United States Muscle Car Federation (???)

[Lee Weber]

Not looking at bashing...
A gentleman shared this organization (http://www.musclecarfederation.com/) with me at a recent car show. Seems to mirror the Antique Automobile Club of America's Format (with respect to point judging, and the Junior/Senior progression). See link to their upcoming national event (http://www.motortopia.com/events/view/e/1746/i/usmcf_nationals) for those details. Any of you boys know/heard anything on this organization? Without drilling deeper, they look like they have good intentions (helping to preserve a specefic niche' of American Automobile history - ie, Muscle cars).

Thoughts/Comments? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[SSJunkie68-69]

I know both Tom and Troy who started this group. They work pretty hard at promoting the hobby. They both are good guys who are doing what they can to make it enjoyable for everyone. They want to try and take this thing to the next level and that's why the started the "nationals". This event should be interesting with an old time feel to it.

[Lee Weber]

Thanks Tom. Absolutley...these guys have a whole lot of good will http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif Just wanted to shake the tree and hear what the "pros" had to say. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

Cool~ I might have interest in something like that.. MD is not that far away and I am all about showing my 66 at new venues!

Thanks Lee

Mike Crown

[Lee Weber]

No problem Mike. Actually it was an ACES member who shared the info with me...let me know if you are heading down, please. I'd like to get some fresh eyes on my car as well -and get it criticaly evaluted. I've pushed this out to some of the Rat Pack gang out of Jersey (AL and BILL are you listening). And like you, MD is only a 4 hour jaunt. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

[69L78]

I took my 69 X-Ram JL8 to their muscle car show on May 12th, and I was sooooo disappointed at the quality of what was suppose to be muscle cars, I will never go back. If you were into Fords and Pontiac's, there were some nice cars, but as for Camaro's the turnout sucked, and the Chevelle's were worse yet....Mike C. you would have been very disappointed. Am I missing something here, or am I just getting "Old", the show was advertised as musclecars and there were some pieces of crap there going into the late 70's or early 80's.

[Camaro Billy]

I was at one of their shows w/ my Camaro last year and there were a lot of nice cars.There was a threat of rain (that didn't appear until aftet the show )for the May 12th show that kept the car count down.I think their show on Sept. 29th will have potential for more quality cars.I too can't say enough about Tom and Troy, they work real hard to promote the hobby.
If you are looking for a new show to attend in MD. our Maryland Camaro Club will host our annual show on Sat. Sept. 8th. It is open to all Chevy's and we do 200 point judging based on the 200 point class at the Camaro Nationals in Carlisle PA.We are the host club at the Nats. and do the judging there.
Here is a link from Team Camaro with info on the show, hotels and a shot from last year-
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=101334
If you have any questions PM me, I'll try to help.
Billy

[69L78]

That's funny, the threat of rain on May 12th didn't keep the cars away just 3 miles away at the park in Williamsport, they were turning cars away because the park was full. The Ford's and Pontiac's had a great turnout only because they were all from the same prospective clubs travelling together.

[TW8183Z28]

I want to respond to you point by point. In the first place it was NEVER advertised as a MUSCLE CAR Show, The event was the PONY CAR SHOWDOWN III in the second place the display of muscle cars was a USMCF Members only display so they could participate in a club event. Third you are completely out of line calling anyone’s car CRAP as you so eloquently put it. Just because you don’t like something doesn’t mean it is crap.
No the show did not give us the turnout we expected I will give you that, but if you are going to tell the story have ALL the facts and tell the whole story. 1st it was Mothers Day weekend some people were simply away and out of town. Second We had NO LESS than twenty people call after the show saying that they wound up at the wrong show and just stayed there because they didn’t want to have to pay a second entry fee at our event, (although Three people left the other show and came to our event, when they realized it wasn’t where they wanted to be). It was a little confusing for some because they had to pass that event to get to ours and were “waved in” by those directing traffic, not to mention the fact several of our signs were taken down at exit 2 and replaced with signs pointing to the other show. That show was scheduled after ours and advertised on TV Radio and Newspaper to raise money for the towns Christmas lights. That’s why we set a later date for next year so we don’t have any conflict. And finally the person in charge of that event called the following Monday and apologized to our organization for scheduling the event on top of ours saying that they didn’t check the area show schedule before setting their date. See there’s a lot you left out.
And I’ll admit, It was the first show of the year for our organization and the first SOLO Pony Car Showdown, (in previous years the Pony Car Showdown had been part of the Autorama) and we didn’t really get it advertised as well as we should have due to many early shows being rained out in April. Rain played some part in the event as many of the cars we get from Virginia, West Virginia, Western PA and Far Western MD did not come out this year, it rained all day in Winchester and areas South and from Cumberland, West. It was very disappointing to have many classes with No cars in them at all, and to have only had 56 Pony Cars when the previous year’s event featured 118 Pony cars. You can believe this when I say it no one likes to spend over 2000 dollars on awards only to take most of them home. So believe me you weren’t the only one disappointed that day, I wasn’t exactly doing back flips.
The May 30, 2008 show has been advertised since May 13th, 2007, and it does include a Muscle Car Shootout as seen at many of our other events throughout the year, so if you wish, I invite you to come back next year and find out what our shows are really all about, if not then so be it. But be sure to have ALL the facts before you run a show in the ground next time.
Thank you to the guys who had all the nice things to say about our events, you know the work we put into them to make them successful and how hard Troy and myself work to make them standout above many others. The Nationals will be NO EXCEPTION it will be awesome once it takes off, we scheduled it with a season ending “Ghetto cruise-in” this year because we really want everyone to have a few laughs before shutting it down for the year, Belly laughs and aching jaws are guaranteed at that event, you won’t believe some of the stuff we have planned! See you at the shows

[TW8183Z28]

The really Funny thing! I spoke with SEVERAL people yesterday who attended the May 12 show. NO ONE remembers a x-ram car being there. As most Camaro owners know a x-ram car is a pretty memorable thing, funny how no one remembers yours, could it be you really didn't attend the show, if I had to bet, I would say that was the case. And I just checked the attendance list and there were only 5 more Mustangs than Camaro's and in fact there were 9 more Camaro's than Pontiac's. Of the 16 cars in the USMCF display 4 of them were Chevelle's. I was just wondering, do you really know what you are talking about ---- never mind, I got this one, NO!!!!!!!!! Again next time before you throw a club or someone you don't know under the bus, get your facts straight.

[69L78]

Tom, What is your problem....you talk about me getting the facts straight, well here are the facts, I was there with my Burgundy X-Ram JL8 and in fact the guy with the AACA Senior awarded Olds invited me to come back to a show that was scheduled the same weekend of the GM Natl's. Now if you still want to make that bet, just let me know.

[TW8183Z28]

Now that I have seen your name yes you were there. I
apologize for that, I didn't look at your name until now (I didn't realize I could - I'm Still new to the site) and I also know you won first place in your class but what I don't understand why you would say the things you did about the show. The show although small was not that bad. Sure we all wish the car would have the 150 - 200 cars we expected, and believe me I would love to have all of them be concourse cars.

I mean I don't understand why you were "sooooo disappointed that you would never go back." If there was a problem with the event, you should have come to either Troy or myself about it, we even announce that during the awards ceremony, but for you to go onto a public website and post things like that makes us look bad. We are ALWAYS wiling to listen to concerns participants have at our events, but to be blindsided like this is completely off the charts. Unfortunately I am not a mind reader and if a participant has a problem, I can't know about it if you don't tell me.

But getting back to the original issue, it was not a muscle car show, and maybe that is something you didn't understand. I can and will promise you give it another chance you will not be sorry. The event next year has the 1969 Camaro as the feature car and we will be having two special displays of Boss Mustangs and AAR Cuda's as well.

[69L78]

Tom, Don't take this so personally, I will never attend the GM Natl's on a Friday ever again either but I will attend on Sat, just my opinion.

[TW8183Z28]

I can understand the Friday thing myself, and the Saturday thing, I am not sure about. COSTS WAY to much now. I guess if I needed parts thats one thing. But to go for the show, NAH I'll put my money in my pocket and attend MANY other shows somewhere else for that cost. My Camaro has gone as far as it will go with the ACA anyway. But what they do is a good thing, I'll just stop by and say hi as I pass out flyers.