COPO block,bare heads, and crank,KB pistons,rings

[agtw31]

3963512 standard 4 bolt block

date-H-1-8

on front of block is T112TLM and 195708891(vin#?)

bare 3919840 heads
dates: D-4-8 and H-1-8(?)

crank is still sitting in plastic NAPA bag,tag is marked (.010/.020)

KB pistons new in box standard bore with Hastings rings

we could not find the rods,owner can't remember what happened to them.maybe he'll find them later.

block and heads havent moved in 20 years,have been in a heated garage sitting on wood,coverred in cobwebs.

i spent a couple hours in this guy's garage ,and the light wasnt the greatest but i did the best i could with the numbers.

price is $5000 or best offer for everything here

if you wish to contact the owner,his phone number is

614-876-0320,his name is Ted

[69LM1]

I don't think that is a COPO block, the two hits I get on that suffix is either:

1.Code Year CID Vehicle HP RPO Trans Carb Comments
LM 69 427 Corvette 390 L-36 4-Spd 4-Brl

or

2.Code Year CID Vehicle HP RPO Trans Carb Comments
TLM 72 402 Truck 210 L-47 TH-400 4-Brl C 10 & C 20, A.I.R.

I *think* all of the COPO blocks were M* blocks.

[427.060]

Being a 512 block rules out the 402.
James

[COPO]

I think it is out of a 69 Corvette. I think the 3rd digit of your VIN is the letter "S" not the number "5".

[Mr70]

That's what I think too,as only the 69 vettes starting VIN sequencing with 700001.

[427king]

The second T in the engine suffix date is a number [0-9]not a letter [T],ill take a lucky guess and say its a 1 first, if not a 7... also it is a 2 bolt,unless it is a factory 4 bolt with a 2 bolt engine code,which is very very remotely possible.

[agtw31]

i am only going by what the guy told me,im sure you guys know more than me.

[img=http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3426/copoblockkk1.th.jpg] (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=copoblockkk1.jpg)

[agtw31]

[img=http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4610/copoheads2vf2.th.jpg] (http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=copoheads2vf2.jpg)

[427king]

Thats a four bolt main, which is a good thing.

[agtw31]

http://i18.tinypic.com/6y52onm.jpg

http://i19.tinypic.com/815p6ib.jpg

http://i12.tinypic.com/82cntc3.jpg

[agtw31]

i should have know it was a vette motor when he showed me this

http://i8.tinypic.com/6ujqkc0.jpg

[Fast67VelleN2O]

The carbs look NOS, nice, but that still wouldnt be correct for 69 390 horse, which was a Q Jet motor

[MosportGreen66]

[ QUOTE ]
The carbs look NOS, nice, but that still wouldnt be correct for 69 390 horse, which was a Q Jet motor

[/ QUOTE ]

The 400 tri power was a 390 2 bolt main block with the tri powers in the trunk from the factory. The tri powers were dealer installed.

[Fast67VelleN2O]

So every 400 horse Corvette in the world was shipped with a 390 horse Q jet motor, and the dealer installed a Tripower on it? I guess they retamped or stamped the engine while they were at it?

[Fast67VelleN2O]

69 Corvette 390 Horse engine stamps: LL, LM, MH, MI
400 Horse stamps: LN, LQ, MJ, MK

Sorry i just can't buy that they were dealer installed.

[JIM]

Where the trunk on a 68 or 69 Corvette??? just curious !!!!
Jim

[427.060]

Now on Ebay. Only $3000 shipping charges.
James

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-390-...1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-390-Horse-427-Corvette-engine_W0QQitemZ230193935615QQihZ013QQcategoryZ336 15QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

[SuperNovaSS]

$3000 for shipping!!!! It should cost $300-$700 through most freight places.

[69LM1]

What's up with the $3,000 "flat shipping charge" seems deceptive to me. First it was a "copo" block, and now this.
Sorry if this offends, but this is not how business should be done in my opinion. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[John Brown]

Could I pick it up and save the shipping?? I'd drive a long ways to save 3 G's, especially if the tripower was included in that no reserve auction.

Where's the e-bay pictures anyway?? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Come on Andrew, we wanna see this stuff sell. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

[jerry j]

There are No Aug. 1968 512 castings, it would be a 270 casting.

[agtw31]

come on now,are you guys really that slow?

let me put it this way:

add 3 grand to your bid,bidding starts at a buck.

i have a strong feeling the auction will be cancelled before the end anyway.

ebay allows CD sellers to sell CD's on ebay for one cent,but charge $10 to ship,so what's the problem??

[427king]

[ QUOTE ]
There are No Aug. 1968 512 castings, it would be a 270 casting

[/ QUOTE ] I also have a AUG 68 512,but not sure how early. The vin listed in this ad is for a NOV 68,not a NOV 69 car also,so that throws out the idea of it being a H9 looking like an H8 .

[agtw31]

like i said before,it was not real bright there,and i might be off on some digits.

[SuperNovaSS]

How do mistake 270 for 512? Ebay will remove you listing if the shipping charge is unreasonable, read the rules. If you are going to sell something, know the facts and be willing to answer questions.


Jason



Jason

[agtw31]

[ QUOTE ]
How do mistake 270 for 512? Ebay will remove you listing if the shipping charge is unreasonable, read the rules. If you are going to sell something, know the facts and be willing to answer questions.


Jason



Jason

[/ QUOTE ]

i put the owner's name and number in the listing for you to call if you have any questions.

why are you asking me anything,when all you have to do is make a simple phone call?? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[427.060]

[ QUOTE ]
come on now,are you guys really that slow?

let me put it this way:

add 3 grand to your bid,bidding starts at a buck.

i have a strong feeling the auction will be cancelled before the end anyway.

ebay allows CD sellers to sell CD's on ebay for one cent,but charge $10 to ship,so what's the problem??

[/ QUOTE ]


The problem is that is against Ebay rules. It's called circumventing fees. What would you do if someone local won the auction and wanted to pick the parts up? NOT COOL
James

[agtw31]

what im doing is called MARKETING A PRODUCT.

i cant believe i have to explain this,i guess some people don't get it.

[MosportGreen66]

Ha. Valid point on the trunk in the Vette... What I was implying was that it was a factory/dealer upgrade on the platform of the 390hp 427.

[69LM1]

[ QUOTE ]
what im doing is called MARKETING A PRODUCT.

i cant believe i have to explain this,i guess some people don't get it.

[/ QUOTE ]

No, it's not "marketing", it's "scamming". You are hoping that someone does not notice the extreme THREE THOUSAND DOLLAR shipping charge and you can then extort, umm I mean, demand that they follow through with the auction.

Marketing would be talking up the block, and building a picture of what it could be.

Sorry man, I agree with the above post, this aint cool.

[69LM1]

[ QUOTE ]
like i said before,it was not real bright there,and i might be off on some digits.

[/ QUOTE ]

Then don't you think you should be sure BEFORE you list it at auction with a THREE THOUSAND DOLLAR shipping charge?
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[427.060]

I don't buy the "marketing a product" thing. Just look at all the negative comments on this site. Here, only a few people have seen the auction. Imagine the other thousands of people that saw the auction before Ebay ended it. The ones that saw the shipping fees said to themselves "this guy is nuts" and close the auction. If you just wanted to use the auction for exposure, it should have been listed with a reasonable shipping charge and a reserve.
James

[SuperNovaSS]

He also listed a 69 W30 project under "salvage parts cars", to save the listing fee and ended the auction early. Talk about navigating fees. Ebay is a business and deserves to earn their share. Play by the rules.

Jason

[agtw31]

i am given the opportunity by ebay to list an auction as i see fit.i also pay the fees associated with the listing.
nobody here did that.
if you don't agree,contact ebay,instead of crying like a bunch of 6th graders that didnt get the same flavor ice cream somebody else got.

there was no scam,i think some of you are just a little paranoid.
it'd kind of hard to run a scam when i use my real name on the internet,including this board. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
i don't see too many people doing that here,actually.i wonder why? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

as i said before,if youre interested in the stuff,call the owner,instead of wasting bandwidth.

[427king]

You have to give Andy this. 1] He is a paid member listing parts 2] He did post pics and a contact # 3] He did first offer it to members with a price and not just an ebay link for members to bid on against everyone else .. If you dont like the shipping price call the contact person and see if its a misprint or if you can pick it up etc..

[69LM1]

[ QUOTE ]
You have to give Andy this. 1] He is a paid member listing parts 2] He did post pics and a contact # 3] He did first offer it to members with a price and not just an ebay link for members to bid on against everyone else .. If you dont like the shipping price call the contact person and see if its a misprint or if you can pick it up etc..

[/ QUOTE ]

What does that have to do with anything?

1. He listed it as a COPO block, without making sure it WAS a COPO block.

2. By his own admission, he did not bring a light and make sure of his numbers, BUT listed it with a price here. What if someone would have taken him at his word "because he is a member here". We shoud hold ourselves to a higher standard!

3. Trying to "Fool" someone with a 3,000 shipping charge is just wrong, not matter how you try and "market" it. Period. So, no, I don't feel like he deserves any slack.

Even know, instead of being a man and admitting that he is wrong, he is blaming everyone else.

[Charley Lillard]

Mossport...You are a Vette guy. How can you think the tri-power was in the trunk ? The 400 hp engine even has a different code .

[427king]

Charlie I think thats because on the tank stickers ive seen it says 390HP and then down on the bottom it makes a reference to 400HP "conversion" ..i think alot of people think that meant it was added after the factory since it references 2 motors in a way on the stickers, when it was just some type of factory notation .

[agtw31]

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Even know, instead of being a man and admitting that he is wrong, he is blaming everyone else.

[/ QUOTE ]

wrong about what? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

blaming who? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

i put an ad on here for some 427 stuff with the part numbers,even put the contact info for the owner.

what's so hard about picking up a phone?
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
i guess typing on a keyboard is easier. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

[69LM1]

[ QUOTE ]

wrong about what? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Wrong about the block being a COPO, but listing it as such, and then not even taking the time to check the numbers, or bring a light to make sure of what you were listing.... for a start. Then it was a vette tri power, but nope, suffix is wrong. Then it was "Just going by what the guy told me".


[ QUOTE ]

blaming who? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[/ QUOTE ]
Everyone else for calling you on it:

1. "come on now,are you guys really that slow?"
2. "what im doing is called MARKETING A PRODUCT"
3. "i cant believe i have to explain this,i guess some people don't get it."

[ QUOTE ]
what's so hard about picking up a phone?
I guess typing on a keyboard is easier.

[/ QUOTE ]

For starters, YOU listed the block here. Then several people tried to tell you that the listing was wrong, nicely. THEN you listed the block on ebay, in what I would call, a deceptive manner. After all of that, you admit that you were unsure of any of the numbers, due to low lighting.

All I think anyone here is trying to say is that, yep, we all make mistakes, but listing the block with a 3k shipping charge hidden in the auction was a bit cheesey.

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