69 COPO Camaro Coil Spring.......code #'s ????????

[CamarosRus]

I see where RICKS Camaro parts has a long list of 69 Camaro coil springs with misc codes (i.e. YA).
There is another chart adjustment weights for misc options (???)

After having my 69 X-11 COPO clone sit too low and now a tad high, I'm still searching for "correct" spring.

My car has T-400 trans, power steering, power brakes, repop curved neck radiator, headers, no smog, iron heads, 163 intake, etc etc

Can anybody with knowledge of this subject,please help or direct me to someone who does. I would like to make the third set of coils the last set

FYI, the rear has HeartBeat City repop leafs which appear good.

The car has been driven a good 1000 miles so there was NO significant settling..........



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/CamarosRus/Chucks%2069%20Camaro%20COPO%20Clone/DSCF0545.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/CamarosRus/Chucks%2069%20Camaro%20COPO%20Clone/HRPT0c.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/CamarosRus/Chucks%2069%20Camaro%20COPO%20Clone/HRPT8B2005.jpg

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Looks like Gobi Beige http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[69L72RS]

Find the spec for the "HQ" GM spring.

[CamarosRus]

RICK's catalog does not show a HQ spring..........

With ALL the COPO knowledge at this web site, does not someone have knowledge of correct spring code and/or who sells the correct part.........

Thanks

[Hotrodpaul]

Chuck, my 69 20K mile L-78 Camaro had YP code springs and a perfect ride height. I still have them with the original tags. I would think the ride height would be the same for a 427 COPO as the engine is outfitted basically the same. Do you have any 2nd gen parts to trade????

Paul

[Hotrodpaul]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/Hotrodpaul86/DSCN3083.jpg

Ride height with YP front springs.

Paul

[CamarosRus]

YP springs in Rick's Chart show 181-262 added weight.
I obviously dont understand these charts.

Chart in RICK's catalog (page 69) shows
L-34 add 209 lbs
L-78 add 133 lbs
other than intake where is diff between L-34 and L-78 ???
M-40 add 44 lbs
J-50 add 9 lbs Power Brakes
N-40 add 40 lbs Power Steering
T-60 add 6 lbs HD Battery
V-01 add 7 lbs HD Radiator

I repeat my above X-11 "COPO" has Headers, No Smog, but otherwise very similar top a REAL COPO!!!!!!!!!!

[CamarosRus]

Paul, Curious why you changed springs in your (sold) L-78 if you were happy with height/look?????

I would be willing to buy/trade BUT I need to know I will be happy. I am tired of spending money on parts and labor..

Also my car has cowl hood, not SS hood (weight ????)

[Hotrodpaul]

I went to L-89 Aluminum heads and found the proper NOS YM code springs on ebay. The heads took about 80-90 pounds off the front end. I would think the SS hood and cowl hood would be approximately the same weight.

Paul

[Unreal]

Chuck,
You have an interesting way of asking for help. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[nuch_ss396]

[ QUOTE ]
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/Hotrodpaul86/DSCN3083.jpg

Ride height with YP front springs.

Paul

[/ QUOTE ]

Paul,

That ride height is sweet - and perfect!

Now I'm confused though. You mentioned YP springs on this
car, then you mentioned L/89 heads later..... Did I miss
something? Does this Camaro have iron, or aluminum heads?
And what about those NOS springs? Are they in this car now?

Nuch

[nuch_ss396]

You know, this issue has been debated numerous times here.

I looked at that front coil spring calculator last year,
but it seemed that there were so many variables to consider.

Does anyone here know, or have a reference chart regarding
all the front coil springs that were made for the '69 Camaro?
Do any members here have original springs that they
can use to verify tag codes?

I would assume that for big block, there are the determining
factors:

1 - L/35 and L/35
2 - Muncie or THM400
3 - L/78 or L/89
4 - A/C ( L/34 & L/35 only )
5 - 3 or 4-core radiator
6 - hardtop or convertible

As all BB Camaro's had SMOG and cast iron exhaust manifolds,
that can't be a factor. Nor can power brakes as that was
mandated. Would P/S add significant weight to require a
different spring pressure?

Can springs be clipped to reduce the ride height to a "desired"
height? If so, is there a formula ( other than try-it )?
Lastly, what exactly is the proper ride height? Paul's
Blue SS looks perfect to me. Got a ride height for us Paul?

Nuch

[nuch_ss396]

One more thought for the moderators. Perhaps we should start
a "sticky thread" for front coil springs. It sure would be
helpful to know what others owners have used for their
particular applications, and where they got their particular
springs.

Can unsprung height be used as a determining factor for used
springs? I know that when I source new springs for a particular
manufacturing project, unsprung height is a factor. Any thoughts http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Nuch

[Hotrodpaul]

Here is a shot of the car with L-89 Aluminum heads and NOS YM code front springs. The car was an original L-78, I added the Aluminum heads to save some weight. Last November, I sold the car due to a Divorce in November to a member on this site. To me, it looked perfect.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/Hotrodpaul86/DSCN4489.jpg

Paul

[CamarosRus]

Paul, I am still interetsed in buying/trading for your YP springs......I just need more confidence these would be correct for MY "COPO" situation......versus another code lettered spring....
I suppose I will call Eaton Detroit, Ricks or "somebody" soon and ask for advice???????????

[CamarosRus]

still "reaching out" looking for knowledgeable specific info for correct front coil spring to replicate original on my COPO (L-72) clone with M-40..........

Thanks

[nuch_ss396]

Chuck,

Check out the CRG forum as a very similar thread is there.

CRG thread (http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=2684.0)

Nuch

[CamarosRus]

THANKS very much......I have had conversations with sales mgr at Rick's and Eaton. I will add my comments....

I really need to hear from shops/users such as Brian, Larry C to find out WHAT to order , WHAT works............

Thanks,