69 BB MARO ROTISSERIE RESTO

[chevycopo]

I am doing a complete nut & bolt restoration on my 69 Camaro. Original auto BB car, Olympic Gold with Green, 723 I think, interior. I definitely do not like the color combination and want to paint it Lemans Blue/black int. The original seats are in very good condtion except for being soaked in mice piss so I will have to replace them anyway. My buddies have mixed emotions. Some say definitely ORIGINAL-worth more, others say paint it what you like. I will have well over 40k invested when this is done.I would appreciate some feedback. Please and thank you. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[MosportGreen66]

as ugly as it is, your car represents the styles and options of the time period. I say leave it as is. If you're going to change something, maybe replace the green interior with black. Olympic Gold is a great color.

[m22mike]

Keep the colors, The car will look alot different to you with a killer flat paint job and new guts.
JMO.
Mike

[chevycopo]

I might be able to live with Oly Gold /Black int. The other thing I forgot to mention, its a t 400 on the column and I'm thinking doing a 4 or 5 speed. Any thoughts on that?
Thank you, http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[Mr70]

Honestly,if you're really that concerned about the financial return,I would sell it right now as is and find another car/color/options you prefer for the long run.
Otherwise I would restore it just as the factory built it and take pride in it,as I like your color combo/options.

[chevycopo]

I might be able to live with Black interior. What do ya think?
Thanks, http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[chevycopo]

Mike,
I missed the "FLAT" paint job? Flat?

[chevycopo]

Mr70,
Ok, so far 3 for original. Wow. Got me thinking http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Thank you

[novarichie]

imo the gold/green combo is no going to get it,i repeat,not going to get it.blue with black guts,a tko 600 5 speed will get it done, again just my opinion..

[chevycopo]

I appreciate your opinion. Now its 3 to 1
Thank you, http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Keep it stock, including the green gut and TH400 on the tree. This way, no explanations needed when you're done.

[1969l78]

I love the gold exterior, the green inside is alittle diffrent but still cool, maybe due a black interior, that would look sharp.

[CanadianPoncho]

That's not as bad as my 69 Pontiac- Mayfair Maize exterior, medium green interior!
Todd

[BARRY]

HI I HAD COPO THAT WAY YOU WILL REGRET CHANGING IT THE GREEN IS SO DARK EVERY ONE THOUGHT IT IS BLACK

[chevycopo]

Thanks Marlin, I'll be thinkin http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[chevycopo]

I suppose your right.
Thanks Todd http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[mockingbird812]

Any car restored well looks good to me. That color combo of yours is quite an attention getter. Keep it as is and let the fellow who buys it off of you make the change - it would not be hard to do. Leave the column shifter alone and there are NO stories. I assure you, you will get alot of buzz at the 1st car show you go to. Now find out who the 1st owner was and get the low down on why he/she ordered it that way!

Have fun. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[chevycopo]

I just can't see it but I will probably go with the "majority" opinion. It is a desirable vehicle.
Maybe I should put her back like she came. And I have brand new rebuilt M20 with correct shifter!
Thank you, http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[chevycopo]

Sam,
I bought it 8 yrs ago from a guy who had it since 1983.
How could I possibly find the original owner??
Thank you, http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[Chateau Slate 66]

If it is for resale, stay with the originals. If it is for you, build it the way you like.

[camarojoe]

No brainer. Gold with green guts... That combo sounds cool to me actually. Do this one right, and keep it stock...I'd try to de-mouse piss the original seats too, as they will look alot better than repro covers. I love the dark green standard vinyl in a 69. Black interior is boring with a capitol B.

[1969l78]

Talk to the guy you bought it from and see if he can give you info on who he bought it from, maybe he has a number for the last owner, can not hurt to ask. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[John]

...the original owner probably DID NOT ORDER the car....they probably walked into the dealership
...saw a big block camaro with a big discount
....and because they were COLOR BLIND...thought the car was TAN WITH BROWN INTERIOR...
.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

...just kidding....on the other hand ....if you sell the car as it is and put with that amount ..what you would spend on the restoration....you could buy a nice finished car and drive it next spring.....just a thought http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[427.060]

Do you want a car just like half the others out there or do you want something a little different? You can go to any car show and see all the blue/black cars you want. How often do you see a gold/green car? Keep it original.
James

[68l30]

I've got that basic color combo on a 68..Ash gold with a Ivy gold interior...You will love the combo once finished. I can't tell you how many people will enjoy it at the shows .... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif


Steve

[TDW]

Heres another vote for original colors. I like gold.

[Rick Cell]

I remember a Copo running around Toronto in that color it wasn"t that bad looking but if you cannot live with the colors I would sell the car before you start the resto and try to find something you can live with. If you hate it now you will hate it when its done.

[NovaMob03]

Paint the tail panel black, install a Hurst Dual Gate shifter, buy some Yenko stripes/ badges. Maybe you'll be the 1st to do a OG tribute/recreation. They bring pretty good $$ at the auctions and you can have some fun with it http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[jbsides]

For your decision making reference, here is how our turned out...

[jbsides]

If I can get a pic to stick...

[novarichie]

how about the exterior green to match the interior,think about

[Ngtflyr]

I've had an Olympic Gold Chevelle, love the color now and it's not the normal red, blue, black, yellow etc color you see ALL the time. I've had a Column Shift LS6, again, not the normal thing, it got lots of comments. I vote for keeping it original, I'm not a big fan of green interiors, but I am a big fan of original cars. My camaro convertible was dover white, not a fan of white cars, but I am really glad I kept it original, it was too original to change the color, which I came close to doing, glad I didn't.

It's different, thats for sure. If you get tired of it, you will get more bucks for it's originality and you can use the extra cash on something you like. Of course it's your car and you can and will do what you want to.

[indyjps]

keep it original and finish it or sell it and get a car/color combo you like. if anything do a black int, stick with the gold paint.

[bkhpah]

A well done restoration, regardless of the color combination will be a stunning car. Most people thought that Burnished Brown and colors like Olympic Gold are unpopular. This is just not true. When done right they are quite beautiful and refreshing in a sea of the more commonly accepted colors. We are in the middle of a Royal Plum 67 Yenko, a color not seem much, and a Corvette Bronze 68 Yenko. Both highly unusual I would think. We will soon be starting a very rare Champage SS396/375 Camaro. One that I think will really be a stunner. If you keep it original, the car will speak for itself..BKH

[Schonyenko2]

What's the X code on the car? If it was a X66 the tailpan could be blacked out, along with a strip along the rockers. Olympic gold with those accents would be a good combo. And yes, I'd leave that interior green. Base coat clear coat make those old colors much better.

[Nova Jed]

I agree with the purists. Gold and green.

[1970Bluel78]

I would change to Black interior. This story makes me think of an old lady that use to come in to the Esso station I worked at around 1971 or so. Brand new Cutlass,Copper in color with a piss green interior. I can remember evrybody going to look at it. Hard to believe you could even order it that way

[Johnny Horsepower]

original colors. cool and different. Tranny change and color change will decrease the value by the cost to return to correct ie. alot. Preserve history or sell it and get a dynacorn, crate motor, richmond 6sp and go nuts.

my opinion anyway

good luck http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Jonesy]

Original colors Gold/Green with the column shift. Now thats something different for once. I like it!

[68l30]

[ QUOTE ]
... with a piss green interior.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think I'd see a doc about that asap...... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif


Steve

[Justbad Joe]

[ QUOTE ]
how about the exterior green to match the interior,think about

[/ QUOTE ]
How about frost green/green guts with black Z28 stripes? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Joe

[olredalert]

-----I would do the car the original color outside and if you cant stand the inside color it is the cheapest of the two to change later when the car is worth that gazillion dollars. Matter of fact get a whole other set of seats and save the originals for the purist buyer. You will like the gold..........Bill S

[Paul_S]

Keep the stock colors. They work and they're different than most other cars out there. It'll stand-out in a good way. Try to save as much of the original interior parts as possible. You'll love it when it's done then you can find a blue car to restore and park next to it. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Salvatore]

[ QUOTE ]
I might be able to live with Oly Gold /Black int. The other thing I forgot to mention, its a t 400 on the column and I'm thinking doing a 4 or 5 speed. Any thoughts on that?
Thank you, http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[/ QUOTE ]Mike, If you want to do all these changes to an original BB camaro just go get a nice 6 cylinder/307 car and do these changes. Gold with DG interior is great color combo. I would not change an original BB cars colors, I would get another car to do or sell the one you have for a different color combo. In the old days that color combo would not be real popular with people. But orange, plum crazy and some of the Yenko Deuce colors were NOT real popular around here either. Look at BBBenny's silver COPO/blue interior I love that combo because of the lite blue interior. In 69 most people would have orderd a black or red interior with silver but not the guy who owned that car originally. Ask John Karvonen if he would have changed the color of his brown 69 Z's interior from DG to black again. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif His car is an extremely nice and well restored 69 Z. JMO http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[chevycopo]

JMO & All,
I will eventually get around to replying and thanking all of you individually, just don't have time at the moment.
Thank you All for your opinions which I value. I have had enough feedback to determine that I don't want to try and change history! If you think about it, there is alot to said about the history of these 40 yr old muscle cars. So....She will be restored the way she came into this world; a plain Jane on the outside http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif, a bit different, maybe ugly to some http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif maybe beautiful to others but definitely original to the bone except a little better! I can't believe some of the factory welding?? especially on the sub frame. Oly Gold w/Green guts & t400 on the tree!
I'm sure she will grow on me. She will have to, I won't have any choice. Kinda like being married. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif Did I really say that? I'll send a pic or two in when shes done. Have a good weekend everyone.

[ORIGLS6]

[ QUOTE ]
Look at BBBenny's silver COPO/blue interior I love that combo because of the lite blue interior. In 69 most people would have ordered a black or red interior with silver but not the guy who owned that car originally. Ask John Karvonen if he would have changed the color of his brown 69 Z's interior from DG to black again. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif His car is an extremely nice and well restored 69 Z. JMO http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

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http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Any and every change you make to the car will eventually create an issue you probably don't want to deal with. Oly Gold with Dark Green guts sounds mighty fine to me.

[169indy]

Solid GOLD!

Local Seattle area GOLD/Green interior 69 396/375 Frame off car.
The quality of the car speaks much louder that any aversion to the combination of colors!
http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/500/Gold_Camaro_396.jpg

Olympic RULES!

Jim

[bulletpruf]

Another vote for Gold/Green. It it was a 6 cyl or 307 car, do what you want, but an original BB car should stay original. It will stand out in a sea of blue/black or red/black Camaros.

scott

[John]

...How about....keeping the original Gold exterior and original green interior.....
...BUT......add a "stinger" hood with Black motion/yenko "stinger"...and paint the tail panel Black.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif
....The unique original color will really set this car off with these 2 additions http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[chevycopo]

how do I find a pic of BBBenny's car?
Thanks, http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[chevycopo]

Jim,
Nice looking! Anymore pics around on this car?
Thank you, http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[chevycopo]

John,
Good idea for a day that I want it to have some piZaZZ. I wouldn't mind having a 2nd hood, can always change back. I know the stinger hood, but not familiar with Black motion/yenko "stinger". Does this involve any painting on the rear deck lid? I think blacking out the rear tail panel would look good. Did COPO cars have black tail panels?
Thank you, http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[chevycopo]

Scott,
Thanks for your opinion. By the way, you have a nice collection there! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[chevycopo]

Your right.
Oly Gold with Dark Green guts sounding better to me everyday. I think I've had a change of heart.
Thank you, http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[chevycopo]

I like your idea. I can find a blue one anywhere.
Maybe I will down the road but for now, Different is better.
I think I'm getting it! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[chevycopo]

Joe,
I thought about that too. Now I'm convinced to stay original just for History sake.
Thanks for your opinion. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[chevycopo]

I'm going with it!
Thanks, http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[chevycopo]

"PRESERVE HISTORY" IT IS!!
Thank you for the opinion. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[chevycopo]

Me too.
Thanks Jed. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[chevycopo]

BKH,
You are absolutely right. Thank you for your opinion. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[chevycopo]

Dave,
Its staying original. Thanks for your opinion. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[kwhizz]

[ QUOTE ]
how do I find a pic of BBBenny's car?
Thanks, http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Nova Nat's 07

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a251/kwhizz/Nova%20Nats%2007/DSC06392.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a251/kwhizz/Nova%20Nats%2007/DSC06393.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a251/kwhizz/Nova%20Nats%2007/DSC06394.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a251/kwhizz/Nova%20Nats%2007/DSC06395.jpg


Ken http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[olredalert]

-----Be thankful it doesnt have a green vinyl top!!!!!......Bill S

[427TJ]

[ QUOTE ]
Solid GOLD!

Local Seattle area GOLD/Green interior 69 396/375 Frame off car.
The quality of the car speaks much louder that any aversion to the combination of colors!
http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/500/Gold_Camaro_396.jpg

Olympic RULES!

Jim

[/ QUOTE ]

Here's a few pix I took of the local Oly Gold/greet guts '69 L78.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/PNWCC%2006/AAAMisc4.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/PNWCC%2006/AAAMisc3.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/PNWCC%2006/AAAMisc1.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/BE427TJ/PNWCC%2006/AAAMisc.jpg

[olredalert]

-----Kind of a coincidence that it comes from Alan GREEN Chevrolet, dont you think???.......Bill S

[1969l78]

That gold is sharp lookin http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Born30YrsLate]

...what...no interior pics?...

[Schonyenko2]

Ken, he wants to see pics of bbbenny's 69 COPO camaro. Cortez silver blue int. I have a 69 SS chevelle like that. Should have the blue SS stripe too. Very cool combo.
But, we do like the nova. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Let me ask again. What, if any is the X code. I'd think you should have the black accents like the one in this pic above. That's sharpe.

[chevycopo]

VERY NICE. SWEET!
Thank you, http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[chevycopo]

I've been looking at the pics for 1/2 an hr. What a difference it makes seeing pics vs visualizing. I think I can live with that combo. Yeah, I'm good with that. I'm kinda starting to like it. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I really appreciate the pics. Shes one fine sixty nine.

[ANDY M]

Link to BBBenny's Feature:
http://www.yenko.net/features/2001/May2001.htm
Sold new right here in Columbus. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[chevycopo]

Yeah, I agree. Kinda grows on ya doesn't it? I bet I haven't seen one in person. If I did I wasn't paying attention. Thankshttp://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[chevycopo]

Ditto.
Be nice but you've done enough.
Thank you again. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[chevycopo]

Very nice, I've never seen a copo with console & gauges.
Nice color combo too. Thank you for the link.
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[HiHorse]

Combo will grow on you, go original

[camarojoe]

Just out of curiosity, are you restoring this car for yourself or to resell?

[bbbenny]

Mike, Just a little of info on my car. Not to loose the subject here. I even have the factory build sheet for my copo, that was built at norwood ohio. Any more questions on my car, we could start on new thread on the copo section? Thanks BBBenny

[Nova Jed]

Not to get off the subject, but bbbenny has two fine rides! I had the pleasure of seeing the copo this past summer at the chevy show at the grove. Just cant find my pictures!???

[Salvatore]

Yea Jed they are 2 fine rides! Probably a little 2 nice for him!!! That stinkin Dutchman. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[Nova Jed]

Get Awt NAW!

[chevycopo]

It already is .
Thanks. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[chevycopo]

Joe,
I plan on keeping this car barring anything unforeseen.
Thats why I decided to do a rotisserie. I paid for it in 1999 and brought it home in 01. Had been sitting in a pole barn since 1983. It was a MICE hotel. I got pics of the last plate (1983)on the car. I can see I will over shoot my budget (doesn't everybody). I wish I knew how to do metal work, my bodyman's killing me. One of my New Years resolutions will be.."Screw Budgets". Just when you think you have thought of everything (on paper even) suprise, suprise, Gomerhttp://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif I may try to upload a couple Before & During pics if anyone is interested.
Thanks http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[chevycopo]

BBBenny,
Sounds good. After this one dies down...I'm having trouble keeping up with this one right now.
Thank you, http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[x Baldwin Motion]

[ QUOTE ]
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif I may try to upload a couple Before & During pics if anyone is interested.
Thanks http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

<font color="green"> What makes you think we'd be interested? </font> http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

<font color="yellow">Bring on the photo show! </font> http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[chevycopo]

Sorry to take so long to respond. Work is too demanding lately. I'm trying (well over an hour now) to upload about 15 "before" pics..each one 50kb or less and I'm having no luck. I'm not good at this. Can anyone tell this Dummy how to upload more than 1 pic at a time?? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Thank you. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[chevycopo]

here's another http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[chevycopo]

and another.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[chevycopo]

uh huh.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[chevycopo]

this is getting old fast. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[chevycopo]

OK...couple more and then I'm off to bed http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[chevycopo]

one more http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[chevycopo]

this is it. ganite http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[chevycopo]

I mean it this time. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[camarojoe]

Maybe it's just me, but that doesn't look like an original big block SS car. Where are the SS emblems, SS hood, etc.? If it's a real SS396 someone did a good job to make it look like a column shift auto base car. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif Looks like most of the original interior would clean up nice though.

[chevycopo]

who said it was a SS 396? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Not me.
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[Nova Jed]

Someone didn't want any remnants of the Olympic Gold! Some of it is barely visible in the door jams by the quarter window seals! Would still be cool restored back to the original colors. What kind of BB is it then?

[camarojoe]

You DID say it was an original BB auto, So if its not an SS396 you're saying it's an original COPO 427 then? And if so, you're thinking of putting a 5 speed in it and painting it blue with black interior? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[parkbrau]

Mike, you posted that it was an X-44 a few years back. What was the axle code?
And if it was a BB car wouldn't it come with Disk brakes? Not drum brakes? I say that because I dont see a disk brake pedal.
Help me out here, i'm learning.

john

[Jonesy]

[ QUOTE ]
I am doing a complete nut &amp; bolt restoration on my 69 Camaro. Original auto BB car, Olympic Gold with Green, 723 I think, interior.

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[camarojoe]

[ QUOTE ]
Mike, you posted that it was an X-44 a few years back. What was the axle code?
And if it was a BB car wouldn't it come with Disk brakes? Not drum brakes? I say that because I dont see a disk brake pedal.
Help me out here, i'm learning.

john

[/ QUOTE ]

Good eye John... I must have looked at that interior shot 4 times and never noticed the lack of the disc brake medallion on the pedal.

So Chevycopo, whats the story on the car?

[camarojoe]

Where'd he go?? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[Nova Jed]

Good ?

[chevycopo]

He's been on vacation, but he will be back asap as work will allow and reply to all the questions. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif