1969 Camaro - Sunroof

[b4cmaro]

OK guys - I know that the factory didnt offer one, but I am pretty sure there is an 'era-correct' one that was offered aftermarket. Memory escapes - was it Hurst, or some Company from the UK?
Does anyone have the dimensions for it and/or info about it?
Also, has anyone ever seen the trim plate be incorrect showing 12437 versus a 12337 that the vin has and the title shows? The car is an X44 built 09C - vin fits in to the correct sequence, just curious about the body number. Any suggestions on a range for that?
thanks
Tas

[Ngtflyr]

A guy here in the 1st Gen Camaro club has a 69 Export Camaro, French I think, with a sunroof, done at the factory! I could probably track him down after I get back from a road trip I go on this week.

[JChlupsa]

Heres some good reading on your VIN VS cowl tag question

http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#VINvsStyle

[rspanther]

Was it something advailable only on the export cars ? I have seen a 68 here local some years ago that had a sunroof from the factory I think it came from oversea's.
Dave

[jannes_z-28]

Sunroofs was a popular option on the European market, and still is.

The GM plant in Antwerp, Belgium had this as an option. They assembled GM cars there up until the 1968 production year and they put in sunroofs when a customer wanted that.

Many Camaros got it, I have also seen GTO's and Impalas with sunroofs.

From the production year 1969 they was only a importstation for continental Europe but they still could put in sunroofs on special order. I know of one 1971 Z28 with vinyl and sunroof.

They used sunroofs from the German (i think) manufacturer Webasto.


Jan

[b4cmaro]

Thanks for the responses so far guys!
This info begs the question - how do you determine an export car? The speedo is in MPH - dont know that it couldnt have been changed.
The car also has an old style alarm on it. Big horn looking contraption on the drivers fender with a on/off switch behind the side marker light on drivers side fender? Not sure of brand...would that play into any export stuff?
I'll try to attach a pic of the sunroof...

[elcamino72]

On export cars that I've seen they usually have a registration tag attached under the hood shwoing that it was legal in the particular country that it was originally registered in.

I also concur with Jan's post completely. I researched the topic of sunroofs in first gens back in '99 and '00 with the guys over at Team Camaro and at Chevytalk this is exactly what we determined with the help of a few european members.

[Ngtflyr]

I think the one here had some fog lights and maybe an extra tailight? It has been a few years since I've seen it. I know there were some additional features required and this car has most or all of the extras.

[Canuck]

The 1972 Hurst olds used a Sunroof by Webasto,now known as Hollandia. Thay were installed in the US and Webasto did the entire Hurst conversion in 1972,which Included the Vinyl tops and stripes.
Webasto roofs were also installed on Cadillacs in the 70's and possibly as early as 69.
Webasto Sunroofs can be found on Mercedes and BMW from the late 60's.

[JIM]

In 1969 a Company called Creative industries installed a German made Electric sliding roof for all the major Car companies. They were located arround Detriot. They installed these roofs into the F-body's as well as the Olds Toranado and the Cadilliac Eldo. They also installed these roofs into the Mercury Cougar and the Chrysler A-bodies. I sold a 69 Trans-Am in 04 in original paint that had one installed before being shipped to LA to its original selling dealer. The amount was on the invoice from Ponitac. This car was viewd at Reno 03 and Spring Carlisle 04 By hundreds. We sold the 69 Eliminator at Palm Beach this year that also had one of these roofs. In hindsight I wish I had kept the TA.

Jim http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[JIM]

Heres a picture I have to find the rest of the sunfroof only

[jannes_z-28]

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On export cars that I've seen they usually have a registration tag attached under the hood shwoing that it was legal in the particular country that it was originally registered in.

I also concur with Jan's post completely. I researched the topic of sunroofs in first gens back in '99 and '00 with the guys over at Team Camaro and at Chevytalk this is exactly what we determined with the help of a few european members.

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The cars that went through Antwerp has a special trimtag, usually placed on the passengerside inner fender or firewall.

If the car was assembled in Antwerp it only had this tag. If the car was built in the USA it would have its American tag also.

Other countries with their own tags as far as I know is Switzerland (they had their own plant), Netherland, France and Denmark.

All GM cars sold in Sweden came directly from the USA.

Jan

[PeteLeathersac]

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All GM cars sold in Sweden came directly from the USA.

Jan

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And Canadian built/shipped cars too?.

~ Pete
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[DarrenX33]

Anyone remember the white 69 SS/RS out of California that was on eBay about a year ago? That car had a sunroof. Believe it was dealer installed. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

[jannes_z-28]

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And Canadian built/shipped cars too?.

~ Pete
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Not any that was sold through the GM organisation but there might be some privately imported. Swedes working in the US or Canada often brought cars back home when they moved back. There could be some but I don't know.

We have just over 900 first generation Camaros here in Sweden, about 25 of them are made in Antwerp and about half of them have sunroofs. A qualified guess is that 3/4 of the 1st gen Camaros in Sweden have been imported after 1970.

BTW the 1969 Camaro is the most common Camaro in Sweden. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif


Jan

[PeteLeathersac]

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And Canadian built/shipped cars too?.

~ Pete
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

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Not any that was sold through the GM organisation but there might be some privately imported. Swedes working in the US or Canada often brought cars back home when they moved back. There could be some but I don't know.

We have just over 900 first generation Camaros here in Sweden, about 25 of them are made in Antwerp and about half of them have sunroofs. A qualified guess is that 3/4 of the 1st gen Camaros in Sweden have been imported after 1970.

BTW the 1969 Camaro is the most common Camaro in Sweden. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif


Jan

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I was talking GM cars as noted, not Camaros and always thought some Canadian built units were shipped to Sweden as complete or KD units?.
Doesn't Copo-Anders have a '67 Impala built at the Oshawa Ontario or St. Therese Quebec plant...I seem to recall him documenting his through GM Canada Vintage Services?.

Sorry for sidetracking this Sunroof thread..

~ Pete
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[bashton]

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Heres a picture I have to find the rest of the sunfroof only

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That is as cool as it gets. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif