69 Z Stripes

[olredalert]

------Hey guys,,,Does anyone have or can anyone point me toward some pics of original paint 69 Zs. I am specificly looking for any pics of the fade of the stripe under the trunk lid and hood areas. Want to have my painter roughly duplicate the crudeness if you will. Also wouldnt mind a good close-up of the stripe up against the rear window of a non-vinyl 69 Z. This would be the later dimension version stripe. Thanks in advance for any help!!!.........Bill S

[Gary L]

I have some pictures. I need to email them. I just went thru the same thing. However the stencil kit was not very good and I have to redo below the rear glass. Look at the links in this thread over at TC.http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=120737

[Salvatore]

If you can get a link to Kenny Pascoes old green survivor Z you can check out the stripes there.

[olredalert]

------Thanks guys!!!,,,I have tried to find Pascoes car to no avail. Hope someone else comes up with a few shots. Was it in members rides??? Cant find it there, but maybe I missed it......Bill S

[DarrenX33]

Bill- Check my photo gallery. (http://www.yenko.net/photos/showgallery.php/cat/500/ppuser/682) KPs car and another are there.

[m22mike]

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------Hey guys,,,Does anyone have or can anyone point me toward some pics of original paint 69 Zs. I am specificly looking for any pics of the fade of the stripe under the trunk lid and hood areas. Want to have my painter roughly duplicate the crudeness if you will. Also wouldnt mind a good close-up of the stripe up against the rear window of a non-vinyl 69 Z. This would be the later dimension version stripe. Thanks in advance for any help!!!.........Bill S

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Bill
Sorry I don't have any pic's for you. I was looking at Hoopers book " The 69 Camaro ref book" There are a few B&W shots in there showing the stripe overspray fade under the trunk lid.
If you keep in mind these stripes were masked then painted with the hood and trink closed, so they could be very unsightly.
As far as the rear stripe on a 69. It should be 5/8" from the rear trim, vinyl top trim or rear window trim. By the way the diamension given in the Assy. manual at the rear trim is wrong.
There are alot of old threads over at CRG and Team Camaro too, if you want to do some searching.

Mike

[DarrenX33]

Here are some. I am sure there are plenty more examples out there.

http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/533/medium/Z38.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/536/z18.jpg

[olredalert]

-----Thanks Darren and Mike. Darren,,, I guess the one thing I could take away from your two pics is that the cowl appears to have been taped off, and the mask tended to lean one way or the other over the edge. Is that a recurring theme???......Bill S

[m22mike]

Bill
I looked through a bunch of old print photos I had and found a few original 69Z's.
It looks like the rear stripes ended with a overspray pattern.
However, as in the pic's posted here I believe the front cowl was taped off at the bottom edge.

Mike

[Charley Lillard]

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[Charley Lillard]

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[m22mike]

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It is interesting to note on this Orange car, the white paint on the cowl area. I have seen several Camaros like this. They got a little carried away with the white paint that day.
Charley was that a LA or NOR car ?
Mike

PS oh yea, cowl to hood seal is upside down, must be that cowl induction seal guy.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[olredalert]

------Thanks Charley! I noticed that one end of the tape line was not sealed down and consequently had a bit of spray get behind it. Might duplicate that. I guess I still dont understand the cowl painting process yet. Why would the factory take the extra time with what would amount to an extra step to paint the area under the cowl stripe color??? I know you guys can straighten me out though.........Bill S

[m22mike]

Bill
Painting the dark cowl area for white strips cars was just what they did. It is rare to see white paint past the rubber on the cowl panel though.
A friend of mine had a original paint Green 68Z with stripe deleate, and the whole upper cowl was painted white on the line B4 they realized stripes were to be deleated, made for alot of Q's on cruise nights.
If you have never read this http://www.camaros.org/assemblyprocess.shtml from the Camaro Research Group http://www.camaros.org/index.shtml
It is a great read. It gives alot of info on what went on between Fisher body and GM and what was involved to put a car together.
Should be a must read for all GM guys. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif
Tell us more about this ZEE.

Mike

Here is another shot of the rear stripe on a 69Z around the trunk lip with overspray. Also stripes at the front lip on the hood and header panel could have shown overspray.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/zSTRIPE.jpg

[Charley Lillard]

M22Mike...It is a 04C X77 Norwood car. The cowl to hood seal is on right, just not on all the way.

[camarojoe]

The top of the cowl was painted white so when you looked down through the vent slots in the cowl panel, it matched the stripes... I believe the same thing was done with black stripes as well... and its actually VERY common for the paint to extend past the hood to cowl seal, in fact, I think just about every original paint 69 Z I've ever seen has some evidence of this... I've even seen it sprayed on so heavy that they got runs of white paint extending down the firewall towards the heater box. Another thing I've seen is that it seems they only used one strip of 3/4" masking tape to end the stripes, with not much (if any) mask below that... so some overspray is sometimes seen on the other side of the tape... you can sorta see evidence of that in the first pic of the fathom green car Darren posted. (driver's side stripe) You can also see white paint beyond the rubber seal on both sides of that car...looks like even the body tag got some white paint on it. I wish I had some pics of the fathom green 69 Z the Supercar Workshop did a few years ago... they duplicated these type of stripe flaws perfectly.

[olredalert]

------Thanks Mike and Joe,,,Mike,,,Thats just the pic I want to show my painter. Z is an unusual one in that it is white with orange houndstooth interior. All original drivetrain with most all the good Z options. Im hoping to have it for spring Chevy-Vettefest. Thats becoming such a great show for 1st time out of the box. Its still in paint shop hell but will be back in my control very soon for re-assembly.........Bill S