Gibb Nova vintage day 2 pic's

[NovaMob03]

Here are some pic's of Gibb Nova #21 as it arrived in Iowa from KC and racing at Eddyville Ia(circa 1974-ish). I'm told it had an L88 and was the baddest ride in Moultin Ia.
Pic's are courtesy of Ked Wood. one of it's past owners. Thanks to Ken and Kim Howie for supplying some owner hist & ph #'s http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/youguysrock.gif

[NovaMob03]

Raced as 'Duece II'

[NovaMob03]

At Eddyville Raceway

[Xplantdad]

I love the vintage paint style...

[mockingbird812]

Nice pictures. Love the vintage stuff. Great squat at Eddyville!

[NovaMob03]

Shonye thinks it should be restored back to this...

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x61/novamob/nova_005.jpg

[ORIGLS6]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif Damn! You think they've got enough tire under that thing? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[SS427]

I agree! Talk about overkill. Awesome pictures, thanks for sharing. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[PeteLeathersac]

VERY COOL pics!.
Love how it's plated for the street too!.
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif
~ Pete

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Cool pics, but it's gotta go back to stock!

[Kim_Howie]

Race it!!! That's what it was built for. Restore as race. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Xplantdad]

I agree...restore it as race...there are enough around that are restored back to stock... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif


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[SS427]

Yeah, what he said. I am really liking all these restored race cars that have been popping up lately. Brings back a lot of memories.

I have already starting collecting Day II parts to put Annie's Nova back in race trim and paint................... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

[ORIGLS6]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

Enjoy your fantasy world while you can! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[SS427]

Which ones? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[NovaMob03]

Hey Rick, How 'bout a trade for Annies Nova. You just have to convince her... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[HiPerf]

How long do you think any of these cars stayed stock! The first thing whe did was pull the stock parts off and go racing. I was never a big fan of the Nova,the 69 camaro was the best looking car Chevrolet ever made. I would leave it as a race car,who cares if its numbers matching.

[NovaMob03]

It dosen't look like this anymore. It had about 12 owners in Iowa & was stripped & repainted Maroon in 1985(I think). The 1/4's were replaced too. Now it's 75-80% restored back to original. If it were still day2 I'd leave it that way, but I'm inclined to go back original. The Grecian Green paint has already been mixed to match Annies Nova.

[SS427]

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Hey Rick, How 'bout a trade for Annies Nova. You just have to convince her... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

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Not likely that will happen any day soon if I can help it. I talked her out of selling it before as it is the last thing she and Dennis did together and it is more than just a collector car to her. I hope she keeps it a very long time.

[NovaMob03]

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I have already starting collecting Day II parts to put Annie's Nova back in race trim and paint................... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

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And what makes you think she's gonna let you day2 that beautiful Nova? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

[Tommy]

Stock bad... Day II good.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

Tommy

[SS427]

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And what makes you think she's gonna let you day2 that beautiful Nova? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

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Cumby said it best.........
"Enjoy your fantasy world while you can!"

Actually after talking to her tonight she thought it would be pretty cool to put vinyl race decals, headers, mags and drag tires on it as it was back in '68 for one show just to be different. A couple of hours and it would be back to stock again.

[Xplantdad]

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And what makes you think she's gonna let you day2 that beautiful Nova? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

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Cumby said it best.........
"Enjoy your fantasy world while you can!"

Actually after talking to her tonight she thought it would be pretty cool to put vinyl race decals, headers, mags and drag tires on it as it was back in '68 for one show just to be different. A couple of hours and it would be back to stock again.

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That would be totally cool http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Schonyenko2]

I kinda go to the pics that Verne posted of York. All very cool, but a lot of them done in the nostalgia "back in the day" race car look. If this car had no race history, I'd say GG dog dishes, off the show room look. But this is the cars history/life. To put it back, would be somewhat like putting the Vitar copo, or Herbie's hugger, or the Ray Allen chevelle back to show room stock. A cars history, is like the story of your life. While a baby's born with a clean slate, he/ she are what they are in life by what they do. If he grows up to be a Hells Angel, you don't dress him up in a suit when he dies, and say "what a nice life he lived". In my old perverted logic, that's how I see these cars. Especially when there's documented evidence , and people alive to tell it's story. These cars say, "Iam, what I am". Tell my story. JMHO http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

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It dosen't look like this anymore. It had about 12 owners in Iowa & was stripped & repainted Maroon in 1985(I think). The 1/4's were replaced too. Now it's 75-80% restored back to original. If it were still day2 I'd leave it that way, but I'm inclined to go back original. The Grecian Green paint has already been mixed to match Annies Nova.

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Good deal, put it back to stock. I don't know/care what you old hippies did to these cars back in the day, but someone sure fuglied this one up!! If it was a famous race car, it might have a chance - but what the.... You can't go wrong with GG http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Justbad Joe]

You can't go wrong with GG http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

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This coming from a guy who likes Gobi Beige. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

Jude we already have the hood on the way. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Joe

[NovaMob03]

An SS hood AND a doghouse hood. Now, that's a good idea.
...Donahue's 'Deuce Heaven'? More like a Deuceateria http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Salvatore]

Like WOW Mayor. That was a cool, bad a$$, dialed in statement coming from a groovy, boss kinda guy you are! Man you are solid!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Xplantdad]

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Like WOW Mayor. That was a cool, bad a$$, dialed in statement coming from a groovy, boss kinda guy you are! Man you are solid!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

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I agree Sammy.

Hey Marlin...step away form the beans for awhile...LOL http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

My beans are fine, that thing needs to be Mean and Green http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[Xplantdad]

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My beans are fine, that thing needs to be Mean and Green http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

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[tom406]

I'm with Marlin, those original pics are scary. The Funny Car tires make it look like a caricature.

How about restore it to stock and do up a die-cast in its Day II form to place on the dash. Best of both worlds?

I'm into the restored race cars, too. And if this thing was time-capsuled like that MAYBE I'd be tempted to leave it, but no way could I restore it to that look.

[ORIGLS6]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

I'm so confused............. I agree with ALL of you! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Charley.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/youguysrock.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/stupid.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Can-I-Have-It.gif




and BTW.............. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/BelairSucks.gif

[Schonyenko2]

I think you'd want to leave the wheelwells stock, and back space the cragers so you could get about a 8.5 slick in the stock opening. The colors appear a little washed out in the pictures. I'm thinkin you lighten the darkbrwn/burgandy to a lighter burgundy, and accent the panels with a pinstripe outline, maybe even fuzz shadowing the inside panel. I guess maybe you had to live in the times this kinda thing was popular to like it. It was an extension of the psychedelic drug infested, alcohol abuse, wild sex, acid rock era. An extended middle finger to conformity, followed by a "if you don't like it, fu k off dude". Some of us just have never gotten past that. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Where were you in 69?
smokin dope, and drinkin wine, The boys homesick.
Home sick for days gone by, home sick to kiss the sky.
Where's ole Belair?

[Mr70]

The boys Homesick...tryin to feel better so he can stand in line for his Charlie Daniels Band tickets.
.."and you were an Outlaw." http://ocnorml.org/images/medpot/smuslieaf.gif

[DarrenX33]

[ QUOTE ]
I kinda go to the pics that Verne posted of York. All very cool, but a lot of them done in the nostalgia "back in the day" race car look. If this car had no race history, I'd say GG dog dishes, off the show room look. But this is the cars history/life. To put it back, would be somewhat like putting the Vitar copo, or Herbie's hugger, or the Ray Allen chevelle back to show room stock. A cars history, is like the story of your life. While a baby's born with a clean slate, he/ she are what they are in life by what they do. If he grows up to be a Hells Angel, you don't dress him up in a suit when he dies, and say "what a nice life he lived". In my old perverted logic, that's how I see these cars. Especially when there's documented evidence , and people alive to tell it's story. These cars say, "Iam, what I am". Tell my story. JMHO http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

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I'd say this is the single best post by anyone in a while. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

How many more showroom stock cars do we need? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[Salvatore]

Just a couple more Darren! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Make 'em all showroom stock! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[copo-2]

#37


http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb303/DH427Nova/BWNovaRace2.jpg

[Xplantdad]

Awesome pic Ray! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[DarrenX33]

Yeah Ray like Marlin says convert it back to stock. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

What a great car. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I put my stock wheels with whitewall tires back on the deuce the other night. I couldn't handle the Atlas look. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[68l30]

Say it ain't so......It looked good to me! Just gotta give it more than a few days.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif


Steve

[sYc]

Hey Marlin..Rob wants to know if we can have the Atlas wheels for our '69. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[Kim_Howie]

Jude do what you want!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[SS427]

Paint it <font color="purple">PURPLE</font>!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[Kim_Howie]

Works for me. Screw em if they dont like it!!! JMO http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

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Hey Marlin..Rob wants to know if we can have the Atlas wheels for our '69. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

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Ha! Not so sure on that, you'll have to fight Benjamin for them - he likes them almost as much as his Cragars!

[Salvatore]

Hey Mayor, You are inspiring me with your poetry lately! Like groovey man. Time to take several deep breaths and hold them for a second or so. WOW like do it real quick maaaann! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Feel better now? I do! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[HiPerf]

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Make 'em all showroom stock! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

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I don't know about show room stock. The small block car's were a real dog out of the show room with out a good tune. I just can't see a L78,L88 or L72 with exhaust manifolds, they need a good set of headers and a few other bolt ons to make them move. But what would I know about drag racing any way http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

[Schonyenko2]

Where were you in 69?
smokin dope, and drinkin wine, The boys homesick.
Home sick for days gone by, home sick to kiss the sky.
Where's ole Belair?

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Sammy, that from an old Atlanta rhythm section tune. It never was a hit, but I always liked it.
Rick, I liked ole Charley until he moved way right.(Not that he didn't start there). He did a great deal to bring southern fried rock to the front of rock, and country crossover.A great performer, and musician. He just kinda lost me on his message.

Now Sammy, next time you hear a good ole tune, or crank up the Z, you tell me if that doesn't make you a little homesick for 1969 too. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[tom406]

"Homesick" is on Atlanta Rhythm Sections's album "Quinella" which came out in '81 or so. It got pretty regular airplay in Minneapolis on the AOR/classic rock stations throughout the '80s. Its one of their harder rocking tunes. Kind of an anomoly, like Bread's "Mother Freedom" (one of my favorite harder rock guitar songs, by a predominantly soft-rockin' band).

Amen to the Charlie Daniels' comment. How did a guy who wrote "Long Haired Country Boy" and the southern hippie anthem "Uneasy Rider" evolve into a fairly obstinate right wing reactionary?

The cool thing about some race cars is that they have an evolutionary history, and you can pick the era you like best, or perhaps mix and match some elements from different eras.

Maybe this Nova didn't turn into a clown car until "Day 13", maybe it was tastefully campaigned for a time ala copo-2's pic. I could see doing it up with period bolt-ons and Cragars.

[Salvatore]

I am ALWAYS home sick for 1969. Ask my wife, I drive her nuts with nostalgia and always quiz her on the old songs that come on the radio from the CSNY and Hendrix era. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gifer is what I am! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

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Make 'em all showroom stock! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

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I don't know about show room stock. The small block car's were a real dog out of the show room with out a good tune. I just can't see a L78,L88 or L72 with exhaust manifolds, they need a good set of headers and a few other bolt ons to make them move. But what would I know about drag racing any way http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

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Have you seen the Certified Stock cars run lately, they seem to do just fine with their manifolds, ie; low 12's and high 11's without traction bars and skinny tires!!!

[budnate]

Marlin...put the Atlas wheels back on, no kidding your car looks best dressed that way...even for a Gobi car http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

No.


(can't do it!)

[SS427]

Yes

(do it!) You might even win the shootout this year... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I need more than a set of wheels to win the shootout!

[NovaMob03]

Tom, you're right about it's day1 history. Orig owner, Jim L. raced it at KC drag strip &amp; street raced it in Grecian Green, then sold it with only 1500 miles. I believe it was the 2nd owner, who I've not spoken to, that day2'd it the way it is shown here.
I'm told that when Jim was on leave from Nam he decided to drive from KC to Laharpe to buy the Nova. When he got there, the dealership was closed, so he called Fred at home to see if he would reopen to sell him the Nova. Fred did so, Jim bought it &amp; drove it home. Only a few of the 50 Novas' were actually sold at the Gibb dealership. BTW Wayne Elston, now deceased, filled out the Gibb delivery inspection sheet...he did many of the ZL1 inspections as well.
This Nova either came close to setting the Eddyville track record, or did set it(can't get my hands on actual doc's) &amp; I'm told that other Muscle used to come to Moulton from Cedar Rapids to see if they could beat it. Not bad for the $1000 that the 3rd owner paid for it...with this paint sceme &amp; the L88. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[Kim_Howie]

Jude where did hear that only afew were sold at the Gibb dealership?? I would say that's true about the ZL-1 s, but not the Novas. All were sold by and threw Fred Gibb.

[ORIGLS6]

Wayne Elstrom's signature is on my Pre-Delivery sheet as well. Also have one of his business cards. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

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As for #21, leave her Green, bolt on some Day 2 stuff, snooker Marlin out of the Atlas wheels and http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif a lot! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[NovaMob03]

I realize that all 50 Nova's 1st went to LaHarpe, and the registry shows that 30 of the 50 were sold there ( I consider that a few). That leaves 20 sold though Fred's dealer network....Courtesy, Bill Allen,Riley, Branine, Rod Smith,Bomier,Knowles,Harvey May. You've always known more about these Nova's than me, so am I wrong? The 2 that I owned, sold at Gibb, had the delivery inspection. The other 2 sold from Courtesy did not.
I spoke with Jim L today and asked how he had it set up. Minor mod's like headers, T bars &amp; he rolled the fenders for slicks. Unfortunately, he can't find any pics http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[Kim_Howie]

Wayne was on all the Nova's sheets I have seen.

Put Cragers or Kelesy Hays Wheels. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Kim_Howie]

Jude 10 to 15 went to Harrell to be conv. or tuned. Those are the cars that went to other dealers. Very few stock ones were sold by other dealers. I agree 30 to 35 were sold by Fred at his dealership. I don't consider 60 to 70% a few . http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[copo-2]

Kim,

Not sure on this, but wasn't all these cars for warranty reason, directed back through Gibb, though another authorized Chevy dealer may have sold as new, even the Harrell prepared cars?

[Schonyenko2]

Ray, is that a picture of your car, or, if not, whose.
The argument on stock/factory depends a little on if you lived in the time of these cars, or not. Some also depends on what one feels will bring the most value at sale time. I think most of us, as mr. Cumby calls us "geezers" who lived in the day know that 1, you bought one of these cars to street race, go to the strip, generally just beat hell out of it. 2, if you didn't modify it with big tires/wide rims, headers, slapper bars, you weren't gonna win many races, cause, THERE WE'REN'T NO FRIGGEN RULES! 3, if you showed up with white wall E70 tires, not only were you gonna get beat, you were gonna get laughed at.
I sincerly respect purists. I understand the logic, but, being a "geezer" it's just a hard sell for me.
I guess in closing, I can say this. I'll be cold, dead, and pitchin coal in the furnace, before someone else puts the exhaust manifold/smog, and white wall tires on ole yeller. Let the record show, it made it from Cedar Rapids Ia. to Wyoming Ia. before the tires were changed. Yep, that quick. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Kim_Howie]

Ray, I think your right about the warranty work. I have never heard of a car fixed except at Gibbs shop. Also the warranty was only 90 days. That may have made a differance.

[Kim_Howie]

Hey Just tell them they are not "YARD ORNAMENTS"

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I'll turn into a Democrat b4 I take those whitewalls off, so ya know that ain't ever gonna happen http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif I can take a little laughter http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[SS427]

I'll turn into a Democrat b4 I take those whitewalls off, so ya know that ain't ever gonna happen I can take a little laughter http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Remember the staged photos of Gags 62 bubbletop at VetteFest...............I think we have found our next candidate............ http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[Kim_Howie]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[DarrenX33]

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3, if you showed up with white wall E70 tires, not only were you gonna get beat, you were gonna get laughed at.


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[Allen]

Marlin, those Altas wheels and white letter tires really do look tough on there. It remakes the whole look of your Nova.

[NovaMob03]

I searched high &amp; low for the correct 14X6 XF coded wheels that came on the Gibb Nova, so they're going on!
Marlin, I have a set of XT's to trade for those Atlas' wheels...ya wanna?

[copo-2]

[ QUOTE ]
Ray, is that a picture of your car, or, if not, whose.
The argument on stock/factory depends a little on if you lived in the time of these cars, or not. Some also depends on what one feels will bring the most value at sale time. I think most of us, as mr. Cumby calls us "geezers" who lived in the day know that 1, you bought one of these cars to street race, go to the strip, generally just beat hell out of it. 2, if you didn't modify it with big tires/wide rims, headers, slapper bars, you weren't gonna win many races, cause, THERE WE'REN'T NO FRIGGEN RULES! 3, if you showed up with white wall E70 tires, not only were you gonna get beat, you were gonna get laughed at.
I sincerly respect purists. I understand the logic, but, being a "geezer" it's just a hard sell for me.
I guess in closing, I can say this. I'll be cold, dead, and pitchin coal in the furnace, before someone else puts the exhaust manifold/smog, and white wall tires on ole yeller. Let the record show, it made it from Cedar Rapids Ia. to Wyoming Ia. before the tires were changed. Yep, that quick. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

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Ken,

Yes, that is a picture of my car taken probably in 1971? This is the same se-up, but in color. You have probably seen this picture before?

As far as the issue of stock appearing or race, personally I have feeling both ways. The way it is now, is the way I drove it home from K.C., but as you mention, it wasn't long before it had a pair of slicks and competing on the strip.

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb303/DH427Nova/Dragstrip68DHNova.jpg

[SS427]

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Make 'em all showroom stock! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

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You gonna tell Barnhart before or after the reunion......? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Keith Tedford]

I like Ray's car with the Cragars. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif We have them on our Chevelle. Every time I think about putting the original style SS wheels back on the car, I change my mind. Day two and Cragars go hand in hand.....along with headers and a Hurst shifter. I really haven't changed much in the last 40 years. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif
What's this hippy thing. None of the car guys I knew were into the hippy fad. There was one local long haired guy that bought a Shelby Mustand in about 1969-1970. He litterally destroyed the car in one summer. They were a totally different breed and we didn't seem to cross paths at all. Grass, for us, was something you walked on. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Salvatore]

You are right Keith about those damn hippies! Who needed em! I figure they didn't get as far north as you guys because it was just to cold to lite one up! Plus there is no grass in Canada just ice. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gifhttp://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[Schonyenko2]

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I'll turn into a Democrat b4 I take those whitewalls off, so ya know that ain't ever gonna happen I can take a little laughter http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

When they start draftin guys your age, you'll think about bein a Democrat. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Schonyenko2]

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You are right Keith about those damn hippies! Who needed em! I figure they didn't get as far north as you guys because it was just to cold to lite one up! Plus there is no grass in Canada just ice. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gifhttp://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

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Sammy, most of those damn hippies were goin to Canada to get outta the draft. Cold was better than Vietnam. I remember how Ford most likly lost the election by pardoning the draft restisters/dodgers (depending on how you saw it), and then almost none of them came back.
Keith, your kinda right, although the term hippie was/is used a lot like the word liberal, homo, fag, the N word. Most of the time around here, even if you were part of the Sunday choir, only cut grass, and never smoked it,but your hair was a little longer that conformed to community standards, you were a fu kin hippie.
Please revisit 2 lane black top. James Taylor would have qualifyed as a gearhead hippie. Although "the girl' would have been a good time hippie chick. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[Kim_Howie]

Hey Schony, We haven't had a draft board for over 30 years get over it. Also Nixson pardoned the dodgers. He was the president that had the balls to resign. Which I can't say that for your buddy clinton. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[tom406]

Speaking of Tricky Dick, I saw a bumper sticker the other day on the back of an otherwise immaculate Acura sedan with a gray haired boomer driving. It said "I never thought I'd miss Nixon".

On that note, its too bad Al Gore didn't use the heretofore undiscovered power of the Vice Presidency to help 'ol Bill. Apparently, the Vice Presidency has broad powers and reach, and isn't really accountable to any branch of the federal government. Poor Al, he could have had this whole global warming thing licked if only he had the initiative of Mr. Cheney (Tricky Dick, Mk II).

Back now to Novas with excessively large tires.....

[Schonyenko2]

Well, Jude has pretty much decided to stay pretty much stock. That's fine. It'll be pretty cool that way too.It would be interesting to see if the 1st owner had pics of it racing before it had the color change.

Dear Mr. Howie, you cannot get into Republican heaven, if you can't spell Nixon (Nixson) correctly. You're lucky he's dead, or he'd probably have your phone tapped, and have you on his undesirable persons list. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
As for the draft. The army, and marines were unable to fill their quotas big time last month. They are now taking the kind of people that they had wanted to stay away from with the volunteer army as they've had to lower their requirements.
Your friends the neocons want to bomb Iran
Musharif is about to be overthrow in a nuclear armed Pakistan.(big nightmare)
And the bulk of the United States army is bogged down in Iraq.
Nevermind all the stuff going on in Africa from Somolia, to the oil fields of Niger., And the hell with Darfur, there ain't no oil there.
The eggs are in one basket, and they're in Iraq.
If things go from bad to worse, they may have no choice. Besides, they been usin the back door draft on the guard, and reserve guys for the last 2 years.
And it was Ford who allowed the dodgers who went to Canada to come home (amnesty) http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[kwhizz]

Which I can't say that for your buddy clinton.

Do you mean the Country's "First" Black President......The Nafta Guy????...............Marc Rich's "Buddy"............LOL

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[Schonyenko2]

The Republicans held power in all three branches of government for 6 years, and not one of them offered up a bill to repeal nafta. They obviously had the power to do it. Why not? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
Mr Rich, and Mr. Libby should both be in jail Sometimes, be you Democrat, or Republican, you can't cure stupid.
Come on guys, You can't claim the moral high ground for the GOP anymore. That ballon just ain't flyin. Ole Bill was stupid, but he didn't run on a family values platform like the estemed senator from La, then get caught up in an escort scandal.People with bad sexual mores come in all party affiliations, and religions. Some get caught, some don't.

And at the end of the day, when you're sittin in that big ole chair with that man with a very stern face lookin down at you, readin from the book of your life, he ain't gonna care if you were president, or ditch digger when he passes that judgement on your a$$. So throw all those stones at slick Willie you want, Cause someday we're all gonna get to set in that big ole chair. And he don't give no pardons.

[sYc]

Seems any time a car surfaces that is in race/day 2 trim, such as Jude's Gibb Nova, a discussion begins as per how to restore. Always a very spirited debate. I for one always vote for dragcar/day 2, but I do see the other side.

IMO, it is about value. A lot of the old racecars began life as pretty rare cars, thus in original condition hold alot of value. Though most ZL-1 went racing, their value seems to be in original condition. The exception may be ZL-1 #1, but as neat as the history of that car is, and no doubt very valuable, it would set records if sold restored back to original condition.

Of course there are the obvious exceptions, Gumpy's cars, Sox/Martin, Arnie, etc.

I think part of it has to do with the fact that most folks enjoy seeing the old racecars the way they were raced, but do not want the burden of showing one. Unlike cars restored back to original, which are relative easy to show and enjoy, a racecar can be a PITA.

Will be interesting to watch how a well known '67 Z28 will do at auction this fall at Mecum, the Fred Gibb car known as Lil Hoss. As it sits today, a couple of collectors have told me they value it at somwhere between $100-150,000.00, not a lot more then a nice '67 Z.

[sYc]

Ray..that is one of my all time favorite pictures. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

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[sYc]

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And what makes you think she's gonna let you day2 that beautiful Nova? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

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Cumby said it best.........
"Enjoy your fantasy world while you can!"

Actually after talking to her tonight she thought it would be pretty cool to put vinyl race decals, headers, mags and drag tires on it as it was back in '68 for one show just to be different. A couple of hours and it would be back to stock again.

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For SCR1, CLiff Ernst did this to one of his Yenko Camaros. All of the decals were magnetic, so the only parts requiring much effort were the hood and tunnel ram. Would be wild if one year for the SCR we all did this, with supercar logos, pet names, racing decals, day two/race parts installed...

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[SS427]

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Would be wild if one year for the SCR we all did this, with supercar logos, pet names, racing decals, day two/race parts installed...


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I know we're in. After all that is where most of these cars got their start. It would be wild (and also a nice change) to see a bunch of these cars dressed up in Day II or race trim. For the most part it would be the addition of wheels, tires, headers, air cleaner, tach and some decals and would require little more than a days effort. Just look at Ray's car for an example, great to see it in it's glory. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[55chevy]

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Then Day 2 them all again just like back in the day http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

[NovaMob03]

I certainly can't take any credit for this Gibb Nova or it's neat history, but it seems to have it all. Bought in LaHarpe. Has orig doc's. Raced in KC, by the orig owner, in the orig color with minor mods. Raced day2 in KC &amp; Ia with an L88 &amp; a screamin' 70's period paint job. The orig owner is still around to talk about it, as are several Iowa owners. I wish I was in a position to take it to SCR...maybe next yr, if I still have it.
So, what's not to like ? Oh yeah, it's missin' the bloody cowl tag, but I'm still lookin' for it http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Andy]

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For SCR1, CLiff Ernst did this to one of his Yenko Camaros. All of the decals were magnetic, so the only parts requiring much effort were the hood and tunnel ram. Would be wild if one year for the SCR we all did this, with supercar logos, pet names, racing decals, day two/race parts installed...

http://www.yenko.net/reunion/yenkoce.jpg

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I remember that car and the little trip it made from Cliff's shop to the show car field. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif That tunnel ram 427 had no problems with http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif Man I hope I can attend another reunion soon.

[spklnraz]

That is one cool looking Yenko. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif