slip from Rockford Drag Way, which I believe was closed in the 70’s. There was also a sticker in the window that said River Grove 1972. I also found a business card in the glove box from Nickey Chicago, the guys name on the car was Andy Witt. Does anybody know who this is? If he is still alive he may remember this car… I started taking the passenger side armrest out, but haven’t got the rear seat pulled out, trying to find the build sheet. I will dig in deeper later tonight when I get home. What I guess I am asking for is, if anyone may know of this car from the 70’s? Is it a famous race car??? Probably not, but it is worth the question. It’s going to be restored or I may sell it, but if I restore it is going to need the same lettering on it as when it was a racecar. The car is blue with a blue vinyl top and blue cloth interior. It still has the plastic on the seat and even on the sun visors. It was originally a 4-spd and they put an automatic in it. On the back quarters it says “Sudden Action” and the trunk lid reads “If you got it, flaunt it!” I attached pictures as well. Any info would be greatly appreciated… Thanks, Joe

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[SS427]

Neat car Joe. I would be more than happy to try and help as would others who may remember the car. You might also try doing a search by dragstrip name as there are now a lot of sites out there that have vintage photos. I personally do not remember seeing the car on any pages back in the day.

Can you take a picture of the VIN and code stamping on the deck and e-mail it to me along with cowl tag info and rear end stamping? I can do some research from there.

If the car is what you say it is and depending on the plant which is likely a Leeds plant, there is still likely a build sheet in the car. I can also help you locate that info.

You might also want to contact one of our sponsors, www.nickeychicago.net (http://www.nickeychicago.net) and speak with Stefano to see if he can help on the Nickey part of it.

Possibly a great find! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
Rick

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SEATS

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BACK SEAT

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TACH

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BATTERY BOX...

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[SS427]

I was right on my assumtion of the build plant and based on "L" on the cowl tag it appears to be an SS though that is only speculation at this time. If this car has been unmolested as it appears and based on the build date I would bet there are at least 3 sheets in that car. One in the front seat back (push on the seat back and you may feel it on the drivers side), one in the bottom rear seat and one in the passengers front fender and there may be more as I have found them in other places on Leeds cars as well. It is VERY rare that they are not in these locations on the Leeds cars around that date.
Rick

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[SS427]

Rear window defogger to boot! Nice times on the time slip! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

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[Bill Pritchard]

Joe,

Rockford Dragway is also known as Byron Dragway, still operational today. Car looks great, nice find http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif Gotta love the plastic seat covers on a drag car http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[MosportGreen66]

Such a cool find! I would leave as is... Day-2 100%

Congrats! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

-Dan

[JOESTOYBOX]

I started looking for the build sheet last night; I took the bench seat out and looked underneath but didn’t see anything. I think somebody suggested I look behind the cover, I guess that requires removing the hog rings??? It would be nice to find the build shield, it’s when you need to find the build you can’t, but when you don’t need the build sheet you find it. For instance, my 1970 W-30 I got out of Canada that I got the documentation from Canada on. I pulled the seat out; which the car itself had more mice than Carter had liver pills, I found the build sheet right away. I am going to have to do some more work looking this weekend.

[Lino]

This car was definitley on the road past 1974. It belonged to a neighbor of mine into the 80's. It ran on the streets with an alcohol injected big block. I have a photo of the car in front of my house in 1981, but need to scan and post. I will forward this to him.He may want to see it again.

[Stefano]

Joseph,
Is this your first time looking for a build sheet in a Chevelle? I see you restore cars as a hobby and I am surprised it has taken this long for you to look?

I know that many if us are waiting in anticipation.

Good luck.

PS. It would be nice for members to fully identify themselves. There might be quite a few Yenko.net members in your area, that would be more than willing to lend a helping hand.

[SS427]

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PS. It would be nice for members to fully identify themselves. There might be quite a few Yenko.net members in your area, that would be more than willing to lend a helping hand.

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....and some have already offered to help and got absolutely no response in return........ http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[RBodem]

OMG!!!!! I have been looking for this car for years!!!!! My husband was the 2nd owner! We had it for I believe 10+ years. I was trying to buy it back from the guy to surprise my husband. The only thing I was able to get from the VIN number was a guy named Joel Doerr. The address was in West Chicago. I even went out there but there was no one there by that name anymore. I hate to say looking at the car now makes me very sad to see it in that condition. My husband Ron had that car in mint condition. I have photos, but it seems I can't get them to qualify to attach. They are too big.

[mockingbird812]

Send them to me and I will be happy to post 'em.

[CT Mark]

This is good stuff! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/youguysrock.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Can-I-Have-It.gif

[Mr70]

Welcome to the site RBodem.
I vaguely remember this car running at Byron in the 80's.
Hard to forget that Blower..
Here's some pics courtesy of RBodem.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/suddenaction.jpg

[Mr70]

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/suddenaction1.jpg

[MosportGreen66]

This story just took an interesting turn! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[1969l78]

I would say so

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I was gone for 4th of July; I just got back last night. I was checking out the forum and it is so cool that RBodem was one of the owners. Maybe when the guy was giving me his sales pitch he meant 84 instead of 74, we both were looking at the River Grove window sticker dated 1972. Who knows who he bought it from may have told him how long it has been off the road? It’s before the internet really existed; now people can find out his kind of information fairly easily online. After I got the car home I found a trading times from 1981 in the so called battery box. What years did your husband own it; how many years after it was new did he acquire it? Did you live in River Grove; was that your window sticker? Did your husband put the automatic transmission in it? Any more info you have would be greatly appreciated. I had a title search done last week, which was emailed to me over the weekend. Last night I finally got a chance to review the information, it looks like you sold the guy the car in 1987, is that correct? Did your husband race the car at Rockford Drag Way? I want to thank all you guys on this forum who have made it possible for me to find out some past history of this car. The Yenko.net website is great, and the people on this site are usually very friendly and want to help out their fellow car enthusiasts. Reviewing the old pictures of the car this first picture looks like the car is at a car show, seeing what looks like a yellow 1969 Camaro next to it. By any chance was that picture taken at the forest preserve off of Golf in Schaumburg? Thanks again guys for all the help…

[RBodem]

I finally told my hubby about the car! He didn't know what to say. lol His heart just dropped it think. He can't believe it was in a barn after all!! He had always joked that it was in a barn and we'd never find it. Did it have any of the parts with it? He believes he bought it around 1978-79. He sold it for a '70 914 Porsche from CA. Ever since he sold it he kicked himself. I can't tell you how much he misses that car. Since we finally gave up the search about 2 yrs. ago I went on EBay and found him a '70 Nova that had the same color as the Chevelle. We picked it up from PA. I will show you pics later. Back to the Chevelle... Ron made the Chevelle what it was. He lived for that car. He built that engine with his 2 hands I believe. We were only dating at the time. He was always "tricking it" out. No, we never lived in River Grove. I'll have to ask Ron (Hubby) if he remembers the purchase from the guy. It's been a while. If memory serves me right I always thought it was stick. Yes, he did race their... 11 twenties was his timing their. The pic is at the forest preserve you mention. And the guy that owns the Camaro still has it, and has not had it out his garage for years. He still says he'll ride it one of these days. lol The pic's are old and discolored. They don't show how mint this car was. Any thought of selling? Ron I think would like to see it at least. It was a real part of his younger years if you know what I mean. We have lots of pics. He raced often. Always trying to beat his times, and another friends car that was called "Flirting with Disaster". That friend no longer has that car but he still races. The guy "Lino" that told us about this lived the street over from us and knows how that car was. It was a REAL MEAN MACHINE!! I'm the computer guru, so Ron will need me to respond to any other questions. I have put his email address on here. I believe I made it public. Oh by the way, we still have the Porsche. Hasn't be out in years. Has a brand new motor sitting on a bench for the last 6 years or so. I'm waiting for him to get to that one. rrrrr I guess his Nova is first priority. He just finished the whole front end (down to the frame) of that car. He goes to a lot of car shows in our area.

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

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I was right on my assumtion of the build plant and based on "L" on the cowl tag it appears to be an SS though that is only speculation at this time. If this car has been unmolested as it appears and based on the build date I would bet there are at least 3 sheets in that car. One in the front seat back (push on the seat back and you may feel it on the drivers side), one in the bottom rear seat and one in the passengers front fender and there may be more as I have found them in other places on Leeds cars as well. It is VERY rare that they are not in these locations on the Leeds cars around that date.
Rick

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Rick

As someone else just asked the same question recently.. why do you think it is we often tell people .. Build Sheets were not intended to be left in cars... and more often than not tossed in the trash.. yet we can also point to certain places were Build Sheets are almost guaranteed to be found? and often are..with some cars/plants. I do the same thing. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Mike Crown

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I would be more than happy to give Ron a call, if you would like to private message me your phone number I’ll give him a call. When I got the car, the guy said it had a blower on it at one time. He said the blower and heads were taken off before he got the car. The story is he go the car and it just sat, never moved. I recognized in picture of the car, the forest preserve; I used to go there when I was a kid, I think it was called Bussey Woods? The car actually looks good since I cleaned, a few minor dents and dings, all original sheet metal. The interior of the car really looks good, where those plastic seat covers put on by Ron? Also did Ron by parts from Nickey Chevrolet, because I found the business card in there? Looks like it has had a lot of engine work done, the motor looks like it was stamped ACE Machine… Looks like it is somewhere around 500 cubic inches. From what information I have, Ron bought it about 7 years after it was new. Kind of cool, it must have got a pretty good penny for it back in its day with all the work that was done.

[JOESTOYBOX]

I just talked to Ron a little bit ago. He has tons of pictures of when he owned the car and used to hang out at Bussey Woods. He painted the inner fender wells gold and found one of the several build sheets that were on the car. This one was behind the inner fender well; he also assured me that the plastic on the seat covers was there since the day he bought it. The reason he was able to track the car down years ago, was because he was using the vin number off of the build sheet he still has!!! How awesome. It’s all because of this Yenko website, which made it easier to locate owners.

[RBodem]

Yes it is called Busse Woods. We hung there a lot. I sent you his number so your questions will be met from him directly. The plastic on the seats where there when he bought it. He never wanted to take them off. Now that I am in the reminising state I will share some pics with you all. I am going to make a page on "Ron's cars". I will leave a link shortly. Renee

[sixtiesmuscle]

Very cool Joe. Did he tell you what dealer the build sheet shows?

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Very cool Joe. Did he tell you what dealer the build sheet shows?

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He is going to look at it, he can't remember exactly what dealership it was, he thinks it was C and E, but isn't quite sure. He is going to look at and call me since he has my phone number now. I can't wait to see Renee's link, and see all the pictures, maybe she can post a picture of the build sheet they have.

[hvychev]

This is a very AMAZING story!http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif Only on Yenko.net! I am also very curious as to where the car was sold new at! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[rpoz11]

Cool story!
Mr70....
I need some of that popcorn for this!
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[RBodem]

WOW!! Didn't think making a website was that time consuming. OK guys I've started 2 pages. Yes the build sheet is on there. At least what's left of it. I will be adding more, but right now got to get some chores done.

This is my first website so be patient. I'm still learning.

http://www.geocities.com/[email protected]/RonsPage1.html and http://www.geocities.com/[email protected]/RonsPage2.html
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[1970ChevelleSS]

Links dont work

[John Brown]

Looks like there is more traffic than he expected. Acording to the link, here's what happens when that occurs.

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You can probably view it later when the traffic dies down.

[Bill Pritchard]

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I am also very curious as to where the car was sold new at! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

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I got to see the build sheet on the website....it's a Brigance car, Frank http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

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I am also very curious as to where the car was sold new at! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

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I got to see the build sheet on the website....it's a Brigance car, Frank http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

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After not being able to get on the linked website I finally got on and saved the build sheet to my hard drive. Here is the picture for anyone wanting to see it...

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Here are some more for those who can't get the site to work...

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[Rainer]

Awesome! Sure would be cool if a deal could be struck to put the car back into Ron's hands http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

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Awesome! Sure would be cool if a deal could be struck to put the car back into Ron's hands http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

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ill have to agree

[1969l78]

Yes that would be a great thing http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[JOESTOYBOX]

After this turn of events, I am strongly considering keeping it. If I do decide to sell it, I have Ron's phone number and he will be the first person I call. Thanks again everyone for all the help.

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After this turn of events, I am strongly considering keeping it.

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BOO!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif I wanted a happy ending... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

[tom406]

Joe's got a cool LS6 Chevelle and it sounds like he's going to give a helpful previous owner first right of refusal. He's not being a bad guy.

Just about EVERY guy on this board has a car some previous owner would love to have back, whether for sentimental or monetary reasons. Anybody else want to cut their car loose so the board can have a big group hug?

FWIW, Kudos to Ron and wife for sharing that info. I know many would be tempted to hold that stuff hostage in hopes of forcing a deal. I hope your good Karma is rewarded someday. Best wishes to all.

[hvychev]

Wow what a neat story! Is there a way the build sheet could be reunited with the car?

That is cool that it is a Brigance car. It makes sense that the Nickey card was with the car because Brigance was not that far from Nickey at all. Could have even been a dealer trade.

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After this turn of events, I am strongly considering keeping it.

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BOO!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif I wanted a happy ending... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

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I wasn't trying to sound mean like hahaha... There is something to be said about nostalgia. The history of this car is really neat; I think restoring it like these pictures would be cool.

[68Biscayne427]

I think it is great also that RBodem, (Ron &amp; Spouse), are sharing the information. I have had the experience of talking to the person who owned my car before me. Talk about holding the information hostage. He would not tell me who owned the car before him - the original purchaser. He has time-slips when my car was raced but will not even give me copies! He also has pics of the car when it was being raced and restored. THEN.... He had the gaul to offer to buy it from me for what I paid for it. I know he has the build sheet but I can't prove it and there is nothing I can do. Kudos to Ron and wife!!!!!
He will never see my car for sale - period!

(Do I sound a little angry??) http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif

[TimG]

A well known Corvette dealer in Ohio sold a '67 red/black 435 Corvette within the past year that was involved in a divorce settlement. The car came with copies of its paperwork, but the original factory paperwork was still in the hands of the wife of the prior owner. She was offered, as I understand, at least $25,000 for the original paperwork on the Benchmark 16,000 mile car and turned it down. I don't know how much she is holding out for, but the $25,000 figure didn't ring her bell.